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| Aug-01-19 | | utssb: 14.Bc4 shouldn't work because of
14...Ne4 15.Qe4 Nc5 16.Qd5 Ne6 with ...c6 and b5 coming ex. 17.Ra5 c6 18.Ra8 cd5 19.Bd5 Nc7
14...Ne4 15.Qe4 Nc5 16.Qe3 Ne6 safe with the pawn up for Black
14...Ne4 15.Bb5 Bd7 16.Ba4 Ba4 17.Qe4 Bc6 pawn, bishop pair and tempo for Black
16.Qe4 Bb5 17.Qb7 c6 (or anything really)
14...Ne4 15.Bb5 Bd7 16.Bd7 Qd7 17.Qe4 Nc5 or b5 |
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| Aug-01-19 | | utssb: or 14...Ne4 15.Bb5 Nac3 rather |
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| Aug-03-19 | | James51358: This awesome game between 2 great players is so much fun to analyze!!! It's like, how did this game happen? No computers, just 2 intelligence human brains at work!! INCREDIBLE!!! This game took over 9 Hours to play.Not to mention the over night analyzing!! WOW!!! |
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| Sep-08-19 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 'I found ways that Spassky could get a winning position in the opening of the Alekhine Defence. Fischer played the Alekhine Defence and Spassky missed a very big advantage.' https://www.stabroeknews.com/2015/f... |
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| Sep-13-19 | | James51358: N.O.F.. I'm sure post game analyze prove that both players missed some good moves. I believe 1....Nf6 hit Spassky like a cold shower. He was not prepared for it at all and lost this beautiful, yet brutal, game to Fischer. Giving Fischer a strong 3 point lead with just 11 games left. Any thoughts? |
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| Oct-23-19 | | The Boomerang: harrylime: <perfidious: That formidable analytical team which assisted Botvinnik in his efforts to hold the draw against Fischer would have had nothing on today's Stockfish et al.>
Give Fischer Stockfish . The Fischer of 1970. Just like Magnus the draw King has ..
That would be interesting. 😎😚"
Carlsen scored better against Anand in 2013, than Fischer did against Spassky in 1972. With regards to engines it's all relative, if Fischer had an engine his opponents would too, actually for the first time his opponents would have a reference point stronger than Fischer, so that should narrow the gap between Fischer and his opponents, would it not? |
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| Oct-23-19 | | Carrots and Pizza: Is this not one of the most hard fought, uncompromising WCC games of all time? I guess there are some mistakes in this game and some people think that takes away from its glory, but I don't care. This is real chess! |
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| Oct-23-19 | | ewan14: Fischer playing the Alekhine Defence should not have been a surprise |
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| Nov-08-19 | | James51358: This game took over 9 hours(over 2 days) to play. Not to mention many hours of overnight analysis after adjournment. We can't even imagine that in today's speed chess world. Kinda sad!! |
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| Nov-08-19 | | RookFile: It's a pity that neither Spassky nor Fischer wrote a book about this match. There must be a lot of unrevealed secrets. |
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Nov-08-19
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| Nov-14-19 | | James51358: Rookfile, this very game has it's unrevealed secrets. 2 great players in this one incredible game. Fought tooth and nail til the end. how amazing!!!! |
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| Nov-23-19 | | James51358: It's amazing to me how much this one game(and this entire match) has affected(or infected) the Chess world. This game is(by far and away) the most analyzed in chess history. Boris Spassky and Robert Fischer are great people and true masters of this game!!! |
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Nov-23-19
 | | beatgiant: <James51358>
<This game is(by far and away) the most analyzed in chess history.>Based on what? Even in this same match, Spassky vs Fischer, 1972 has about twice as many pages of kibitzing as this one, and a lot of it looks like in-depth analysis. |
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| Jan-04-20 | | James51358: Chess.com computer analysis suggests that 14. Bc4 would have been a better move than 14. Bxc4. I agree with this because Spassky is down a pawn and trading pieces is, generally, a bad idea when down in material. Also, he keeps his white squared bishop on the board a little longer. Your thoughts? |
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| Jan-04-20 | | James51358: Sorry, I meant 14. Bxa4 |
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| May-03-20 | | joddon: must be Carlsens favorite all time game, his most studied game...if you look at the tempo Carslen uses it comes from this game....there is no positional exchange in this game, rather pushing pawns like Carlsen likes....I think he must have studied this game thoroughly as a child....when I think about how Fischer pushes his attack and wins through tactical engineering of space and tempo on the board, one will see what a genius he really was. although Fischers preparation always worked I think Spassky had quite a counter ready for him however it didn't do much!! |
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| Aug-16-20 | | Albion 1959: Probably the best game from 1972. In spite of the errors. This type of endgame would make even a strong and far-ranging search engine blow a fuse.
These types of game tend not feature in a "Best Games" collection, because they are too long and too difficult to annotate, so authors tend to go for for shorter games (less than 40 moves) that do not have mind-blowing tactical play !! |
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Aug-17-20
 | | perfidious: All in all, a terrific scrap, rich in vicissitudes. |
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| Aug-17-20 | | Granny O Doul: ...reflecting almost equal credit on the first player and the conductor of the sable forces. |
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Aug-17-20
| | NM JRousselle: Bobby missed 32... c4. This move drives the White knight away before f4 and e5 are available. After 32... c4 33 Nb4 hg 34 fg f5, Black appears to be in firm control of the position. Fortunately, Bobby missed this move & we get rewarded with a great game! |
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| Oct-09-20 | | Morlaf: Karpov has claimed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPd...) that he found over the board a refutation for white, allowing him a near-forced win. Does any1 know Karpov's refutation cosists of, please? |
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| Dec-20-20 | | dejandjakovic: I think that Karpov found 25. e6 |
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| Feb-11-21 | | Petrosianic: One good example of how your skill increases over time is why 64...h1 is necessary. When I studied this game, just starting to play chess, it was a mystery, and Gligoric's comment didn't explain it well. Now, it's obvious, virtually at a glance, that it's necessary if Black wants to play for a win. White's Rook can hold the isolated f and h pawns back. Black's qside pawns are self-supporting with or without the Black King guarding them, but they also can't queen, with or without the King helping them. Only if the King gets over to try escort the f pawn in is there even a chance of playing for a win. |
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| Feb-11-21 | | Petrosianic: One thing to keep in mind. When you study this ending a lot, you tend to ignore the pieces on f7, g7 and g8 entirely and try to calculate the R vs. P ending. But even immobile, the White B performs a valuable service, keeping the K off the a3-f8 diagonal. If you removed those three pieces, Black would win easily. |
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sac: 49...Kxd7