Dec-27-22
 | | fredthebear: 25.Rg1! threatens, almost traps the Black queen. If 25...QxRg1 26.BxBc6 with a fork for more.
Black's best is 25...Qf3+ 26.QxQf3 BxQf3+ 27.KxBf3 etc. simplifying as White gains an extra piece. See diagram of resulting position:
click for larger viewHad Black played 25...Qf3+, exchanging queens. |
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Apr-28-23
 | | OhioChessFan: Nice groaner of a pun. |
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| Apr-28-23 | | Brenin: Looking at the position after 10 ... Qxa1, it's remarkable that Black survived for another 15 moves. |
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Apr-28-23
 | | perfidious: I recall seeing this line for Black enjoy a period of popularity ca 1982--even witnessed a very strong player have a go--but never understood the appeal. |
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Apr-28-23
 | | HeMateMe: she lives on Luft Street. |
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Apr-28-23
 | | al wazir: Why is this game over? After 25...Qe4+ 26. Qxe4 Bxe4 27. Rxg7 Kf8, white has some more work to do for the win. Or after 27...Ke7 28. Bxd7 Kxd7 29. Rxf7+ Kc6, white is only a ♙ up, with opposite colored ♗s on the board. |
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| Apr-28-23 | | watwinc: <al wazir>27 Rd1 looks painful |
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Apr-28-23
 | | FSR: Not to be confused with <Ryder's on the Storm>. Ryder vs NN, 1899 |
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Apr-28-23
| | FSR: <perfidious> Seirawan once did a video advocating the line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvi... However, Repertoire Explorer: Yasser Seirawan (black) shows no games where he played this wonderful variation himself. |
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Apr-28-23
| | perfidious: <FSR>, the only game I recall seeing Seirawan play a Sicilian was as White (!) vs Korchnoi at Kissingen 1981, which he managed to win after many vicissitudes. |
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Apr-28-23
| | FSR: Four games where Seirawan played the Kan Sicilian as Black: https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... Eight games where he played White against the Sicilian: https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... |
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Apr-28-23
 | | Teyss: <watwinc> Indeed. That's why White played 24.Bc7 instead of another B move: Black cannot defend with Rd8. I would stupidly have played 24.Ba3 or Bb4 preventing the BK to go to e7, after which as per <al wazir> 24...Qe4+ 25.Qxe4 Bxe4 26.Rd1 Rd8 still wins but takes longer. Re. the opening, the results for White are:
After 5...Bb4 (pin variation): +48% -30% =22% (450 games)
After 6.e5 (Koch variation): +59% -20% =21% (234 games)
After 6...Ne4: +71% -17% =12% (35 games)
After 7.Qg4: +77% -10% =13% (30 games)
After 7...Qa5: +77% -8% =15% (13 games)
After 8.Qxe4+: +89% -11% =0% (9 games)
Summary: only try this line as Black if you want to baffle your opponent or if your are Seirawan's level. Or not. Decent pun, would have been better if Knights had played a bigger part. Unless <Benzol> was thinking about motorbike riders. |
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Apr-28-23
 | | WannaBe: J. Morrison is groaning on this pun. Me?! I'm lovin' it. =)) |
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| Apr-28-23 | | goodevans: <perfidious: I recall seeing this line for Black enjoy a period of popularity ca 1982--even witnessed a very strong player have a go--but never understood the appeal.> When I first came across it I took an instant dislike. Black is essentially saying "I'm going to grab some material. You see if you can find a winning attack". Definitely not my style. It does produce some fun games, though. Remember this GOTD from last year? - J Tisdall vs G D Lee, 1981 Of course, finding that winning attack isn't always easy and Black was in this game right up until he failed to anticipate the brilliant 25.Rg1! <Brenin: Looking at the position after 10 ... Qxa1, it's remarkable that Black survived for another 15 moves.> Keeping Black's Q trapped on a1 with 16.c3! might have finished things off a bit quicker. |
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Apr-28-23
| | perfidious: <FSR>, did he have a child called Essie Mae? |
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Apr-28-23
| | FSR: <perfidious> I deleted my comment so as to avoid people realizing that I'm senile. I somehow confused Strom Thurmond, the centenarian racist senator, with Gunnar Backstrom. Don't ask me how. |
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| Apr-28-23 | | stone free or die: I was wondering about that <FSR>! |
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| Apr-28-23 | | stone free or die: FWIW - I would have picked the pun <Storm-y weathered> here, not that it's better. |
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Apr-28-23
 | | playground player: I used to work the graveyard shift, getting back to the dorm shortly after dawn. Every freakin' morning the gavone across the hall would play <Riders on the Storm> over and over again and I couldn't sleep. I finally had to threaten him; then he stopped. Never been able to enjoy that song after that. |
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Apr-28-23
| | perfidious: <pgp>, good song, but I too may well have been put off it for good and all after being subjected to it following a long, sleepless night. |
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