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Carl Walbrodt vs Adolf Zinkl
9th DSB Congress, Leipzig (1894), Leipzig GER, rd 16, Sep-14
French Defense: Classical Variation. Richter Attack (C13)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Oct-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: Position after <49...g2>:


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An interesting position. Mieses, in his book "Instructive Positions from Master Chess", gives the following win: <50.c8Q! f1Q 51.Qg4+ Kh8 52.Qh3+! Kg7 53.Rd7+ Rf7 54.Qg4+ Kh7 55.Qe4+ Kg7 56.b8Q g1Q 57.Qee5+ Qf6 58.Qxf6+ Kxf6 59.Qf4+>, winning the rook and the game.

That's too complicated for me. You can have the fun of checking it.

Oct-11-09  ozmikey: Mieses should perhaps have explained why 52...Kg7, allowing the White rook in, is forced instead of 52...Kg8; in the latter case White wins quite simply by 53. Rxf1, but after 52...Kg7 there's the nasty trick 53. Rxf1 gxf1(Q) 54. Qxf1?? Rxf1 55. b8(Q) Rb1+.

In any case, Mieses' variation looks pretty convincing to me!

Oct-14-11
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  Honza Cervenka: It is quite interesting that all this opening line including 11.f4(?) became very topical after Tarrasch vs K Walbrodt, 1894. It was played several times in 1894 Leipzig chess tournament and even Karl August Walbrodt used it as white there. Nobody noticed then that 11...Qa5 with very simple and very unpleasant threat d5-d4 leaves white in great troubles. Authority and example of "Praeceptor of Germany" was then too strong....:-D
Nov-17-15  heuristic: 5.Bxf6 is rare
6.e5 is uncommon
12...Bd7 is only game

note similarity to this game
Schiffers vs A Zinkl, 1894
(seven days earlier!)

35...exf5!

39.Nxd5?!
39.b5 Rb8 40.Kb4 f4 41.Nxd5

42.Rd1!

42...g5?!
42...Rf6 43.c4 f2 44.Rf1 Kf7

43.c4!

43...g4?!
43...f2 44.Rf1 g4 45.b6 h5

44.c5!
45.c6!
46.b6!
49.b7!

50.c8Q!
50...f1Q!
51.Qg4+!

51...Kh8!
51...Kh7? (M12) 52.Rd7+ Kh6 53.Qh4+ Kg6 54.Qh7+

52.Qh5+?
52.Qh3+ Kg8
(52...Kg7 53.Rd7+ Rf7 54.Qg4+ Kh6 55.Rd6+ (M25))
53.Rxf1! gxf1Q (M29 Nalimov) 54.Qxf1 Rxf1 55.b8Q+ Kg7 56.Qg3+ Kf6 57.Kc4 Rf5 58.Qd6+ (M39 engine)

Apr-17-20  Straclonoor: White could won the ending

Analysis by Stockfish 080219 64 POPCNT:

1. +- (43.55): 48.b7 g2 49.c8Q f1Q 50.Qg4+ Kh8 51.Qxh4+ Kg8 52.Qg3+ Kh8 53.Qh3+ Kg8 54.Rxf1 gxf1Q 55.Qxf1 Rxf1 56.b8Q+ Kg7 57.Qg3+ Kf7 58.Qd3 Rf6 59.h4 Kf8 60.Qd8+ Kg7 61.Qd4 Kg6 62.Qe5 Ra6 63.h5+ Kh7 64.Kc4 Ra4+ 65.Kb5 Ra7 66.Qe4+ Kg8 67.Qe6+ Kh8 68.h6 Kh7 69.Qe4+ Kg8

2. +- (17.72): 48.hxg3 hxg3 49.b7 g2 50.c8Q f1Q 51.Qg4+ Kh8 52.Qh3+ Kg8 53.Rxf1 gxf1Q 54.Qxf1 Rxf1 55.b8Q+ Kg7 56.Qg3+ Kf6 57.Kc4 Rf5 58.Kd4 Rg5 59.Qf4+ Rf5 60.Qd6+ Kg5 61.Qg3+ Kh5 62.Ke4 Rf8 63.Qe5+ Kg6 64.Qe6+ Kh5 65.Qd5+ Kg6 66.Qe5 Rf6 67.Qg3+ Kf7 68.Qc7+ Ke6 69.Qc8+ Ke7 70.Ke5 Rf7 71.Qe6+ Kf8 72.Kd6 Rf2 73.Qe5 Kf7 74.Qh5+ Kg7 75.Qg4+ Kf8 76.Qh4 Rf1 77.Qh6+ Kf7 78.Qe6+ Kf8 79.Qc8+ Kg7 80.Qg4+ Kf6

Tablebase draw in the game after 64.Rxf1

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