| Feb-14-08 | | tatarch: 22...Kh8 and 23...f6 in a correspondence game? Black's obviously in trouble, but is that really the best they could do? |
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| Feb-14-08 | | think: I believe Black is lost after: 23. ... Kxg7 24. Qg5+ Kh8 25. Qf6+ Kg8 26. Rd3, with either a forced mate or horrible material losses to come. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | think: Also, the position before the last move would be a fun Monday puzzle. The position before move 23 might be puzzle-worthy as well. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | Funicular: Black is lost after Kh8!!!!
Re6 is clearly a better move that leaves black just the exchange down. I can't understand either how these kind of blunders are played in corr chess games. To me Kh8 looks pretty much like a bullet chess move, for only a handful of people on Earth can spot the Rxg7 threat in 1 minute chess. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | banjo: i don't know , but maybe black thought : i'm deadly lost , so give
the winner the beauty .
24.Qxf6 would be a nice monday-puzzle , let's say in a year or two . |
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Feb-14-08
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Black is lost after Kh8!!!!
Re6 is clearly a better move that leaves black just the exchange down. I can't understand either how these kind of blunders are played in corr chess games. To me Kh8 looks pretty much like a bullet chess move, for only a handful of people on Earth can spot the Rxg7 threat in 1 minute chess.> Being an exchange down for nothing is pretty hopeless situation at club level in OTB chess and in correspondence play it is just resignable. After 22...Re6 white can insert also 23.Qg4 which can be even better than immediate 23.Bxe6 which is undoubtedly won for white. And as 22...g6 23.Qh6 (threatening Rg3-g4-h4) 23...Rxe4 24.Rxg6+ hxg6 25.Qxg6 Kh8 26.Qxe4 loses too, 22...Kh8 (unpinning f-Pawn) is quite logical choice. If white would not have found the shot 23.Rxg7, black could have had a chance to survive. Decisive mistake was made before move 22. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | arnaud1959: The game was played in 1985. If it was played in 2005, I'm sure black would check his moves with a computer. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | Samagonka: I like this game - cut and clear. |
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| Feb-14-08 | | drpoundsign: roses are red violets are blue
after kh8 poor pou |
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| Feb-14-08 | | kevin86: White threatens mate in two ways,though it looks like more. Either piece of the battery can be taken,but at the cost of a quick mate. |
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Feb-14-08
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <HonzaCervenka>< Decisive mistake was made before move 22.> Is 21...h6 good enough to save black?
click for larger view |
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Feb-14-18
 | | Phony Benoni: Red is the color o the day, so maybe we could have had The Scarlet Poupinel. |
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| Feb-14-18 | | Amarande: The loss of a whole Queen is pretty much the best Black can do, in fact - 23 ... Kxg7 24 Qg5+ Kh8 25 Qf6+ Kg8 26 Rd3 Rxe4 (else mate on the g-file) 27 Rg3+ Rg4 28 Rxg4+ Qxg4 29 hxg4 (up Queen for Rook) Bc7 (there seems nothing better?) 30 Bc2!! winning the Rook! (Mate in five is threatened and can only be prevented by 30 ... Rd8 31 Qh6 Rd7, after which 32 Bxh7+ Kh8 33 Bf5+ picks it up) |
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| Feb-14-18 | | schnarre: ...Good one Phony Benoni! |
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Feb-14-18
 | | GrahamClayton: <tatarch>22...♔h8 and 23...f6 in a correspondence game? Black's obviously in trouble, but is that really the best they could do? <tatarch>
Maybe Black was playing in a tournament, and moves to several games arrived on the same day. He also might have been in CC time trouble or had family issues that meant he couldn't spend as much time as normal analysing moves. |
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| Feb-14-18 | | ajile: White gets everything he could ever want out of a double e pawn opening. e4 plus f4 plus Nf3 behind the f pawn PLUS the king bishop outside the pawn chain on c4! If you are Black playing into this you deserve to lose IMO. |
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| Feb-14-18 | | paavoh: <I can't understand either how these kind of blunders are played in corr chess games>. This could have taken place in a preliminary group, where players with very different skills/ratings meet. Some times such disasters happen in thematic tournaments too. Or it was due to other reasons stated by <GrahamClayton>, we just do not know. |
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| Feb-14-18 | | morfishine: All of these generalized and banal conjectural excuses as to why Black lost are imminently worthless and hence, pointless. The fact of the matter is Black has the grand total of 1 game in the database which pretty much means his chess ability is limited, to say the least, or he simply sucks as a chess player ***** |
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Feb-14-18
 | | Breunor: Let's take look at what Stockfish says about the 2008 analysis done: <22...Kh8 and 23...f6 in a correspondence game? Black's obviously in trouble, but is that really the best they could do?> According to Stockfish,22 .... Kh8 is best at 2.54. f6 is not best, f6 is mate in 4, f5 is 2.1.
<Is 21...h6 good enough to save black? > Stockfish has the game at 0.41:
21...Kh8 22 Bd5 Ba7 23 Qd2 f6 24 Qb4 Rb8 25 a4 Rfc8 26 Rc3 b5 27 axb5 Qxb5 28 Qxd6 Q e2. 21.... h6 is 1.03:
22 Bd5 Ba5 23 Rb3 b5 24Ra3 Qd8 25 Rc1 Bb6 26 Qf2 a5 27 Rb3 Qf6. The actual move 21 ..Re7 is the losing move, it is at rated at 2.19 |
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| Feb-14-18 | | thegoodanarchist: "Poopy Nelle" got whooped. |
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