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Fabiano Caruana vs Alexander Grischuk
FIDE Grand Prix Baku (2014), Baku AZE, rd 9, Oct-12
Indian Game: Anti-Grünfeld. Alekhine Variation (D70)  ·  0-1

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Oct-12-14  madlydeeply: Phone misspelled caruana. Phone always has a reason.
Oct-12-14  madlydeeply: Chana is better than irradiation.... Ghana is better than radiation... Ebola is better than nuclear war?? What?? IPhone what are you saying???
Oct-12-14
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  HeMateMe: Maybe those rumors about Carlsen's crown being in jeopardy were premature?
Oct-12-14
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  MissScarlett: Fab could have excellent chances of beating Magnus as long as the match were to be of 8 games or less. As with Karpov in the mid-70s, he evidently lacks the physical stamina for a long fight; it looks as if he could be carried away by a strong gust of wind.
Oct-12-14
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  perfidious: <plang> There was a point in the middlegame at which Caruana offered to return the extra pawn, but the resultant ending would have afforded only White chances--a tailor-made scenario for any strong master.
Oct-12-14  vkk: Lol at bandwagon fans on this site

Giy has one amazing tournament and people think he's the guy to take out carlsen

Next he has a not so amazing tournament and now he's mediocre again

Oct-12-14
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  perfidious: Ah ain't afear'd o' that there Grischuk or however y'all spells it--when this here set-to is done, Ah'll head back to Vegas and play him some o' that pot limit Omaha. The boy wants ta gamble, Ah'll be a-waitin' on 'im!
Oct-12-14  Jambow: Guys Caruana is still in front albeit with half the field now. It's not over yet but until he can keep it up long term like Carlsen naming him as the new champ is premature. Recognizing he is Carlsen's most likely future challenger is just having your eyes open.

We will put him on a weight training regime and teach him to spit and curse to satisfy <Mark>. We don't want this to be about chess and expect him to toss an opponent out of a window in a drunken rage, defy Putin or at least complain about the lighting and only then will he be a real chess player. He looks as feeble as that other guy Morphy did after all.

Grischuk put it to him in an unusual game, I think as games get into murky territory Caruana fades a bit, which would explain why Nakamura a brackish water reptile has been tough for him.

No matter he might still win this or then again maybe he wont. That is a prediction I'm willing to stand behind, Say I'm wrong I dare you!!!

Oct-12-14  Jambow: <vkk> Probably didn't notice Caruana just matched the elo of Kasparov at number 2 ever, or simply doesn't know Caruana has steadily been ascending for years. One tournament really?
Oct-12-14  vkk: <jambow>

Yes he has been imoroving and a carlsen caruana match is a strong possibility

All in saying is that his sinqufield cup result is an outlier

Oct-12-14  celsoagj: Yep, Caruana is not Carlsen.
Oct-12-14
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  tamar: But Carlsen is not always Carlsen.
Oct-12-14  Jambow: There are the polemics on both sides <vkk> You countered the polemic of Caruana is obviously better than Carlsen and will wipe him off the map with the other end of the stick that Caruana has one good tournament to his name and nothing else to base it upon.

Both of those positions are a good ways out from reality. Caruana won several top tournaments recently and was 2800+ elo world #3 before the Sinquefield cup. At the risk of being pedantic and redundant his elo is as a result of his results against the worlds best players over an extended period. Granted this peak could be a momentary blip, that may or may not be what we see at 2850, but his average elo over a year probably will keep him in no less than world #3 which is more meaningful.

When he maintains a high rating for an extended period we will know how good he really is, but have no justification to doubt he is really really good, if not Carlsen yet.

He may never catch Carlsen but if you had to pick one person with a shot at it I pick Caruana. Carlsen raised the bar and for years he was lucky it was said, nope he is just on another level period kudos to him and anyone that can beat or even equal him.

Oct-12-14  sheeraz: I don't think Caruana is at the level of Carlsen, at least not right now. However, isn't he the only person who has a decent record against Carlsen the last few years ? This is why he excites me, and why I hope Carlsen-Caruana develops into a rivalry becomes it makes for great chess games.
Oct-12-14
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  FSR: 4.dxc5 is a weird choice. 4.d5 is normal. Opening Explorer
Oct-12-14  Wavy: Caruana managed to lose a winning position. It happens even to the best of them.
Oct-12-14  SirRuthless: Feel free to provide a winning line. We'll wait...
Oct-12-14  mrbasso: But Carlsen is always Caruana, except if Caruana is Carlsen.
Oct-12-14  The17thPawn: Wow Grischuk's knight was a total thorn in white's side from move 31 through 41. It's nice when the axiomatic rules of bishops better than knights in open or semi open positions don't hold true. Of Course Grischuk had to work hard to create outposts for his knight but it was well worth the effort.
Oct-12-14
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  patzer2: The losing move seems to be 32. Kg1?, dropping a decisive pawn after the game continuation.

Instead. 32. Kf1 Rd2 33. Ra2 = appears to hold.

Oct-13-14  Wavy: Stockfish gave a lot of red moves on Caruana. Those are the moves that can be changed.
Oct-13-14  kirkow: Ludicrous. Carlsen is definitely Calsen. But then again, who is Caruana?
Oct-13-14  haydn20: Who's on move? No, Who has Black; What's on move. So White's on move? No, What's on move; White's playing Upapawn...
Nov-18-14  freeman8201: What the heck is Black playing, how to meet the anti-grunfeld gambit? I remember Leko playing e5, al a budapest, to meet Kramink's anti grunfeld opening.
May-19-15  Rama: They meet again tomorrow.
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