|Aug-25-03|| ||Corben: This is more sac, sac, oops black has 2 passed pawns, and luck black hasnt sight of mate in 2. |
|Aug-25-03|| ||pedroska: Black clearly blundered. Sad as it's chances where great, for example, after:|
Black could have played:
39. .. Qe5+
40. Kb1 Rb8+
41. Bb3 axb3
And one bishop falls. So this game was not as simple as "sac sac mate". It was more like "sac sac oops did not work blunder mate", as black was doing fine.
|Aug-25-03|| ||patzer2: <Pedroska> Congratulations on finding the improvement against Fischer. However, a simultaneous exhibition is not really a true test of even a Grand Master's or world champion's skill. Still, despite the mistakes, the win was a pretty swindle on Fischer's part.|
Note that as a side variation on your analysis if 39. Bd5 Qe5+ 40. Bb2 Qe1+ 41. Bc1 Qxc1#
|Aug-25-03|| ||pedroska: <patzer2> Sure, Bb2 is not playable, that's why Qe5+ is strong.|
Also, you are right. A simul is just a simul.
|Aug-25-03|| ||crafty: 39...♕e5+ 40. ♔b1 ♖fd8 41. c4 ♖xd5 42. ♕xd5 ♕xd5 (eval -10.05; depth 14 ply; 500M nodes)|
|Aug-25-03|| ||patzer2: <Pedroska/Chessgames.com> Not that the computer analysis here is preferable, since both Pedroska's line and Crafty's line win easily, but I suppose the point of 39...Qe5+ 40. Kb1 Rfd8 41. c4 Rxd5 42. cxd5 (instead of 42. Qxd5 Qxd5+-) would be 42...Qb8+ 43. Qb2 [43. Bb2 a3+-] 43...Qxb2 44. Kxb2 Rxd5+-, with an easy win for black in the rook and pawn versus bishop and pawn end game. |
|Aug-25-03|| ||Marnoff Mirlony: Sac, Sac, Mate. That simple. Fischer does it again. |
|Aug-25-03|| ||SicilianDragon: Marnoff, it is most definitely not that simple. Have you even looked at the numerous winning lines for Black listed above?? Fischer was an amazing player but this win is the result of his opponent's lack of foresight, not his own skill. |
|Sep-04-03|| ||Marnoff Mirlony: So I guess if you win, but your opponent blunders, you shouldn't get the point? Winning is winning. |
|Sep-04-03|| ||Shadout Mapes: But it's not "that simple." While his opponent blundered and he won the point, you can't stop the fact that Fischer was in a losing position at one point, even if he managed to win later on. |
|Feb-23-05|| ||aw1988: <Corben: This is more sac, sac, oops black has 2 passed pawns, and luck black hasnt sight of mate in 2.> This is like that famous Tal game- Sac Sac Sac Sac Sac Spam Spam Sac Spam Spam Sac Spam Sac Oops Spam Sac Spam...|
Er... where were we?
|Jun-13-05|| ||TheDarkLordofpawns: as fischer says:pry open the h-file, sac sac sac mate. but in this one the h-file was closed to him!|
|Jan-22-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Great game! Well, looks like Black got Hart-Broken. :)
Oh, great. I always like puns.|
|Feb-16-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Hart is not Well|
|Oct-30-09|| ||Anthony1: Crafty had the position at -3.44 until I informed it that Fischer was playing. Crafty apologized.|
|Nov-10-11|| ||GrahamClayton: Ted Hartwell was a former president of the Idaho Chess Association. Here are his comments about this game, plus a picture of the scoresheet, complete with Fischers' autograph:|
"After losing the game I was in a state of shock for several days. I had victory in my hands. Bobby moved very fast on all boards at first. He played me that way until about 20 moves, then he started to take one or two minutes per move. I had over five minutes per move to start with and then, as Bobby knocked the weaker players off, he started putting the pressure on us. My game was one of the last four to finish. I had to move in about 15 seconds for the last five moves--believe me I was so nervous that I didn't see his final check and had to move over!! Bobby is terrific. I watched him play the final game and turned a draw, we thought, into a win by giving up a Rook and queening a pawn while the N watched I have played this game over and almost cannot believe I could make such a bad move."
|Dec-01-14|| ||TheFocus: From a simul in Ogden, Utah on April 8, 1964.
Fischer scored 60=2-1.
|Mar-13-15|| ||tpstar: 10 ... Ne5 11. Bb3 is a rare sideline = Opening Explorer|
Wow, an early Dragondorf, and Fischer was on the ropes. Curious that 39 ... Qe5+ 40. Kb1 Rfd8 improves over 40 ... Rb8+, yet this reinforces the old adage that won positions may have more than one winning line.
|Nov-27-17|| ||MissScarlett: <Ogden Crash>|
|Jul-19-18|| ||keypusher: <patzer2: <Pedroska/Chessgames.com> Not that the computer analysis here is preferable, since both Pedroska's line and Crafty's line win easily, but I suppose the point of 39...Qe5+ 40. Kb1 Rfd8 41. c4 Rxd5 42. cxd5 (instead of 42. Qxd5 Qxd5+-) would be 42...Qb8+ 43. Qb2 [43. Bb2 a3+-] 43...Qxb2 44. Kxb2 Rxd5+-, with an easy win for black in the rook and pawn versus bishop and pawn end game.>|
In the last line, 39....Qe5+ 40.Kb1 Rfd8 41.c4 Rxd5 42.cxd5, instead of 42....Qb8+ Black has 42....Rxc1+ 43.Kxc1+ Qa1+ winning the queen.
Also after 39....Qe5+ 40.Kb1 Black can play simply 40....Rb8+, since 41.Bb7 Rf7 wins on the spot.