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Viktor Korchnoi vs Anna Muzychuk
Snezenky a Machri (2009), Marianske Lazne, rd 3, Nov-30
Dutch Defense: General (A80)  ·  0-1

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Jan-19-10  I play the Fred: He is a sore loser. But he's like that to men too.
Apr-12-10  DiscoJew: Vic
La Terrible
is going bananas.
Apr-12-10  wordfunph: <I play the Fred: He is a sore loser.>

that's the best consolation of beating Viktor..

Mar-26-12  cristoff: if he lost the game against a weak opponent-A.M.- indeed he is a looser!
Mar-26-12  King Death: < cristoff: if he lost the game against a weak opponent-A.M.- indeed he is a looser! >

Is that right? Since White lost in this game to a much weaker player than Muzychuk he must really have been a loser, Fischer vs C Munoz, 1960.

Aug-02-13  Karpova: Q: What was your most embarrassing moment at the chess board?

A: <My game with Korchnoi. It was a dead drawn position and I offered a draw at some moment but my opponent continued playing and later on lost on time. After the game Korchnoi claimed that he did not hear the draw offer. We suggested that the organizers count the game as a draw as in the final position there were no winning chances for either side, but because it was a team competition the captains agreed it should be scored as a win for me. I felt really sorry about this situation.>

From the kingpin '20 Questions' series, 2013.07.19
Link: http://www.kingpinchess.net/2013/07...

Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: < Maybe Korchnoi deserved to lose for playing that donkey opening.>

With this comment, <dumbgai> lives up to his name.

Chapter 3 in 'Dangerous Weapons: The Dutch' by Palliser, Williams & Vigus, is 'Not so Dim on the Rim: 1.d4 f5 2.Nh3'.

Korchnoi is known for coming up with interesting anti-Dutch lines, such as the Korchnoi Gambit, 2.h3. This 2.Nh3 line is another -- it may transpose into the mainstream Nh3 line after g3 etc, or it may take a novel turn.

Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: <cristoff> -- <indeed he is a looser!> Anyone who spells the word 'loser' with two o's is not a winner but a whiner.
Nov-30-15  diagonal: <Korchnoi is known for coming up with interesting anti-Dutch lines>

<Domdaniel> thanks, you remember certainly the ETCC 2009, Switzerland vs. Ukraine, round 1, board 1, and very first minutes of the event: mighty Vic played (after 1.d4 f5) without any hesitation <2.Qd3> against his more than 100 ELO points higher rated and more than 50 years younger opponent Andrei Volokitin:

Korchnoi vs A Volokitin, 2009 with further comments on anti-Dutch lines; a typical Korchnoi play, full of fantasy, always willing to enter double-edged, unbalanced positions, searching for new ideas

Picture of that anti-Dutch game (gallery, photo on the right): http://www.grandcoach.com/en/studen... (Andrei Volokitin was in January 2005 Top Junior of the World and 20th overall, peak rating 2724 ELO in October 2012 as 25th ranked, recently he has lost a bunch of points)

Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: <diagonal> Yes, indeed I do recall those games. What I find interesting is that a GM as strong as Korchnoi should continually strive for new ways of playing against the Dutch. This appears to suggest that the regular main lines against the Dutch are not quite adequate. As a Dutch player myself, I tend to agree -- I score well against main lines, but some of the Korchnoi-style anti-Dutch lines cause problems.
Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: Incidentally, Moskalenko's book on the Dutch -- The Diamond Dutch, Viktor Moskalenko -- is possibly the best work on openings that I've ever seen.

Some people still refuse to take the Dutch seriously. Read Moskalenko and open your eyes.

Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: When not challenged (as Anna M. is here) the Muzychuk sisters have pioneered an interesting Dutch variation, where ...e6 (usually a prelude to either a Stonewall with ...d5 or an Iljin-Zhenevsky with ...d6) is a prelude to ...g6, and a kind of Leningrad Variation. Michael Basman tried this idea years ago, when it was named the 'Christmas Tree' variation, from the shape of the Black pawns and pieces.
Nov-30-15  diagonal: <Moskalenko on the Dutch>, in-depth book review and exploitation of further dutch and anti-Dutch lines by "Chess Mind" Dennis Monokroussos: http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/20...
Nov-30-15  diagonal: <some of the Korchnoi-style anti-Dutch lines cause problems> Korchnoi sometimes has a tendency for setting up an overextended formation in his innovations, i.e. you simply can't be superior in every sector of the board :)
Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: <diagonal> Thanks -- I hadn't seen the Monokroussos review.
Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: Monokroussos notes that the line 1.d4 f5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bf4 is absent from the Moskalenko book. There are just 8 games in this line in the CG database -- but 5 of them are White wins, with only 2 Black wins. This point is thus worth making, though I tend to avoid this variation myself by not playing 1...f5 -- I prefer to transpose into the Dutch via 1...e6 (1...g6 or 1...d6 will also suffice). Many of Moskalenko's games take the same route.
Nov-30-15
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  perfidious: <Dom> Sounds like an interesting work by Moskalenko.

I too would often answer 1.d4 with 1....e6 when I did not object to a fluid Dutch or French in the 1980s; however, later I tried the Leningrad, so would always play 1....f5.

Never saw 1.d4 f5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bf4, but the Cuban GM Reynaldo Vera played the standard 3.Bg5 against me in a blitz event at Montreal 1996, which carried on 3....e6 4.e4 fxe4 5.Nxe4 Be7, when White now failed to play the strongest continuation 6.Nxf6+ Bxf6 7.h4 and I got a good position.

Nov-30-15
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  Domdaniel: <perf> Moskalenko argues that the Dutch is fluid -- you can even reach the Leningrad formation after 1...e6 if you don't object to the 'Xmas tree' formation, with pawns on e6, f5, g6. I've tried this a few times, and I like the look of it -- if nothing else, it can confuse the White player.

I know I'm biased, but I really like the style of the Moskalenko book: he's a real writer, with style. I plan to get more of his books.

Dec-01-15
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  moronovich: One interesting/funny thing is,that after 1.d4-e6,almost no one answers 2.d4.
Dec-01-15  Retireborn: LOL. Pictures someone picking up the d4 pawn and putting it down again very firmly. "Look, I'm definitely playing d4, OK?"

Sorry :)

Dec-01-15
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  OhioChessFan: Other than the mildly interesting account of the loss on time of this game, that Kingpin interview is massively boring.
Dec-01-15
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  Domdaniel: <Retireborn> I've seen the Kingside version of the idea too -- John Donaldson, reviewing a book by Lakdawala, wrote "what the affable San Diego International Master proposes is a repertoire based on 1.e4 d6 2.e4 Nf6 " ...

If at first you don't succeed...

Dec-01-15  Retireborn: <Domdaniel>

1.e4 d6
2.e4 "it's already there"
"Don't argue with me damn you, I'm affable!"
"Er, OK 2...Nf6"

Dec-01-15
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  tamar: Against such an aggressive white player I recommend 1 e4 e5 2 e4 e5 3 Nf3 Nc6 4 Nf3 Nc6 5 Bb5 Nf6 5 Bb5 Nf6 Double Reinforced Berlin Wall
Dec-01-15
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  Domdaniel: Almost 40 years ago, in the venerable Dublin Chess Club, I heard about a character named 'Barney' who had learned chess in prison in the 1940s and went on to become Irish champion.

Supposedly, when Barney got out of jail he went to the old-school Dublin Chess Club, which then had its own rooms beside Trinity College. He began a game with a member, played 1.e4, and on seeing the reply 1...c5 he firmly returned the c-pawn to c7.

The member was a little frightened of this ex-jailbird with a dangerous reputation, so he said nothing and just played 1...c5 again. It was returned home a second time. And a third.

Only then did it come out - the rules Barney learned in jail stipulated that all games should begin 1.e4 e5. Other moves were illegal. Barney, by quietly setting the pawn back, was being polite.

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