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| Apr-15-05 | | cade: Ouch. Nice trap highlighting the fallibility of protecting a piece by hiding it behind an enemy piece. |
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| Apr-15-05 | | Jamespawn: Why did Capa resign? I show him winning. |
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Apr-15-05
 | | tpstar: 0-1 = Black won = White resigned =) |
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| Apr-15-05 | | Jamespawn: Sorry tpstar, I see it here , but on the Mary Bain page they have her winning this game. |
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Apr-15-05
| | tpstar: Correct = there is enduring controversy over who played White here. Since Bain was a strong player, she probably defeated the blindfolded Capablanca, then the names were reversed at some point. |
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| Apr-15-05 | | paladin at large: In a Hooper/Brandeth list of Capablanca's simultaneous displays, the only one which would cover this game was 21 May 1933 in Hollywood with a score for Capa of 21 wins, no losses and 2 draws. |
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| Apr-16-05 | | Jamespawn: Can someone please explain to a 1500 player ;) why white resigned on move 11. It seems that material is even. I don`t see the trap. |
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Apr-16-05
 | | Chessical: <Jamespawn> White is a piece down, and if Rxc1, then Black remains a piece up by taking the Ba4. |
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| Apr-16-05 | | Karpova: 11.rc1: (or qc1: or nc1:) ra4: and black is a piece up.
even a 1500 guy should see that. |
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| Apr-16-05 | | Whitehat1963: <Jamespawn>, the material is not even. As soon as white takes back the knight or threatens the rook via f3, she loses the bishop. If white moves the bishop instead, she loses the knight on d3. On the other hand, if white tries to protect both the knight and bishop via Nc5, then black simply returns his knight to e2. No matter what, white is down a piece. |
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| Apr-16-05 | | cade: <Whitehat1963> If White plays Nc5 Black has to play Rc4. Otherwise the White Knight on c5 will take Blacks Rook. |
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| Apr-16-05 | | Whitehat1963: Good point, <cade>, my chess vision isn't the best. So, let's say white plays 12. Nc5. And black follows with 12...Rc4. White is still forked. What's best after that? |
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| Apr-17-05 | | Karpova: <Whitehead1963>
white would have to cover his knight (13.b4 is best) i think black would attain a winning position rather easily by playing na2: and rb4: to go on chasing the knight. black would be up two pawns. |
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May-07-05
 | | chessgames.com: After going back and forth over this game several times, we now have it as follows: Because it was a blindfold simul, we must assume it was Capablanca (and not Bain) conducting the simul. Moreover, it's very likely that the simul giver, Capablanca, had the White pieces. Mary Bain, being a strong player, was somehow able to score a quick victory with Black. I hope no further changes are necessary. If anybody disagrees with this please speak up. |
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| May-07-05 | | Calli: Have this comment in my database:
"According to Chess Life & Review, January 1973 it is claimed that when Capablanca resigned at move 12, Black 'would not accept victory and conceded the game as a draw. Raul graciously accepted' " This would explain why no losses are recorded for the simul. |
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| May-11-05 | | InspiredByMorphy: 7.Nxc6 dxc6 8.Bd3 would have been an attempt to hold the pawn. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | jahhaj: <Calli> I'm not doubting your quote, but what is gracious about accepting as a draw a game which you have lost? Especially when you are the professional and you lose to an amateur. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Zaius: I completely agree <jahhaj> |
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| Aug-08-06 | | atragon: I agree too. Better accepting when you lose a game. Capa was too much up respect to Mary Bain and he had to refuse that kind of gift. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | dakgootje: <jahhaj and others>Well i think it doesnt matter who the master and who the amateur is here. Its more that Capa obviously knew he was lost, and that he knew that she knew he was lost. Therefore he ALSO knew that she offered a draw at a moment she didnt need one. Gracious from her side and besides that by saving him she knew she made the game well-known (who would offer a draw versus capa in a won position) AND it would be very positive for the imagine people would have about her. Last but not least, in a situation as noted above is would be extremely graceless to decline the offer first of all because you decline a helping hand and it looks rude as its a woman who offers it. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Hannibal: man, you have to know Capa personality...he liked woman very much...and woman liked Capa too!!...even he used to offer draws agaist very beautiful woman-oponents in some games (casual games, etc)...capa was a "galán" |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Calli: <atragon> <jahhaj> <Zaius> "What you don't know about women is a lot." - Olympia Dukakis in the movie "Moonstruck" |
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| Aug-08-06 | | ughaibu: If Capablanca was blindfold, he wouldn't have known it was a woman. |
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| Aug-09-06 | | Calli: Are you forgetting the sense of smell? He was not blindfold. Capa played almost no blindfold games. This an ordinary simul. "The Unknown Capablanca" gives the result as 21 wins 2 draws on 21 May 1933. This PGN is one that is all around the 'net. I think somebody decided the only way JRC could blunder so badly was that he must have been sans voir. |
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| Jul-04-07 | | ianD: Not Capa's worst game the following game is appalling: Capablanca vs A Kramer, 1914 |
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