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Sep-13-11
 | | scormus: <Once (and maybe twice)> CAESAR.
Forget not in your speed, Antonius,
To touch Calpurnia; for our elders say,
The barren, touched in this holy chase,
Shake off their sterile curse.
ANTONY.
I shall remember.
When Caesar says "Do this," it is perform'd.
CAESAR.
Set on; and leave no ceremony out
I remember this piece from school eng. lit. and I simply couldnt understand all that Lupercalian mumbo-jumbo our teacher talked about. I more or less forgot about it. Years later I was listening on the car radio to a programme about the play. This time I got the full force and nearly ran my car off the road. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | Memethecat: always nice when the answer springs off the page instantaneously, doesn't happen to me very often, so all the more enjoyable, even if it is only a tuesday POTD |
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| Sep-13-11 | | DarthStapler: Got it |
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| Sep-13-11 | | pitimutis: I started out Tuesday hopeful that the Mondayland factor so nicely put by <Once> was still in the air. After 2 minutes, I realized that the dream had vanished, and indeed all that we had in the remaining mirage was a small puddle of water (the puzzle was a bit harder than usual). I thought first about 24.♘f6+ hopefully followed by a 24...♕xf6 , so that white can go ♕d7# . If Black defended with a move like ♔e7 or ♔f7 , white can then go ♖d7 and win black's queen with tempo. Maybe I was overreaching, so I drank a cup of coffee and ate some fruit (it helps hehe) and it popped right out...the obvious move was ♖e5. Must be because it's Tuesday the 13th (which in my country, Colombia, is supposed to be bad luck. I do wonder though, if this is the case for other countries as well??? What say you guys, are Tuesdays the 13th bad luck, or is it just Fridays??? |
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| Sep-13-11 | | agb2002: White is a bishop and two pawns down.
Black threatens 24... Bd6, trying to consolidate the position. The white queen would deliver mate on d7 if her black colleague and the rook on f5 disappeared. Hence, 24.Re5: A) 24... Qxe5 25.Qd7#.
B) 24... Ke7 25.Rxe6+ Nxe6 26.Qe3
B.1) 26... Kf7 27.Rd7+
B.1.a) 27... Ke8 28.Nc5 Bxc5 29.Qxe6+ and mate next.
B.1.b) 27... Kg8 28.Nf6+ gxf6 29.Qxe6#.
B.1.c) 27... Kg6 28.Nf2 with attack (28... Rd8 29.Rxd8 Nxd8 30.Qd3+; 28... Nc5 29.Nh3 followed by Qg5+, etc.). B.2) 26... Rd8 27.Rxd8 Nxd8 (27... Kxd8 28.Qxa7) 28.Nc5+ and 29.Nxb7 in both cases with the better endgame. C) 24... Kf7 25.Ng5+ followed by 26.Rxd6 Nxd6 27.Nxe6 + - [Q+N vs R+B+2P]. Other options doesn't look better: 24.Rxd8+ Rxd8 25.Rxf8+ Kxf8 26.Qxe6 Rd1# and the same with the symmetrical line 24.Rxf8+ Rxf8 etc. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | agb2002: <scormus: ...
Yes there is. Either side could lose in a number of amusing ways. Finding them is more interesting than solving the puzzle itself.> I experience the same feeling when I tried to find a quick crush for each line! |
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| Sep-13-11 | | Patriot: I spent several minutes on this. Pattern recognition and deductive logic suggested "removal of the guard" with 24.Rxd8+ (leaving the queen en prise), followed by 25.Rxf8+ and winning the queen. But 24...Rxd8 leaves white one foot in the grave with a back rank mate looming. 25.Rxf8+?? Kxf8 (not 25...Rxf8 26.Qxe6#) and white is in serious trouble. However the simple 24.Re5 looks winning or at least best since 24...Qxe5 25.Qd7#. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | Madmartigan: David2009: I think 25...., Ke7 is answered with 26 Rxd8! instead of your 26 Rxe6+. The options are then: a. 26...., Rxd8 27. Qxe6 #
b. 26...., Qxe5+ 27. Qd7 #
c. 26...., Kxd8 27. Qxe6 with a huge advantage.
Am I missing something? |
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| Sep-13-11 | | kevin86: I not only missed this one-but did it with a twist:
24 ♖xd8+ ♖xd8 25 ♖xf8+ ♔xf8 26 ♕xe6 ♖d1# as quicksdraw used to say:ooch,ooch,ooch,ouch! The text shows an unsupported pin will do the trick-much as the famous 12 move debacle by Morphy. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | kevin86: The game was Morphy-Maurian 1855. Played in New Orleans... |
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| Sep-13-11 | | sevenseaman: <kevin86> In <24 Rxd8+ Rxd8 25 Rxf8+ Kxf8 26 Qxe6 Rd1# > you took the most popular route of the day, with one difference: you went all the way. Despair not, we do not know what a close shave it has been for many. It must have been the siren 'epaulette mate' that harkened you. |
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Sep-13-11
 | | doubledrooks: The deflection sacrifice 24. Re5 brings home the point. For example: a. 24...Qxe5 25. Qd7#
b. 24...Ke7 25. Rxd8 Rxd8 26. Qxe6#
c. 24...Rh6 25. Rxd8+ Rxd8 26. Rxe6+ Be7 27. g3
d. 24...Kf7 25. Ng5+ Kf6 26. Nxe6 Kxe5 27. Qe3+ Kf6 28. Rf1+ Kg6 29. Qg5+ Kh7 30. Qxh5+ Kg8 31. Rxf8# |
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| Sep-13-11 | | abuzic: <24.Re5 Rh6>
Other candidates:
- 24...Qe7 25.Qd7+ Kf7 26.Qd5+ Kg6 27.Rg5+ Qxg5 28.Qxg5+ Kf7 29.Qf5+ Kg8 30.Rxd8 Rh6 31.Qxf8+ Kh7 32.Qg8+ Kg6 33.Qe6+ Kh7 34.Ng5# =============== - 24...Ke7 25.Qd3 (threatening Qd7#) Kf7
<(25.Rxe6 Nxe6 26.Re1 <[26.Qe3 Rd8]> Nd4 wins but takes longer; 25.Rxd8 Rh6 26.Qh4+ Rf6 27.Rxe6+ Kxe6 28.Qh3+ Rf5 29.Rxa8 Bd6 30.Ng5+ Kf6 31.Nh7+ Ke6 32.Re8+ Be7 33.Rxe7+ Kxe7 34.Qxf5 etc.> 26.Rxe6 Nxe6 27.Qd7+ Be7 28.Rf1+ Nf4
<(28...Kg6 or Kg8 29.Qxe6+ Kh7 <[29...Bf6 30.Rxf6+ gxf6 31.Qxf6+ Kh7 32.Ng5+ Kg8 33.Qf7#]> 30.Rf5 g6 31.Rf7+ Kh6 32.Qxe7 Rag8 33.Qg5#)> 29.Rxf4+ Kg6 or Kg8 30.Qe6+ Kh7
<(30...Bf6 31.Rxf6+ gxf6 32.Qxf6+ Kh7 33.Ng5+ Kg8 34.Qf7#)> 31.Rf5 g6 >(31...Bf6 32.Nxf6+ gxf6 33.Qf7+ Kh6 34.Rxh5#)> 32.Rf7+ Kh6 33.Qxe7 Rag8 34.Qg5# =============== - 24...Kf7 25.Rxe6
<(25.Rd7+ Qxd7 26.Qxd7 Kg8 27.Qd5+ Nf7 28.Ng5 Rh6 29.Qxf7+ Kh8 30.Ne6..this will mate but takes longer)> Kg8 26.Qf5 Rh7 27.Re8 Nf7 28.Qg6 Rh6 29.Nf6+ Kh8 30.Rxa8 Nd8 31.Rxd8 Rxg6 32.Rxf8# |
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| Sep-13-11 | | novicevarun: white to play , one biship/pawn down down
Rxf8+ Kxd8 ( or Rxf8)
Rxf8+ Rxf8 ( or Kxf8)
Qxe6...
There is a threat for Rd1 or Rf1 , given this , this one does not look like feasible move. What am i missing ? lets try again .. how about Re5 ? oh! yes this is it. Re5 and black should have resigned. time to check |
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Sep-13-11
 | | chrisowen: In success found it re5 in slide after much harrowing rook takes knight d8 sac doesnt work blow queen hide antagonistic bung he jump black dead it watch in 11.f4 Nf6 in smelting the d6 roof kack handed ya fret re5 pipe line revs eskimos roll! |
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Sep-13-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Dr J> - <Since the puzzle is supposed to have only one solution, I got suspicious. (This is a standard trick for solving "unique solution" logical puzzles.)> Absolutely correct - in the world of composed problems, where a double solution is a serious esthetic flaw (or a 'cook', if unintended - some problems deliberately have a 'dual' solution, usually with a pleasing mirror effect.) But -- these are game positions set as puzzles, and the existence of more than one winning line is always a possibility. The 'no duals' principle works in composed problems (and in sudoku) but not here. Having said that, the seeming equivalence of 24.Rxd8+ Rxd8 25.Rxf8+ Kxf8 26.Qxe6 Rd1# and 24.Rxf8+ Rxf8 25.Rxd8+ Kxd8 26.Qxe6 Rf1# *is* pleasing to the eye. And a strong hint to play 24.Re5! instead. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | Once: <scormus> I find the trick with Shakespeare is to wrap your tongue around the words as if you were french kissing a python whilst gargling with honey. You've got to luxuriate in the flute music of the vowels and the bump-thump of his almost architectural consonants. This isn't linguistic fast food, it's something to be savoured, caressed, venerated. Someone opens a $100,000 bottle of wine and pours you a glass. And I'm guessing that most of us would savour every last drop. Stick your nose deep in the glass and drag in the boucquet. Roll the wine over your tongue. The full Monty. And that, for me, is how to read Shakespeare. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | sevenseaman: Good entertainment
click for larger viewW in 5
Its not easy, its not too difficult either. The best hint (which you can
see for yourself too) is that Black has mate in one. So come what may
White cannot afford to break his chain of checks.
All you got to do therefore is to find 5 good checks for White. Enjoy, you might do it too. |
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Sep-13-11
| | Domdaniel: "French kissing a python"??
No thanks, not even Monty.
It's well hidden, but you have a seriously perverse side, <Once>, old chap. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | David2009: <Madmartigan: David2009: I think 25...., Ke7 is answered with 26 Rxd8! instead of your 26 Rxe6+. The options are then:
a. 26...., Rxd8 27. Qxe6 #
b. 26...., Qxe5+ 27. Qd7 #
c. 26...., Kxd8 27. Qxe6 with a huge advantage.>
click for larger view
Well spotted- this is a much clearer win. The ever-resourceful Crafty End Game Trainer tries d. 26...Rh6! (if 27...Rxa8?? Qxe5) but White's material advantage
soon tells: 27.Rxe6+ Kxd8 28.Rxh6 gxh6 29.Qxh5 Ke7 29.Qe5+ Kf7 and White has a choice of winning plans. Crafty EGT link: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... Returning to the diagram at the end of my first post (Krantz vs Sellberg, 1974), coming back to it with a clear mind I found
45.Qe1+ to be followed by h7 winning Black's Rook. There are a few final pitfalls in the resulting QP vs PPP ending but the win is there (link repeated for convenience:http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... ) |
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Sep-13-11
| | Domdaniel: <sevenseaman> I reckon the mate will be Rxd5 supported by a pawn on c4, and the Queen has to be sacked first to remove one guard on e6. So: 1.Rxg6+ Rxh8 2.Rxe6+ Rxe6 3.Nd3+ Bxd3 4.c4+ Bxb2 5.Rxd5# Think that should work ... |
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| Sep-13-11 | | abuzic: <Good entertainment> another go: 1.Rxg6+ Rxh8 2.Rxe6+ Rxe6
-3.Nd3+ Bxd3 4.c4+ d4 5.Rd5 or Bxd4#
-3.Rxd5+ Bxd5 4.c4+ Bxb2 5.Nd3# |
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| Sep-13-11 | | BOSTER: Black king is in the net between two opened files d & f.
<Dr.J> <the clue that saved me was that these moves (24.Rxd8+ or 24.Rxf8+) are roughly equivalent>.
It looks like you invented the new rule: if you don't know where to go -to the left (Rxd8+), or to the right (Rxf8+) choose the gold middle-e file. |
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| Sep-13-11 | | sevenseaman: <Domadaniel> and <abuzic> both of you got the <correct> solution. <Dom>, with his tons of experience, has landed pleasantly a 'cook'. Great! I really admire people who give a puzzle a shot. What is life, if not unraveling a perpetual mystery! Every time one opens a page, its a revelation and a delight. We literally die when we think we got nothing to do anymore. |
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| Sep-14-11 | | darksquare67: OK, I'm going to bite. What's the deal with <chrisowen>? I've been looking for a while, and everyone just lets this go through to the keeper. |
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