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 | | LIFE Master AJ: And to be honest, I got this one (so quickly) because I am a fan of this player, I have several books on him. (I have the suspicion that I have seen this game before.) Of course for many years, Larsen played 1.Nf3, which can lead to a pure Reti. Had Black not played the ...e6; and early ...f5; approach, we might have seen the "Nimzo-Larsen Opening/Attack." (Keene wrote a good book on this opening.) |
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| Jan-12-06 | | SamuelS: I got it. The elements of the combination were obviuos, but it took me a while to find the right move order. At first, I tried to get the line given by <mrjoshherman> to work, but I couldn't, because it leaves White a piece down. Changing the order of moves worked. And, yes, I think that winning one pawn is not enough to win easily, but can anyone find a better move in this position? The purpose of a puzzle is to find the best move in the given position. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Frankly: Yes, the mrjoshherman line loses, because of Re7. It was also my line. Just a small matter of move order. Interesting that I might not have played that (wrong) line in a game because of lingering uncertainty, whereas I picked it as the solution since it appeared to force a win and this was, after all, a puzzle. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: I missed it. I was thinking something along the lines of 16.Qa3 intending 17.Qxf8+ Qxf8 18.Nf7+ Qxf7 19.Bxf7 but I already did no see any continuation after 18...Kg8 so I didn't trust that line too much already. Like <al wazir> (and I guess many others), I was looking for a bigger margin than one pawn! Still, I think also <SamuelS> makes a valid observation. This is a puzzle that might not win directly, but at least creates an advantage. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Richerby: I prefer to think of the combination as ``giving a won endgame'' rather than ``winning a pawn.'' OK, Larsen's only a pawn up at move 19 but Black's pawn structure is shattered and Larsen is soon three pawns up. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | jkiipli: <EXIDE: I did not get this one. White is one pawn up, does that guarantee victory?>
It's not "white to play and win" it's just "white to play" |
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| Jan-12-06 | | trumbull0042: I really enjoyed this puzzle. I hope Chessgames.com will be taking Thursday puzzles more in the direction of how to create subtle winning advantages like this one (extra pawn and better pawn structure). While one certainly shouldn't forget about opportunities for quick tactics in actual games, they only occur ever so often, i.e., rarely. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | euripides: Erwin Nievergiveoop ? |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Hudson Hawk: I think I looked at all the moves done but never got them in the right order. I too was looking for more than winning a pawn, but I agree that I like the idea of the more difficult puzzles seeking more subtle advantages. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | prinsallan: <Hudson Hawk>Were you born anywhere near Hudson River? |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Hudson Hawk: <prinsallan> Naw, just liked the crappy movie. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | prinsallan: I C - "Hudson River, Hudson Hawk". |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Marco65: I saw a very similar brilliant combination before. Among other pieces, White had Qg3, Nf5 and Rd1 (the d file was open), Black had Qc7, Be5, Rf8, Kg8 and pawns on f7 g7 h7. White wins a piece with 1.Nh6+ Kh8 2.Qxe5 Qxe5 3.Nxf7+. I think White was Capablanca, anybody remembers about that? |
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| Jan-12-06 | | abstraction: You can make a <puzzle> out of a game but no game is a puzzle (unless you are Tal), hence this is an excellent 'puzzle' because it forces you to think in terms of a game situation rather than a 'white/black to play (and win)' conundrum ( that is, when you already know there is some immediate solution/ result to be found). The old French etymology of 'puzzle' is to 'bewilder or confuse'; this was Tal's great strength: he was the Rabelais of the chess board. This is not an example of that kind of puzzle. Sometimes in chess it's better not to find problems where there aren’t any. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | JustAFish: Unlike yesterday, I actually got this one all the way through to 20 b3- but only after about 4 minutes of thought. Like some others, I looked at the smothered mate theme, but the queen was on the wrong diagonal. I also looked at sac-ing the knight on h7 and then bringing the queen over to the h file, but the pawn on g3 made this line too slow. Had I been playing this position in a real game, I might have lazily sought to improve the queen position in hopes of producing one of the alternate combinations. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | yoshi927: <aryoni> Can he? Now white has a passed pawn, and the only way Black can block it is getting a Rook in front of the pawn. So my idea is: 37...Kg6 38 Rc6+ Kh7 49 a7 Rf8 50 a8=Q Rxa8 51 Rxa8 leaving White up in pawns and by one rook. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | yoshi927: Revising: Sorry make that 50 Ra6 1-0. Or if not 1-0, I can't see anything for black to play that's especially good so 50... some move 51 a8=Q Rxa8 52 Rxa8. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | larsenfan: <LIFE Master AJ: And to be honest, I got this one (so quickly) because I am a fan of this player, I have several books on him. > Me too LIFE as you can see my nickname...by the way Larsen books are hard to find I only have his selection of best games and his books on Karpov -Kornochi match..do you know more books by Larse and where to find them? Thanks a lot... |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Order In Chaos: I have a question - who was the first Russian to become the world champion ? |
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Jan-12-06
 | | cu8sfan: That must've been Alexander Alekhine. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | Order In Chaos: Exactly ! But many sources say it's Botvinnik.I too think it should be Alekhine. |
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| Jan-12-06 | | HoopDreams: Solved it.. about 1 min |
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| Jan-12-06 | | notsodeepthought: At the time Alekhine became world champion (both times), I believe he was representing France - hence the description of Botvinnik as the first Russian champion. Perhaps it would be more accurate to call Alekhine the first Russian-born Champion (or similar language). |
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| Jan-12-06 | | BadTemper: No seriously, who gives a rats tush how long it took you people to find it. You and the lamont bashers and AJ bashers can stop posting here please. really im so tired of seeing "i solved this so quickly etc etc etc" |
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| Jan-12-06 | | aroyni: <yoshi927> Here's the 15 ply fritz game which is again a draw:
[Event "Shootout (Fritz9, 15ply) "]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1954.09.??"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Bent Larsen"]
[Black "Erwin Nievergelt"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A97"]
[Annotator ",Arash"]
[PlyCount "110"]
1. Nf3 e6 2. g3 f5 3. Bg2 Nf6 4. O-O Be7 5. c4 O-O 6. d4 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Re1
Ne4 9. Qc2 Nxc3 10. Qxc3 Bf6 11. Bg5 Bxg5 12. Nxg5 e5 13. dxe5 dxe5 14. Bd5+
Kh8 15. Rad1 Nc6 16. Bxc6 Qxc6 [%emt 0:01:13] 17. Qxe5 [%emt 0:01:43] h6
[%emt 0:01:28] 18. Qe7 [%emt 0:01:17] Qe8 [%emt 0:00:28] 19. Qxe8
[%emt 0:00:38] Rxe8 [%emt 0:00:21] 20. Rd8 [%emt 0:00:33] Rxd8
[%emt 0:00:43] 21. Nf7+ [%emt 0:00:50] Kg8 [%emt 0:01:03] 22. Nxd8
[%emt 0:01:27] Kf8 [%emt 0:02:34] 23. Rd1 [%emt 0:04:25] a5
[%emt 0:07:11] 24. c5 [%emt 0:03:50] Ra6 [%emt 0:02:40] 25. c6
[%emt 0:02:53] bxc6 [%emt 0:01:18] 26. Nxc6 [%emt 0:01:55] Rxc6
[%emt 0:01:13] 27. Rd8+ [%emt 0:01:40] Ke7 [%emt 0:00:44] 28. Rxc8
[%emt 0:01:30] Rc2 [%emt 0:03:50] 29. Kf1 [%emt 0:02:58] Rxb2
[%emt 0:02:57] 30. Rxc7+ [%emt 0:01:50] Kf6 [%emt 0:00:50] 31. Rc6+
[%emt 0:01:39] Ke7 [%emt 0:00:50] 32. Rc5 [%emt 0:01:12] Rxa2
[%emt 0:01:08] 33. Rxf5 [%emt 0:01:47] Ke6 (♖a2-a1+) [%emt 0:03:18] 34. e4
(♖f5-b5) [%emt 0:01:14] a4 (g7-g5) [%emt 0:03:02] 35. Ra5 [%emt 0:01:17]
g5 [%emt 0:01:30] 36. f4 (h2-h3) [%emt 0:01:46] gxf4 [%emt 0:01:38] 37.
gxf4 [%emt 0:01:01] a3 [%emt 0:01:07] 38. h3 (h2-h4) [%emt 0:01:03] Ra1+
[%emt 0:00:24] 39. Kg2 [%emt 0:00:15] a2 [%emt 0:00:15] 40. Ra6+
[%emt 0:00:17] Kf7 [%emt 0:00:07] 41. h4 [%emt 0:00:14] h5 [%emt 0:00:06]
42. Ra5 (♖a6-a8) [%emt 0:00:07] Kf6 (♔f7-g7) [%emt 0:00:05] 43. Ra8
[%emt 0:00:07] Kg6 (♔f6-g7) [%emt 0:00:04] 44. Ra7 [%emt 0:00:10] Kf6
[%emt 0:00:05] 45. Ra3 [%emt 0:00:06] Ke7 (♔f6-g7) [%emt 0:00:06] 46. Ra8
(♖a3-a4) [%emt 0:00:06] Kf7 (♔e7-e6) [%emt 0:00:06] 47. Ra6 [%emt 0:00:07]
Ke7 (♔f7-g7) [%emt 0:00:05] 48. Ra3 (e4-e5) [%emt 0:00:10] Kf7
[%emt 0:00:06] 49. Ra4 [%emt 0:00:06] Ke7 [%emt 0:00:05] 50. Kh2
[%emt 0:00:06] Rf1 [%emt 0:00:05] 51. Rxa2 [%emt 0:00:06] Rxf4
[%emt 0:00:07] 52. Ra4 [%emt 0:00:08] Rxh4+ [%emt 0:00:12] 53. Kg3
[%emt 0:00:07] Rg4+ [%emt 0:00:15] 54. Kf3 [%emt 0:00:08] Rg8
(♖g4-g6) [%emt 0:00:24] 55. Ra7+ [%emt 0:00:19] Kf6 [%emt 0:00:10] 1/2-1/2 |
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