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Deep Fritz (Computer) vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Deep Sixed" (game of the day May-05-2010)
Kramnik - Deep Fritz (2006), Bonn GER, rd 2, Nov-27
Queen's Gambit Accepted: Central. Greco Variation (D20)  ·  1-0

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Deep Fritz (Computer) vs Vladimir Kramnik (2006) Deep Sixed
Kramnik sits opposite the Deep Fritz operator, immediately prior to his critical blunder.


Kibitzer's Corner
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Feb-06-07  code13: No, he wasn't under time pressure, and he said he didn't feel tired. Just a complete aberration.
Apr-14-07  Duque Roquero: What kind of champion is this? Absolutely ridiculous. He doesn’t have the winning spirit, the attitude and the vigor of a real champion. He was representing the human race vs. the machine and look what he did, the stupidest blunder ever. I don’t give a dam for that “unusual pattern” excuse. Please, just look at that position! It’s a shame that these top players are nothing more than a bunch of very talented nerds (see Elista or Anand’s interviews, for instance). Chess is in crisis. I hope Radjabov or Carlen will become real champions one of these years. For now, Simon & Garfunkel might say: Where the hell have you gone GK?
Apr-14-07  square dance: if you dont like the current top players why dont you give the rest of us a break from your whining for about 5 years and then come back to game.
Apr-14-07  Duque Roquero: Certainly! only if you take at least that time for some reading lessons. Tell me who are “the rest of us” my friend? Maybe the ones who said the WC title worth much more.

Besides that, I still like Fritz… May I stay in CG? Please?

Apr-14-07  square dance: <Certainly! only if you take at least that time for some reading lessons.> you've got a deal, but im not sure why you'd think i need reading lessons. i can only assume because of my comment about current top players. well, you call kramnik, topalov and anand chess nerds. <It’s a shame that these top players are nothing more than a bunch of very talented nerds (see Elista or Anand’s interviews, for instance).> and you want radja and carlsen(two future top players) to emerge<I hope Radjabov or Carlen will become real champions one of these years.> and you long for the days of garry kasparov<For now, Simon & Garfunkel might say: Where the hell have you gone GK?> since you dont like any of the current top players i think you should just piss off until one of the younger guys takes over.

<Tell me who are “the rest of us” my friend?> real chess fans. you know, the ones who enjoy chess rather than bitch and moan about a stupid move, a lost exhibition game and the top players 'coolness'.

<Besides that, I still like Fritz… May I stay in CG? Please?> well, fritz isnt really a player so i dont think that qualifies, but its not up to me. then again i am the forgiving type, so if you do your insipid complaining somewhere else i surely wont be offended. i guess i just dont get why someone who claims to be a chess fan shows his 'interest' in the game with posts complaining about the top players. at least kramnik and anand are legends and topalov could be if he can ever get close to reproducing his 2005 results. and the fact is that they all give us great games. who cares if you perceive them as nerds?! btw, if you were so cool maybe you wouldnt be here complaining in the first place.

Apr-15-07  KingG: <I don't know how anybody can say with a straight face that these guys are stronger than Fischer.> Is there any topic <RookFile> won't try and bring Fischer into?
Apr-15-07  Duque Roquero: It’s amazing how much time you spent dissecting and studying my last message. I understand. Sorry, when I criticized nerds it had nothing to do with you. Now, instead of getting upset, go to Blockbuster and rent The Revenge of the Nerds. You’ll enjoy it very much.
Apr-15-07  Archives: <Duque Roquero>

Here are a couple games of your hero Fischer that you might enjoy

Fischer vs Letelier, 1959

Fischer vs R Burger, 1963

What kind of champion is this? Absolutely ridiculous.

Apr-15-07  square dance: <It’s amazing how much time you spent dissecting and studying my last message.> dissecting and studying? ok. you're welcome to exaggerate if it makes you feel better.

<I understand.> what do you understand? this doesnt follow with your previous or subsequent statements.

<Sorry, when I criticized nerds it had nothing to do with you.> gee, thanks. not that your opinion is meaningful in any way though.

<Now, instead of getting upset, go to Blockbuster and rent The Revenge of the Nerds. You’ll enjoy it very much.> im not sure if thats supposed to be funny, but ive already seen the movie when i was young. really, who's more of a nerd, guys who have reached the top of their field like kramnik, topalov and anand, or someone like you who comes on a message board to critisize them? so it seems to me like you're the only nerd trying to get some measure of revenge here.

Apr-15-07
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  tpstar: <ex0duz> "Deus Ex Machina"

One of the best captions ever. Bravo. ;>D

May-23-07
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  chancho: <Five months ago, the current champ, Vladimir Kramnik, overlooked an instant checkmate by his artificial opponent, Deep Fritz. "I rechecked this variation many times and analyzed quite far ahead," Kramnik protested. "It seemed to me I was winning."

Kramnik's blunder was no accident. It happened because of flaws in the human brain. We thought we were smarter than computers for two reasons. First, we could choose a goal and figure out how to get there, whereas computers had to start with the available moves and see where they led. Second, computers had to think through every possible move, whereas we could recognize crucial patterns and focus on the moves that mattered. But that's why Kramnik missed the checkmate: It looked different from the usual threat pattern, and he was thinking too far ahead. Even the best brain sometimes needs computer assistance.>

http://www.slate.com/id/2166000/

Aug-14-07  smarterthanbobby: I really hate to be the donkey but
what exact move.... did he miss it...
?/?/? if anyone can tell me it would
be nice thanks...
Aug-14-07  tdurda: He missed 37 Qh7 as onboard. This is checkmate.
Aug-14-07  RookFile: Hey archives:

Nice job quoting a game of Fischer's that is disputed as to whether it occurred.

<keypusher: An update to Krabbe's item notes that Donaldson's A Legend On the Road says the 14-move game is not a game, but a variation in the following game, which Fischer won>

Aug-14-07  smarterthanbobby: trdua that wasn't what I was seeking...
someone mentioned kramnik missed a mate
in this game... you know BLACK...had
a check mate.... does anyone know where
that check mate is....please....
read KKDEREK's post above....he says
kramik missed a mate....that's black missed a mate....anyone who couldent see whites mate would be blind.
Aug-14-07  micartouse: <he says kramnik missed a mate> When he said that he meant that Kramnik missed White's mate on h7. You can be said to have missed a mate whether it's your opponent's or yours.

Black had no forced mate in this game, although he had some positional advantage.

Aug-27-07  Karpova: <<One errs as long as one strives.>

(Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe (1749-1832), German poet, dramatist. Faust I, Prologue in Heaven (1808).)> http://www.poemhunter.com/quotation... (Quote 163)

Aug-30-07  dabearsrock1010: its crazy the world champ could blunder like this...your head simply needs to be out of focus...or your pockets full of chessbase money
Oct-11-07  Erdkunde: <I don’t give a dam > ...Well <Duque Roquero> if you're such an eager beaver for <reading lessons> then perhaps you should undertake some spelling lessons yourself?
Oct-11-07  ahmadov: <dabearsrock1010: its crazy the world champ could blunder like this...> I do not find this very tragic for Kramnik... He was very focused on the game and had a winning position before he blundered... He probably was very tired to make this mistake...
Dec-23-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  ketchuplover: null????????????????????????///
Jan-09-08  TigerG: Kramnik blundered big on this on. A world champion shouldn't make mistakes like this.
Jan-09-08  mworld: Check out this game with the declined variation with fritz.

Deep Fritz vs Kramnik, 2002

definitely some obvious styles.

Jan-24-08  asiduodiego: I guess that this game shows a flaw in the way of thinking of some Grandmasters. They search blindly for "patterns" in the game, instead of merely asking: "What is my opponent threat?". I know, I guess we all have ignored "Mate in One" threats, but I would expect that a World Champion won't miss that. Serious blunder by Kramnik, altough, I guess, more picturesque than anything: just to remember that even former World Champions make horrible moves sometimes.
Feb-17-08  wvkevin: How could a world champion miss 34...Kg8 or Pg5 (or 6) which are the only moves to avoid mate?! Kramnik still had 25 minutes left on the clock. Guess he was too focused on offense and his danger antenna wasn't up.
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