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| Aug-14-07 | | Ghizza: Easier than yesterday |
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| Aug-14-07 | | vibes43: The <MostlyAverageJoe:> analysis validates the 24. Rxa7 solution posed by <Monkey King:> for all practical purposes on Tue puzzle. I recognized that the h7 escape hatch for black would mean no quick mate but my choice (24. Qxd8+) appeared more direct. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | mkrk17: Well yeah, Rxa7 gets full points if you intended to follow it with Qxd8+ and then Ra8. But if the intention was to grab a pawn and see if the Queen takes the rook or not, then i dont think it deserves full point. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Tactic101: The position was literally calling for a sac like this. Nice exploitation of the passed pawn and weak back rank. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Murphyman: Lovely Problem.
Lilienthal must have enjoyed this win.
Solved it in about 30 secs.
White just has so much back rank action going on.
Shows the value of always being alert when you have not played a "luft" move of ...g6 or h6 to give the king some escape |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Murphyman: 20).... Rac8 looked to be the blunder.
Why didnt he play?
20).... exd5 |
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| Aug-14-07 | | ianD: Pretty simple puzzle again today. I am on a roll. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | MikeChesss: Weak back rank and a passed pawn with a rook in support makes the queen sac relatively easy to spot. Bring on Wednesday! |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Creg: The puzzle offers one winning theme and that is the back rank mate starting with Qxd8+. It doesn't matter how you go about it as long as you see the theme. Rxa7 prior to Qxd8 is simply unnecessary, it doesn't lose, it just doesn't need to be played. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Fezzik: This is a good Tuesday puzzle. It's relatively simple for the regulars to see, but it contains enough complexity and relevance for it to be instructional. <MAJ> has pointed out an alternative win. I didn't notice it because the more obvious line won. I don't mind that there's an alternate win here because this was a *game* and not a puzzle. If this was later in the week, then ther should probably be only one best line. Today, the main line is enough to teach, and I can use the second line for enrichment purposes. Great choice, chessgames.com! |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Fitz: This one was easy, the first was pretty obvious and the rest was not too hard either. Nice puzzle though! |
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| Aug-14-07 | | beenthere240: <Creg> nails it. If 27. Rxa7 is played with the intention of following it up with Qxd8+, then the next step is to investigate playing Qxd8+ immediately. And behold it works. Therefore 27. Rxa7 is not so much wrong as pointless. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | TopaLove: This game is wonderful. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Richard03: <willyfly:I'll never be a child prodigy > In a post- simul conversation, GM Kaidanov indicated that learning after maturity limited the ability to advance. So it isn't your fault. Blame it on the parents. Polgar might be a good place to look for a cure. After all he did do well by the daughters. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | realbrob: 24.Qxd8+ Qxd8 (forced) 25.Rb8, Black can delay mate playing something like 25..h6 but then of course he's down a piece and can't prevent White from promoting the pawn, so the game is over of course. <MostlyAverageJoe> You're right, White can also play 24.Rxa7 and win another pawn, but I don't think that's relevant. Maybe in the spirit of a puzzle you're supposed to win in the fastest way possible. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Crowaholic: <MostlyAverageJoe: I am not exactly sure why the second line is less forcing.> I think it's less forcing for the same reason that taking a toilet break is less forcing than playing 24. Qxd8+ outright. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | chessamateur: <fictionist> It'll be about 1624 next month. Thanks for the welcome back. However I've always been here though. Forgot my damn password for awhile and was under a couple of other names, like The 3 Gambiteers for ex. How have you been? |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Ragh: 20..Rac8?? is a very costly blunder. It only helped strengthened white's grip on black's weak back rank. A beautiful combination to end the game. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | kevin86: A queen sac-it looks like a Monday puzzle-but it is a little more complicated for Monday. Yesterday's puzzle was less of a Monday style and today's is a little harder-hence the switch. The key move was to thin out the weak back row of black's. While I disagree that 20...♖ac8 was a blunder-the move in itself isn't so bad,the idea was; The next move was far worse in my eyes. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | YouRang: Good Tuesday puzzle -- Black obviously had back-rank issues, and white obviously had a number of lateral-moving pieces (a queen, two rooks and a promoted pawn!) all threatening to hit the back rank. It's just a matter of finding the right first move, and there's really only one viable candidate. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Certhas: This Patzer here was thinking Nd6... Didn't notice the fact that mate was in the air. meh. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | Morozov: I missed this puzzle. I originally looked at the 24. Qxd8+, but then turned away. I ended up with 24. Nd6, which threatens his rook on c4. Once he moves, I fork the rook and king with Nxf7+. My analysis could be incorrect, but either way, 24. Qxd8+ is clearly superior to 24. Nd6. |
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| Aug-14-07 | | dabearsrock1010: Easy Tuesday the back rank theme screams at you and its not a difficult calculation |
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| Aug-14-07 | | playground player: That Black King sitting on the back rank behind his row of pawns was just asking for it; and what he got was Qxd8, leading directly to doom. Back when I was learning chess at our neighborhood playground, we used to call that kind of mate "the Old Man." |
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| Aug-14-07 | | alexandrovm: not even close... |
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sac: 24.Qxd8+