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Anja Both vs Spate
"Both missed it" (game of the day Nov-12-2021)
Bad Lauterberg Wch (1987), Bad Lauterberg GER
King's Indian Defense: Averbakh Variation. Flexible Defense (E73)  ·  0-1

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Dec-06-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <dakgootje> "trema" is the Dutch word for "diaeresis".
Dec-08-05  dakgootje: <EmperorAtahualpa> ty, however strange i didnt exactly remember that word. lol
Jan-14-06  Larsker: <chessgames.com: English speakers can't be expected to type, for example, "Hübner" on their keyboards.> True. But in all fairness, some of them actually manage to understand the rules of chess.
Feb-05-06  DeepBlade: SHIFT + '' + u = ü

About the game, nice fork!

Oct-03-06  johnnyfroaction: Deepblade- the fork is not nice in fact it loses, check the first comment on here.
Jan-22-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: They Both played a Spate of weak moves. :-) What kind of world championship was this?
Jan-22-09  Karpova: <FSR>
The German Women's Championship
Jan-23-09  whiteshark: Finally Both armies lost heavily.
May-26-09  WhiteRook48: Both of them missed it!
Nov-12-21  Brenin: Excellent pun ("it" being 40 Kc1 Nxd5 41 g7+).
Nov-12-21
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  OhioChessFan: Very good pun.
Nov-12-21  nalinw: I was wondering what Black missed .... bring lazy I checked with the engine - it turns out exchanging Queens instead of going for the fork is much better .... so yes BOTH missed the fact the the fork was actually losing ... very good pun
Nov-12-21  ajile: I Spate on your Grave.
Nov-12-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  sorso: how is this a win for black
Nov-12-21  goodevans: <nalinw: [...] I checked with the engine - it turns out exchanging Queens instead of going for the fork is much better...>

'Much better' in the engine's point of view but clearly losing whereas playing the fork won her the game so isn't that 'much better'?

Nov-12-21
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  perfidious: <FSR: They Both played a Spate of weak moves....>

One might say that, yaas.

Nov-12-21  Messiah: I am already accustomed to bad puns and horrific games, but this one is somewhere on a completely different level.
Nov-12-21  goodevans: The SF annotations that have appeared since this morning give <39...Qxd5+ 40.cxd5 Ng3 41.Rxg3 fxg3 42.Rg1 Kg7 43.Rxg3 ± +1.57 (19 ply)>.

We've seen time and again that SF evaluations with so few plies can't be trusted. Whilst +1.57 represents a healthy lead it isn't a nailed down win.

I think White's position is better than that and after <39...Qxd5+ 40.cxd5 Ng3> I see no great imperative for White to sac the exchange. <41.Rh4> (so that 41...Kg7 can be met by 42.Rg4) looks much stronger.

Nov-12-21
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  Teyss: Excellent pun because Spate (or Späte or whatever) missed 39...Qxd5+ 40.cxd5 Ng3 as <goodevans> said, blocking the g column. White is better but after 41.Rh4 Kg7 42.Rg4 still as some work to do because the BK blocks the WPs.

And Both missed 40.K moves Nxd5 41.g7+ with a new Q and attack on the BK. Should be part of a game collection "Resigning in a winning position". Does it already exist?

Nov-12-21
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  FSR: <Teyss> https://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2...
Nov-12-21
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  FSR: <Teyss> Game Collection: The Ultimate Blunders
Nov-12-21
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  FSR: <sorso> It's only a win for Black because White resigned. If not for that little detail, White is winning.
Nov-12-21  goodevans: <Teyss>, <FSR>,

I'll be checking out that game collection some time soon when I get a chance. Blunders can be great fun if you're not the perpetrator!

Here's a few more: Game Collection: find the worst move

Nov-12-21
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  Teyss: <FSR> <goodevans> Many thanks for the games. I had seen the timkr page before but had no clue how to search for collections on CG.
Will go through them with delight, there is something philosophical about these cock-ups, between "We are all mortal" and "I'm not the only one to blunder". Cheers.
Nov-12-21
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  playground player: Knight forks Queen and King, White's morale collapses.
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