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| Dec-01-02 | | drukenknight: Drunk's Tactical Challenge of the Day: This one is a real fun one. NO strategy, no opening theory, just take all the pieces. This is one of those games where your opponent looks up at you and says "Yeah okay you won, but it was all tactics, you know nothing about strategy." "Whatever, buddy just set them up again." About the opening It can be called a closed French, the only question I have is why does Uhlmann advance those pawns on the q side what does he hope to accopmlish? It doesnt see like there can be any real strategy until some assymetry has formed, namely be taking pawns. I wouldn't even bother to castle until I can see some sort of strategy taking place. ANyhow, skip the first 20 moves. It is all boring. The real fun begins about move 17 when all the pieces embark on a mad scramble to kill each other. The first question is: WHat is the losing move? I'll give you Evan's analysis: "19...BxP 19...Nb6 is much safer. Now black cannot recover. " That's absurd. I dont think he could have lost it there. Why doesnt black get his bishops on the long diagonals, why doesnt he bang the Q in the corner, why doesnt he get rid of that stupid pawn on d6? There is a tactical shot on move 20 to be aware of: 20...fxe6 21 Nc7 RxB 22 Nxe6. Whatever jes for the record, Evans mentioned it. Anyhow you guys tell me what you think. |
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| Dec-01-02 | | pawntificator: I don't even see the win right now |
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| Dec-01-02 | | drukenknight: good, you are on the right track!
Here is what Evans says p 53 Modern Chess Brilliancies "It has now become apparent that white emerges a piece ahead after 27 QxN QxR 28 QxBP+ RxQ 29 PxR+ KxP 30 BxQ etc." Doesn't work does it?
Okay good we move onto 3rd question (2nd question was going to be: why does he resign?) 3rd question: How do you continue as black after white goes QxN? |
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| Dec-01-02 | | pawntificator: QxN looks pretty good, I don't see an adequate response |
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| Jul-02-05 | | tenor114: i'm new to all this, but it looks like maybe exf7 wins the queen? |
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Jul-02-05
 | | WannaBe: <tenor114> How do you figure that? If exf7 I'd follow that with Rxf7. |
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| Jul-02-05 | | euripides: Welcome, <tenor>.
27 Qxf6 Qxe4 (if gxf6 28 Rg4+) 28 Qxf7+ Rxf7 28 exf7 and 29 Bxe4 seems to do the trick. |
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| Jul-02-05 | | tenor114: yeah, never mind. i was looking at a discovered attack from the bishop, but forgot that the pawn would not be defending the rook from the queen. my bad. i guess that's what practice is for :) |
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| Aug-10-05 | | Averageguy: 26...Kxf8 looks better. Now white can win an exchange with 27.Re5, or the queen with 27.e7+ Ke8 28.Rd4 Qxg2+ (otherwise Bxc8...Rd8+ etc.) 29.Kxg2 cxd4 30.Qxd4 Kxe7. Now I think white should win due to the exposure of blacks king and possible forks on the king and the rook. |
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| Aug-10-05 | | Happypuppet: <How do you continue as black after white goes QxN?> What's wrong with the desperado QxR? Doesn't it win the exchange?
(yay for replying to 3 year old kibitzes @_@) |
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| Aug-13-05 | | Averageguy: <Happypuppet> <What's wrong with the desperado QxR? Doesn't it win the exchange? (yay for replying to 3 year old kibitzes @_@)> White goes into the endgame up a piece after his own desperado with 28.Qxf7+! Rxf7 (...Kh8 29.Qxf8#) 29.exf7+ Kxf7 30.Bxe4. |
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Aug-20-07
 | | Fusilli: <drukenknight> <About the opening It can be called a closed French, the only question I have is why does Uhlmann advance those pawns on the q side what does he hope to accopmlish?> It's actually known as the King's Indian Attack. Usually White plays for attack on the king side and black has to run with all his queenside pawns at once, or risk ending up with no counterplay at all. This game is atypical in that the center opened, but most KIA games remain with the center relatively closed for most of the game. Fischer played the KIA successfully a few times. See Fischer vs Myagmarsuren, 1967, Fischer vs Panno, 1970. An alternative for black is to play for 0-0-0... here's a brilliant win for white: D Norwood vs S Marsh, 1992. Of course there are wins for black too: in this one Uhlmann neutralizes White's actions on the kingside and demonstrates why the advance of the queenside pawns is a good plan: Jiri Nun vs Uhlmann, 1979. And what about this one? Savon vs Uhlmann, 1968 |
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| Nov-09-07 | | dixi82: In response to <drunkenknight>, based on Gheorghiu's annotations on the game: - black's advance on the queenside was at the time the main defence system (queenside counterplay). - 15... Nd4! was an attempt to improve black's play from Fischer - Mjagmarsuren. - 16. c4! counters Black's move.
- Instead of 19 ...Bxd3, Gheorghiu thinks that 19...Nb6 was the only reasonable counterplay; play could continue: 20. Nxe7+ Qxe7 21. Ng5 with a strong attack. Uhlmann told Gheorghiu after the game that he was unhappy with his position and didn't think Nb6 could have given him more. - after 20...fxe6 21. Bc7! Bf6! 22. Qd1! Qc8 23. Rxe6 Bf5 (or c4) -> white wins with 24. Rxf6! - after 20 ...fxe6 21. Bc7! Qe8 22. Rxe6 Rf7 23. Ng5, black is overwhelmed. - black resigned in view of the following variations: 26...Rxf8 27. Qxf6!! gxf6 28. Rg4+ or 27... Qxe4 28. Qxf7!+ Rxf7 29. exf7+ Kxf7 30. Bxe4, in both cases winning a piece. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | YoungEd: Excellent pun, but I never thought Uhlmann demonic! |
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| Sep-07-09 | | TheBish: <drunkenknight: Here is what Evans says p 53 Modern Chess Brilliancies "It has now become apparent that white emerges a piece ahead after 27 QxN QxR 28 QxBP+ RxQ 29 PxR+ KxP 30 BxQ etc." Doesn't work does it?
Okay good we move onto 3rd question (2nd question was going to be: why does he resign?) 3rd question: How do you continue as black after white goes QxN?> drunkenknight, your line of questioning doesn't make sense. You give Evans' winning analysis (which he obviously checked before publishing), yet you ask "doesn't work, does it?" Care to clarify? Inquiring minds want to know! (If you make an error, you can either correct it or delete the post, if you choose.) |
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| Sep-07-09 | | rangek: <TheBish> Maybe he was being rhetorical, anyway he last posted here 7 years ago so I wouldn't be hopeful of a reply here :P |
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| Sep-07-09 | | TheaN: <"The Devil Went Down to Gheorghiu"> Arrrghhh the Guitar Hero memories... horrors... |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Eduardo Leon: Perhaps <16. ... Nb6> was better. Could anybody tell me what Rybka has to say? |
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| Sep-07-09 | | dotsamoht: <TheBish> Of course Evans was correct, as are you. 27 Qxf6 Qxe4 28 Qxf7+ Rxf7 29 exf7+ Kxf7 30 Bxe4 is clearly winning. Black's a-pawn falls, White brings his King over... easy win. Thanks to <dixi82> for the review of the GM analysis. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Sacrificator: <Eduardo Leon>
Analysis by Rybka 2.2n2 mp 32-bit :
1. = (0.11): 1...Sd4-b3 2.Ta1-b1 d5xc4 3.Se3xc4 Sd7-b6 4.Sc4xb6 Dd8xb6 5.Sf3-g5 Ta8-d8 6.Lg2-e4 2. = (0.11): 1...d5xc4 2.d3xc4 Sd4-b3 3.Ta1-b1 La6-b7 4.h4-h5 h7-h6 5.Sf3-d2 Lb7xg2 6.Kg1xg2 Sb3xd2 3.  (0.44): 1...Sd7-b6 2.c4xd5 Sd4xf3+ 3.Lg2xf3 Sb6xd5 4.Se3xd5 e6xd5 5.e5-e6 La6-c8 6.e6xf7+ Tf8xf7 7.Dd1-e2 Ta8-a7 8.Ta1-b1 4. (0.51): 1...Sd4xf3+ 2.Lg2xf3 Sd7-b6 3.Ta1-b1 La6-b7 4.Te1-e2 Lb7-c6 5.Te2-b2 Ta8-a6 6.Lf3-g2 Tf8-e8 7.Dd1-g4 5. (0.52): 1...f7-f6 2.e5xf6 Le7xf6 3.Sf3xd4 c5xd4 4.Se3-g4 Sd7-c5 5.Sg4xf6+ Dd8xf6 6.Ta1-b1 Df6-f7 7.Lf4-d6 Ta8-c8 |
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| Sep-07-09 | | heizfeld: p.e. exf7+ Kh8 Re8!
and black simply has to mourn about the loss of the lady in every way or it´s matethe bishop at g2 is the tru terminator ;o) |
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| Sep-07-09 | | whiteshark: Fritz evaluation after <15.Ne3> 
click for larger view 1) 15...Nb6 16.Nd2 Rb8 17.Qg4 g6 18.h5 Nd7 19.hxg6 hxg6 20.Nf3 Nd4 21.Nh4 Rb6 22.c4 dxc4 23.Nxc4 Bxc4 0.00/21 2) 15...Rb8 16.c4 dxc4 17.dxc4 Nb6 18.Nd2 Qc8 19.Qg4 Rd8 20.Ne4 Nxc4 21.Nxc4 Bxc4 22.h5 Nd4 23.Nf6+ Kh8 24.h6 g6 0.01/21 3) 15...h6 16.c4 dxc4 17.dxc4 Ra7 18.Qxa4 Bb7 19.Qd1 Qa8 20.Ra2 Rd8 21.Rd2 Nf8 22.Rxd8 Bxd8 23.Nc2 Ng6 0.24/21 4) 15...Ra7 16.c4 dxc4 17.Qxa4 Qc7 18.Nxc4 Bxc4 19.Qxc4 Nb6 20.Qe4 Ra4 21.Qe2 Nd5 22.Qc2 Ra7 23.Bd2 Rfa8 24.Qa2 h6 0.25/21 5) 15...d4 16.Ng4 Rc8 17.h5 h6 18.Nd2 Qc7 19.Qe2 Kh8 20.Rab1 Rb8 21.Nc4 Bxc4 22.dxc4 Bg5 23.Bxg5 hxg5 0.40/21 So the 21ply engine evaluation wouldn't have played <15...Nd4>. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | TheChessGuy: "...And he was lookin' for a soul to steal. He was in a bind, 'cause he was way behind, and he was willin' to make a deal." -Charlie Daniels, "The Devil Went Down to Georgia." |
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Sep-07-09
 | | HeMateMe: Some people didn't like East Germans, notably the '76 American womens olympic swim team. But they weren't devils! |
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| Sep-07-09 | | RandomVisitor: After 15.Ne3:
1: Florin Gheorghiu - Wolfgang Uhlmann, Sofia 1967
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 : <18-ply> 1. = (0.07): 15...Rb8 16.c4 dxc4 17.Nxc4 Nb6 18.Nd6 Nd5 19.Qxa4 Nxf4 20.gxf4 Na5 21.Nc4 Nxc4 22.dxc4 Qb6 23.Red1 Rfd8 24.Kh2 Rxd1 25.Rxd1 Bb7 26.Qc2 Bxf3 2. = (0.13): 15...Nb6 16.Ng4 Re8 17.h5 h6 18.Qd2 Rb8 19.Bxh6 gxh6 20.Nxh6+ Kg7 21.Qf4 Rf8 22.Ng4 Nd7 23.Qxa4 Bb5 24.Qf4 Kh8 25.c4 dxc4 26.a4 Ba6 <After 19...Nb6 20.Nxe7+ Qxe7 21.e6 f6 black still has problems:> 1: Florin Gheorghiu - Wolfgang Uhlmann, Sofia 1967
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 :
<[+0.88] d=21 22.Qb2> Nd5 23.Nd4 Nxf4 24.Nf5 Qc7 25.gxf4 Qxf4 26.e7 Qxf5 27.Bxa8 Re8 28.Re3 Rxa8 29.e8Q+ Rxe8 30.Rxe8+ 00:41:14 174188kN |
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