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|Dec-15-05|| ||percyblakeney: Being congratulated after a simul where he won all his games, Walbrodt meant that he really hadn't done that much since people played themselves into the loss without assistance. Walbrodt supposedly added, somewhat melancholically: "Everybody goes to ruin through own efforts". Frans G. Bengtsson, who retells the story, means that the comment has bearing on Walbrodt's own life, since he supposedly was a heavy drinker.|
|Nov-28-06|| ||BIDMONFA: Carl A Walbrodt|
WALBRODT, Carl A.
|Nov-28-06|| ||Peligroso Patzer: Not only did Walbrodt participate in the legendary Hastings 1895 tournament, his results in that event were very respectable: 10.5/21. Among other players he out-placed in the final standings were Janowski and Gunsberg, both of whom played in matches for the world championship (in 1909 and 1890-91, respectively).|
|Nov-28-06|| ||percyblakeney: One of Walbrodt's better tournaments not to have been mentioned here is Nuremberg 1896, packed with World Champion candidates. In the tournament Walbrodt won against Pillsbury and Chigorin, and drew Lasker, Steinitz, Tarrasch, Maroczy and Schlechter:|
|Sep-10-07|| ||Karpova: <Peligroso Patzer: Janowski and Gunsberg, both of whom played in matches for the world championship (in 1909 and 1890-91, respectively)>|
Janowski played for the Worldchampionship in 1910. The ten games match in 1909 was not a WC match.
|Sep-23-07|| ||laskereshevsky: Nothing personal with nobody, but for the sake of true i must say that the point if the 1909 match was or wasnt a WC match is still in dispute,...in several books and internet chess-site its possible to see both opinions showed....|
At least is a not definited matter.....
|Sep-24-07|| ||Karpova: Which books and which websites please?|
|Sep-24-07|| ||Karpova: <laskereshevsky>
I'll move the discussion to this page: Lasker-Janowski World Championship Match (1910)
|Jul-07-08|| ||whiteshark: Picture of Karl A. Walbrodt: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...|
"C.A. Walbrodt faced 60 opponents in Berlin on 9 December 1900, scoring +49 –3 =8 (Deutsche Schachzeitung, February 1901, page 57)"
Source/Full <Edward Winter> article on "Large Simultaneous Displays": http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
|Jul-16-08|| ||Karpova: Karl August Walbrodt was the first one to face the Marshall Gambit in a real game: A consultation game in Havana, 18 or 19 February 1893, against Enrique Conill, Enrique Ostolaza, López and Herrera (the four amateurs had the black pieces).|
Here's the game (I'll submit it, for sure):
[Event "Consultation game"]
[Site "Havana, Cuba"]
[White "Walbrodt, Karl A"]
[Black "Conill, Enrique / Ostolaza, Enrique / Lopez / Herrera"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5
9.exd5 e4 10.dxc6 exf3 11.g3 Bg4 12.d4 h5 13.Bg5 Re8 14.Nd2 Nh7 15.Bxe7
Rxe7 16.h3 Bxh3 17.Nxf3 Rxe1+ 18.Qxe1 Qf6 19.Qe3 Bg4 20.Ne5 Ng5 21.f4 Ne6
22.Nxg4 hxg4 23.Bxe6 fxe6 24.Re1 Re8 25.d5 Kf7 26.Qe4 Re7 27.dxe6+ Qxe6
28.Qxe6+ Rxe6 29.Rxe6 Kxe6 30.Kf2 a5 31.Ke3 g6 32.Ke4 a4 33.Kd4 Kf5 34.Kd5
Kf6 35.b4 axb3 36.axb3 Kf5 37.b4 Kf6 38.c4 bxc4 39.Kxc4 Ke6 40.Kc5 Ke7
41.b5 Kd8 42.b6 cxb6+ 43.Kxb6 Ke8 44.c7 1-0
Source: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... (C.N. 5664)
|Aug-29-08|| ||GrahamClayton: In "300 Games of Chess", Tarrasch said of the match against Walbrodt:|
"Clause 9 of the match rules stated:
The games will be played without clocks. If, however, the committee finds that the expenditure of time is excessive, it may demand that from a particular moment the game shall continue at the rate of 12 moves per hour with accumulation of unused time. Overstepping the time limit will not incur loss of the game but will give the committee the right to demand that the offending player shall make the remaining moves up until the 12th, 24th, or 36th (etc) within 5 minutes. Only if this time is exceeded will the game be counted as lost."
|Aug-29-08|| ||DoctorD: This composition by CA Walbrodt is from 777 Chess Miniatures in 3 (1908):|
White to play and mate in 3
click for larger view
A give-and-take key. I'd prefer this:
White to play and mate in 3
click for larger view
Where the knight is simply placed for capture, increasing the range of the black king.
|Nov-28-08|| ||whiteshark: Bio: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_A...|
|Nov-28-08|| ||whiteshark: 1891: Karl August Walbrodt mischt die Schachszene auf
(= 1891: KAW rough up the chess scene)
<In einem kleinen Wettkampf zwischen E.Schallopp und A.Walbrodt blieb letzterer Sieger mit fünf Gewinnpartieen bei drei Verlustpartieen und einer Remise. Der Match begann für Walbrodt äusserst ungünstig. Schallopp gewann die erste, dritte und vierte Partie, die zweite endete mit Remis, dann verlor aber der bekannte Meister fünf Partieen hintereinander gegen seinen jugendlichen Gegner.
Auch zwischen K.Holländer und C.v.Bardeleben wurde gleichzeitig ein Wettkampf zum Austrag gebracht. Holländer gewann denselben mit drei zu zwei Gewinnpartieen bei sieben Remisen.>
Quelle: Deutsche Schachzeitung Nr.8 August 1891, S.253
<Herr A.Walbrodt, welcher in Folge seines Sieges im Wettkampf mit Schallopp von sich reden machte, hat auch Herrn von Scheve zu einem Match herausgefordert. Der Kampf begann am 14.October d.J. und endete die erste Partie nach hartnäckigem Streite remis.
Der Einsatz beträgt 100 Mark. Sieger ist, wer zuerst 5 Partieen gewinnt; die ersten drei Remispartieen zählen nicht; gespielt wird Mittwoch und Sonnabend Nachmittags im Schillergarten, Bellevuestr.20.
Am 18.September d.J. gab A.Walbrodt in der Berliner Schachgesellschaft eine Simultanproduction an 20 Partieen, von denen er binnen 4 Stunden 18 gewann, 1 verlor und 1 zum Remis führte.
Ende August hat A.Walbrodt auch H.Keidanski in einem kleinen Wettkampf mit dem schliesslichen Resultat von +5 zu +1 besiegt.>
Quelle: Deutsche Schachzeitung Nr.11 November 1891, S.354
<Der Wettkampf v.Scheve - Walbrodt ist als unentschieden abgebrochen worden, nachdem jeder Spieler 4 Partieen gewonnen hatte und 2 mit Remis endeten.>
Quelle: Deutsche Schachzeitung Nr.12 Dezember 1891, S.381
Source: http://www.berlinerschachverband.de..., No. 76
|May-18-09|| ||myschkin: . . .
<Feb-06-05 sneaky pete: His first name is Karl, with a K.>
"Es bedarf nur gewisser Literaturkenntnisse, um konstatieren zu können, dass Walbrodt sich in seinen eigenen Publikationen (Berliner Schachzeitung, Internationales Schach-Journal, Schachrubrik des Berliner Lokal-Anzeigers) stets mit C - also "Carl" - geschrieben hat. Auch das Foto im Turnierbuch Hastings 1895 hat er mit <CA Walbrodt> unterzeichnet. Was der Schreiberling der DSZ buchstabiert hat, ist dagegen irrelevant."
(source: Robert Huebner, 03.02.2009)
something like: Karl Mayet ~ Carl Mayet
|May-18-09|| ||sneaky pete: I read the Hastings signature, opposite page 249 and below that of <C>arl Schlechter, as AWalbrod?, the A starting with an exuberant curl on the left, which might be mistaken for a C. |
He's not the only dummer August who couldn't spell his own name. Opposite page 120 Janowski signs D Jano<v>s?? and on the next page Chigorin as M Tchigorin<e>.
|Aug-14-09|| ||Marcelo Brasileiro: About the signature, it is written below Walbrodt's photo A. Walbrodt, the same way as the following article which I transcribe ipsis litteris from a well-known chess magazine:|
"Un inconnu M. A. Walbrodt vient de conquérir le titre de maître en gagnant un match au Cercle d'échecs de Berlin, contre le célèbre champion M. E. Schallopp par 5 parties gagnées, 3 perdues et une nule. Nous publierons prochainement les parties de ce match." (La Stratégie, 8/1891)
All the 9 match games are with the designation M. A. Walbrodt.
When I was looking for some games that Walbrodt played in 1893, 1894 and further years, the same magazine shows M. (from Monsieur) C.-A. Walbrodt.
In the German edition of the Hastings 1895 Tournament, Schallopp mentions the player's name as AUGUST WALBRODT (neither CARL nor KARL).
About Chigorin, Tchigorin, Tchigorine, I remember that Horace Cheshire in his edition of Hastings Tournament 1895 tells that TCHIGORIN (with T and without E) is the way that the own player used to translitterate his name (from the Cyrillic alphabet).
Janowski seemed to have a small displiscence signing his name: I remember that the four final letters are truncated. As he was born in Poland, let's remember that these family names are ended with WSKI; the French use WSKY, for that we find the I replaced for a Y. In Czech we find VSKY and in Russian the translitteration is VSKI or VSKIJ (J = short I).
Further questions or quotes?
|Sep-15-09|| ||Marcelo Brasileiro: I even thought on writing a biography of him if there's none existant until the present time.|
|Sep-15-09|| ||vonKrolock: David Janowski It seems that the "French", as You say, form <Janowsky>, well, actually even preceded by <Dawid>, and not <David> is preferred by historians (like Winter, for instance in his online article http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... or Ackermann - author of a monograph appeared in 2005 - this against the use in the online games' databases...) |
There was some years ago a discussion here on Schlechter's first name <Carl/Karl> , and one of my interventions then was: <"Carl, not Karl <<<(his autograph is reproduced many time in "Wiener Schachzeitung">>> - ... The forms will continue to alternate, since in the Russian texts, for instance, the "K" is imperative, and the translators usually tranlates using a K (just another source of confusion) >
|Nov-28-09|| ||whiteshark: Wie denn jetzt, <C> or <K>?|
|Nov-28-09|| ||Pawn and Two: In the Hastings tournament book, edited by Horace Cheshire, the biographical section gave Walbrodt's name as Carl A. Walbrodt. The tournament book noted: <"His hand writing is peculiar, and the scores that he handed in at Hastings were rarely complete and never legible.">|
The Hastings tournament book also had a problem with Walbrodt's signature. Each participant's signature was shown below their photograph. Below Walbrodt's photograph they incorrectly gave his name as A. Walbrodt. I believe this was caused by an incorrect reading of his signature. I note <sneaky pete> also interpreted Walbrodt's signature as AWalbrodt.
While his signature could be interpreted differently, I believe it is clearly CAWalbrodt. The letters CAW are all approximately equally large, and are in connected flowing script. The remaining letters are separately connected in smaller script.
|Jul-20-10|| ||GrahamClayton: Interesting piece from the obituary for Walbrodt in the 'New York Times, dated October 4, 1902:|
"Walbrodt's chess playing abilities were first recognised in 1890 by R Buz, who was at that time a director of the Manhattan Chess Club. Buz met Walbrodt in a Berlin cafe, and the latter won three games, conceding his opponent a knight in each. Buz learned that his young opponent was a stranger to the chess clubs of the German capital, so he introduced him at the Berlin Chess Society. Schallopp, the great German expert, was present, and a series of games was at once proposed between him and Buz's "find". The younger player won two and drew one game."
|Mar-27-12|| ||offramp: How tall was he?|
|Dec-20-12|| ||markwell: Difficult to show ambition when you come down with tuberculosis at the age of 19, dead at 31. Who writes this biographical drivel?|
|Dec-20-12|| ||The17thPawn: Yet another talent cut down in his prime much like Charousek.|
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