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Ben de Cat vs Tugrul Arcasoy
"Year of De Cat" (game of the day Nov-19-2004)
12th NATO (2001), San Remo ITA, rd 4, Oct-10
Grob Opening: General (A00)  ·  1-0



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  tpstar: <> You guys have great taste in music. ;>D
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: White goes strolling through the board like Peter Lorre, contemplating a crime.

However, how do we know this game isn't spurious? With all due respect to Black, his name looks like a normal phrase scrambled (sorry, I forget the technical term), although it might not be English.

Nov-19-04  SBC: <An Englishman>

Here is Ben de Cat's homepage (or, since it's in Dutch, the best I can determine it's his homepage)

Nov-19-04  SBC: <since it's in Dutch...>

de Cat is from Belgium. I think.

Nov-19-04  Catfriend: Yes, northern Belgium according to a net-search..

Liked that game, but black is VERY passive! 30..♕d5? 31.♖c5! ♕d6?? loses immediately!

Nov-19-04  JohnnyUSMC: This game is one of Ben de Cat's games from the 2001 NATO Championship, held in Sam Reno, Italy. His opponent was from the Turkish team. This was Ben de Cat's only game that he won in the seven round swiss-system that was played that year. I have personal knowledge of this because I played him at the same tournament from the black side of the board against his Oragutan in round 2 which I won. My fellow USMC team mate Jim Adkins beat Ben de Cat in the 6th round... which was quite funny, Jim ended up showing late for the 6th round because he was studying to play against Ben de Cat's 1b4 or 1g4 tactics, which Ben de Cat ended up playing 1d4 against him. Reference:
Nov-19-04  acirce: The NATO Championships, lol. Excuse me while I throw up.
Nov-19-04  mack: Hmm - the Grob, <ray keene>'s favourite opening.
Nov-19-04  OktHorse: <acirce> Are you feeling sick? I don't get it. NATO does not have chess tournaments?
Nov-19-04  mahmoudkubba: In what way the white can win? I am messing the winning method please tell me?????
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  kevin86: Let's see:Begin with a center pawn,don't bring your queen out too soon,develop toward the center,castle early,etc. I thought that's what a player had to do in chess---I guess the right rule is:WIN BABY WIN!!

NATO-bah! I have liked to see a Warsaw Pact Tournament (lol)

Nov-19-04  artemis: being up a rook helps winning chances dramatically

black does not have ANY compensation for he rook save a pawn. White has compensation for the pawn in his attack, So black is down a rook for a pawn AND he must defend against Ra8+ and create counter play before he is crushed by white's superior forces. He cannot afford equal trades, and must get two rooks for his one, not an easy thing to do when playing against a decent opponent.

In general, look for the side who is down in material and look for a good offensive plan. If non exist, then he is losing. If they do exist, then it is probably unclear.

Nov-19-04  Stonewaller2: <mahmoudkubba> White threatens 36. ♖a8+ ♔d7 37. ♕xc7+ followed by 37. ... ♔e8 38. ♖xd8+ ♕xd8 ( 38. ... ♔f7? 39. ♖d7 ) 39. ♖xe5+ or 37. ... ♔e6 38. ♖xe5+, either way winning the Black ♕.

<An Englishman> "Ben de Cat" would be an anagram for "CD beaten."

Nov-19-04  Stonewaller2: After 35. ... ♔b8 36. ♕a7+ ♔c8 37. ♕a8+ ♔d7 38. ♖d5+ ♔e8 39. ♕xd8+ ♕xd8 40. ♖xd8+ ♔xd8 White is simply a ♖ ahead.
Nov-19-04  maoam: And presumably you, <showmethemoney>, are none other than <spassky69>?
Nov-19-04  Rogon: I don't understand... what is wrong with 33. Nxb6 when the only chance is .. Qxg5+, 34. Kf2 and no whatever move follows, Qa8#.

What's wrong with that line?

Nov-19-04  acirce: <OktHorse> They apparently do, check the link in my post
Nov-19-04  aw1988: Wow, awesome pun. Good taste in music! Al Stewart rules.
Nov-19-04  aw1988: I especially like "Nostradamus"- currently my favorite song.
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  patzer2: What's wrong with NATO? It kept communism contained and out of western Europe during the era of Soviet domination. Fortunately this inherently flawed and failed economic system collapsed internally. I'm hoping it won't be long until Cuba is it's last victim and that China eventually adopts more democratic reforms, such as free elections, protection of individual liberties and a truly representative government, to go along with its mostly capitalist economy.
Nov-20-04  Catfriend: <Rogon> 33.♘:♘b6 c6 or 33..♕:g5+ 34.♔f1 c6 and though white has a piece more, he isn't winning. The material advantage in the game is higher.
Nov-20-04  aw1988: "Man man your time is sand your ways are leaves upon the sea, I am the eyes of Nostradamus all your ways are known to me" :)
Feb-12-05  aw1988: <Good Evening: White goes strolling through the board like Peter Lorre, contemplating a crime.> At least the members here know great music. (with no offense to iron maiden)
Feb-12-05  aw1988: This isn't his best song either; Nostradamus is brilliant, as is Roads to Moscow, the last day of June 1934, and others...
Mar-19-07  schnarre: Spiked!
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