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Jul-29-07
 | | Open Defence: this is also a draw
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| Jul-29-07 | | zanshin: I'm going out on a limb here and proclaim this a draw. I'll set up Fritz for the Polgar game. |
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Jul-29-07
| | Open Defence: but this position .. if White has to move he can win.. Black to move draws... so the opposition is key FEN: 
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Jul-29-07
 | | lostemperor: I suddenly think, white may have something here. |
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Jul-29-07
| | Open Defence: <lostemperor> certainly worth playing on.. lots of scope for subtleties... but at the 2700+ level its probably pure technique |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Strongest Force: I was hoping for a more active black king. I dont think its healthy to let the white king have all the fun. |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: 50...Rc1+ 51 Kd7 Re1 and it is up to White to make progress |
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| Jul-29-07 | | zanshin: Excuse just one off-topic post: Motylev - Polgar (<2 mins for Motylev, <7 for Polgar):
click for larger view1. µ (-0.71): 31...Qd8 32.Qxd8 Rcxd8 33.Nf4 Rxh4 34.Rh3 Rg4 35.Rf2 Rxg5 36.Bxd5 Bxd5 37.Nxd5 Bxa3 38.Nf6 Bc5 39.Rd2 Rg1+ 40.Kc2 Kb7 2. ² (0.69): 31...Qc7 32.Nf4 Be7 33.Qf5 Nxd3 34.Qxd3 Qe5 35.Nf5 Bxa3 36.Nh6 Rxh6 37.gxh6 Bc5 38.Nxd5 Qh2 39.Be4 Qxh4 40.h7 3. ± (0.79): 31...Nxd3 32.Qxd6+ Qc7 33.Qxc7+ Rxc7 34.Nf4 Nxf4 35.Rxf4 Rh7 36.Bf3 Re7 37.Kc2 Re5 38.Kd3 Kc7 39.b3 Kd7 40.Rf6 Rxh4 41.Rxf7+ |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Jesspatrick: 50...Ke6 51.Rd6+ Kf5 52.Rf6+ Kg4 and Shredder rates this as only +0.7 White is not making progress. |
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Jul-29-07
 | | Sneaky: <Open Defence: if the Rooks were off this is a win for White... but forcing a trade looks remote> Actually even with the rooks off the board, Black still hopes for a draw--just for the sake of argument
click for larger viewAccording to tablebase White can win this with 1.Ke6! but 2.Ke5? Ke7! = So you can't ever relax in these endings until you're actually writing "1-0" on the scoresheet. These guys know this stuff like arithmetic tables. And yet, mistakes happen! |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Strongest Force: Rf1 looks forced |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: 52...Rc1 may be sufficient to draw. |
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Jul-29-07
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Black should be just fine with his passive (but well-placed for defensive purposes) King, provided he keeps Rooks on. The pawn ending would be lost in many cases. For example, 50. ... ♖e7?? would have been losing after 51. ♖d7 forcing the exchange of ♖ooks (51. ... ♔e6 52.♖xe7+ ♔xe7 53.♔c7 ♔e6 54.♔d8 ♔f5 55.♔e7 ♔xf4 56.♔f6  ). |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Ulhumbrus: 55 Ke6 threatens potentially the manoeuvre Rc4-d4-d7 in the event of ...Rf7 |
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Jul-29-07
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for stopping by today. Please note, tomorrow is a rest day--that means NO GAMES TOMORROW. We'll be broadcasting round 7 on Tuesday morning at 8:00am (USA/Eastern). See you then! |
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| Jul-29-07 | | MadBishop: Very nice game! Well done to both Grischuk and Carlsen! Thanks to everyone for the enjoyable kibitzing! |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Strongest Force: Maybe i'm bugging but i dont like the way Magnus is playing this. |
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Jul-29-07
 | | keypusher: A game both players can be proud of. |
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| Jul-29-07 | | danielridder: A draw!!!!!
This has been Carlsen his last difficult match. No doubt now he will win the tournament!! |
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Jul-29-07
| | lostemperor: <Open defence> yes this endgame looked drawish 15 moves ago, but I'm glad they played on:) |
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| Jul-29-07 | | zanshin: Game is over, so I'll make one more Motylev - Polgar post. Apparently, time trouble got to Motylev. That's it, lunch time, see you guys later:
click for larger view1.  (-2.34): 42.Rf2 Rg6 43.Ne6+ Kd6 44.Nd8 Rh7 45.Kc2 Kd7 46.Nb7 Rhh6 47.Nc5+ Kc6 48.Nxa6 2. (-2.72): 42.Kb1 Rg2 43.Ne6+ Kd6 44.Nd8 Rh7 45.Ka2 Kd7 46.Nb7 Rhh2 47.Nc5+ Kd6 48.Rb1 Rf2 49.Nxa6 Rxf6 50.Nc5 Rf3 51.Kb3 f5 52.Nb7+ Kc6 53.Nc5 3. (-2.91): 42.Ne6+ Kd6 43.Nd8 Rg8 44.Nb7+ Ke5 45.Rf2 Rf5 46.Rh2 Kxf6 47.Kc2 Rf1 48.Nc5 Ra1 49.Rf2+ Ke7 50.Re2+ |
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| Jul-29-07 | | Atking: <danielridder: A draw!!!!! This has been Carlsen his last difficult match.> He has to play on the last round Radjabov. But agree that Carlsen is now the favorite |
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Aug-03-07
| | Peligroso Patzer: <This has been Carlsen his last difficult match. [sic]> Apparently no one informed Pelletier and Van Wely that they were incapable of presenting Carlsen with any sort of difficulties in the antepenultimate and penultimate rounds of the tournament: Carlsen vs Y Pelletier, 2007 Van Wely vs Carlsen, 2007 Carlsen’s 0 for 2 against Pelletier and Van Wely makes all the more impressive the way he rallied to defeat Radjabov in the final round: Carlsen vs Radjabov, 2007, and then win a tough playoff against Onischuk. (Hopefully the games from that playoff will soon be available in the CG.com database.) |
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| Aug-03-07 | | percyblakeney: <This has been Carlsen his last difficult match. [sic]> I remember that I was just about to post what <Atking> wrote back then, that he still had to face Radjabov so it wasn't over yet :-) |
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| Nov-12-07 | | Micawbr: Well <Malthrope> You usually get these things right, BUT..... in this case ICC had it right many hours ago, like 12 or more, real time, so what's the problem? (If ICC gets it, I mean like well?? This is not ICC's strength, you know cheap labor and whatnot, so if they get it.......). It would not be fair to those that had winning bets this round to penalize them by wiping out their bets (me of course, and a few others excepted). I mean, if ICC gets it right, then give it up! There is a LONG history here at CG Bookie Game of messing up and this is another screw up on the Bookie front, whoever these nameless people are! Maybe it doesn't matter, maybe no one cares about the mess ups over the last many many months. It seems so, I don't read many complaints., ... do any of you care(you know, out there in lets play the chess buck betting game)?? So what's up?
If I am able talk to an owner, maybe I'll find out what is going on. If not, maybe no one cares, it is just a game, right? If so I apologixe for muddying the waters, if not, is there anyone out there who knows what I am talking about? Best Regards and good wishes to all,
Tom
ps. I mentioned ICC above, but does it matter? This is one instance of many of a long history of muck-ups (can I use one of the fully public approved everyday expressions here, I expect not, so muck-ups it is) with the CG Bookie games. Is it possible to just get it right? Pleazzze. All of the Chess games site is excellent except the Bookie Game. If this kind of care is going to contimue, please, just let me know. |
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