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Nov-26-04 | | FearsomePawn: Yeah, the key element was getting the bishop to f6 with tempo. Otherwise the king wiggles out. |
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Nov-26-04 | | yackery: <chesslearning>..Thanks for the game, the note, and the pointer. The _Encyclopædia Britannica_ defines "aptronym" as a "name that fits some aspect of a character, as in Mr. Talkative and Mr. Worldly Wiseman in John Bunyan's _The Pilgrim's Progress_". That works for me. |
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Nov-26-04 | | kevin86: An odd puzzle! First,I thought it was black to win-then saw the rook sac without the necessary sac of its brother rook on the same square. As it turned out,black goofed and white won anyhow! :) |
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Nov-26-04 | | Nickisimo: Yep, I saw Bxh7+ and felt so proud of myself only to realize that infact I am truly "the chess moron". :) |
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Nov-26-04 | | nosh: I got the double rook sac version in under a minute and then checked it with Crafty (which got in in under a second I think...). This puzzle may very well have just sold me a book... I recently thumbed through a copy of "How to Beat Your Dad at Chess" in the bookstore (a very badly named book that is really about mating patterns). It had a similar double rook sacrifice in it. I'm sure it lead to me solving this puzzle (making me think I need to own it). (I had a similar experience with a book called "Your Move" years ago... Read the section on back rank mates and ended up with a nice combination on the back rank later that same day in a tournament...) Anyway, what a cool ending... |
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Nov-26-04 | | ice lemon tea: just like i thought!...21.Bxh7 is extremely the big blunder!...at the very first glance, i thought white gonna win...mmm...in fact the sacrifice of the second rook is really neccessary....this is to avoid the counterattack of the black...simply by 26. ... Qxa2+ 27. Kc1 Rac8+ 28. Kd2 Rc2# and white mated... |
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Nov-26-04 | | Lawrence: <kevin86>, other way round, Black won. eval. -17.89 says <Junior 8). 10 min search |
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Nov-26-04 | | weirdoid: So, in the other word, a more proper caption would have been "White plays but Black wins" which would sound funny IMVHO. |
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Nov-26-04
 | | tpstar: Yowza! I didn't realize until those last comments that this winning combination led straight into 0-1! Such a fine line between victory and defeat. |
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Nov-26-04 | | Skylark: I found the missed mate without realising it was written. I was about to post it when I discovered it was already there. I suppose that was the point of this puzzle, wasn't it. :( |
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Nov-26-04 | | patzer2: My solution to today's puzzle was 21. Rxg7+! Kf8 22. Rg8+! Kxg8 23. Rg1+ Kf8 24. Bg7+ Kg8 25. Bf6+ Kf8 26. Rg8+ Kxg8 27. Qg2+ Qg5 28. Qxg5+ Kf8 29. Qg7#. I looked at Adams line but figured it gave Black too much counterplay and saw no need to compute its complications-- especially since White has a straight forward deflection mate with 21. Rxg7+! |
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Nov-27-04 | | kevin86: <Lawrence> You are right,oops-I meant that white fumbled this away and black scored the touchdown! I guess that the players are not the only fumble-prone ones! |
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Jun-25-08 | | piroflip: Weaver Adams wrote a book claiming that after
1.e4 ...1. e5
2.Bc4
white has a forced win. |
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Mar-21-09 | | WhiteRook48: never resign! |
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Oct-13-17 | | sudoplatov: I found the mate. First, Bxh7 leads nowhere, h6 is a nice escape square. Qxe8 is hopeless. Bxg7 looks good but isn't check. So Rxg7, Kf8 needs to be considered. The only checks are Rxf7 and Rg8. Rg8 now allows for a Windmill kind of action with the capture of the square f6 (with check) instead of material gain. |
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Oct-13-17 | | dfcx: I would have played
21.Rxg7+ Kf8 22.Rg8+! Kxg8 23.Rg1+ Kf8 24.Bg7+ Kf8 25.Rg8+! Kxg8 26.Qg2+ and matesJust saw the same line from <patzer2> from 2004! |
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Oct-13-17 | | patzer2: The decisive error was 21. Bxh7+?? Kxh7 22.Rxh7+ when 22...Kh6 -+ (not 22...Kh8?? 23. Rh4+ +-) turns the tables and wins for Black. |
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Oct-13-17
 | | perfidious: The winning motif reminds me of a game I lost in 1996 in which I avoided the double sacrifice only to go down to defeat in rather more prosaic fashion, which I demonstrated in the post mortem to my opponent with Taylor Kingston a looker-on, who then annotated the game, presenting the unheard melody as his 'analysis' without attribution. Ethics in journalism, don't you know. |
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Oct-13-17 | | agb2002: White has the bishop pair for a bishop and a knight. Black threatens Rxe2 and Qxa2+ (21... Qxd4 22.Bxh7+). White can deliver mate in nine moves at most with 21.Rxg7+ Kf8 (21... Kh8 22.Rxh7+ Kg8 23.Rh8#) 22.Rg8+ Kxg8 23.Rg1+ Kf8 24.Bg7+ Kg8 25.Bf6+ Kf8 26.Rg8+ Kxg8 27.Qg2+ Kf8 28.Qg7#. The extra move is due to the useless Qg5 which can be played at 23, 25 or 27. |
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Oct-13-17
 | | scormus: Oh Black resigned:O
No wonder I couldn't find the win after 22 .... Kh6.
W pressed his self-destruct button when he played 21 Bxh7+?? Something I sometimes do myself |
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Oct-13-17 | | Gilmoy: So it's a <two-Rook Damiano>, with the Bf6 serving a dual role as the support for Qg7# <and> denying e7. Then we just need Q-sees-g, which we already have. (Note that a hypothetical Pf6 would have done just as well, if we had one who could get there.) Structurally, Bf6 + open g-file is thematic in many mates, e.g. the <Morphy mate> (which also discards 1 rook just to open the long diagonal). Ergo, when you have a double on g7, think Bf6 (for a triangle mate, among other patterns), and then you "know" there are mate patterns out there that cost both Rooks. Nifty: The other Rg1-sees-g7 pattern that "beats" Kh6 is ... Rxg7+ Kxg7, Bh6+!! to lure the K forward into a death trap. That one's even rarer than Damiano. But because it, too, exists in the idea space, we must retrain to know that two-piece sacs exist, and are thus worth a look during idea-generation. |
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Oct-13-17 | | gofer: I missed the mate, I saw the first rook sac, but missed the second. But I didn't walk into the trap of either playing Bxh7+ or Rxg7+ without seeing the mate. Instead, thinking this might be a <spoiler>, I chose Bxg7 playing for the draw. So, I have a question for any silicon based monsters; <Can white ride out the storm to a draw after 21 Bxg7?> |
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Oct-13-17 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Oh wow. I had 22 Qg2, and the reason that fails is really interesting: .
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Oct-13-17 | | stacase: Off Topic, the new control buttons for OLGA:
[‹‹][ ‹ ][ › ][››][+]
aren't logical
[››] should be last
Should look like
[‹‹][ ‹ ][+][ › ][››] |
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Oct-13-17 | | Kyudaime: → Let see, a double rook sac:
21. Rxg7+ Kf8 22. Rg8+ Kxg8 23. Rg1+ Kf8 24. Bg7+ Kg8 25. Bf6+ Kf8 26. Rg8+ Kxg8 27. Qg2+ Qg5 28. Qxg5 Kf8 29. Qg7# |
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