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| Sep-14-15 | | apexin: Looks like black missed 33.Ne5+ in his calculation. Nd3 is a nice move cutting off the queen from protecting h7 |
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| Sep-14-15 | | fisayo123: After 27. ♕e8, with their opponent in time trouble, most grandmasters would most likely have played 28. ♘e6 to consolidate white's advantage and think later. But after 28. ♕h6!!, white's attack is almost unstoppable. The only reasonable way of continuing was to try 28...gxf4 29. ♖h3 ♘h5! 30. ♖xf4 (♖xh5!? also possible) ♕g6. Going into a very difficult endgame. 30. ♗c2! followed by 31. ♘d3 was also a very nice deflection missed by Inarkiev in time trouble. Both 28. ♕h6 and 30. ♗c2 make for a decent puzzle. The former, a Sunday one, the latter, maybe a Friday one. |
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| Sep-14-15 | | engineerX: Ding Liren playing with the imagination of a human and the precision of a machine. |
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| Sep-14-15 | | notyetagm: Ding Liren vs E Inarkiev, 2015 One of the best combinations I have ever seen. |
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| Sep-15-15 | | newzild: A great game.
After 30. Bc2!, I think Black should try 30...Qxd4+ 31. Kh1 Kg8 instead of 30...Qxc2. |
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Sep-15-15
 | | eternaloptimist: Ding played a nice combo in this game & the more I play over his games, the more I like his playing style. He's 1 of the most creative & 1 of the most talented chess players in the world. I haven't analyzed this on an engine but 19...♗e2 looks like a bad decision by Inarkiev b/c the light squares became really weak (especially the b1-h7 diagonal) for Inarkiev after this move. Ding is a force to be reckoned w/ on the chessboard! |
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| Sep-15-15 | | Karne: <eternaloptimist: He's 1 of the most creative & 1 of the most talented chess players in the world. > There is a 100+ ELO point difference between the two, and clearly with those odds, even the dull Caruana would play exciting and dynamic chess. |
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Sep-15-15
| | eternaloptimist: <Karne> I'm not talking about just this game. I'm talking about Ding's games in general. He's got a 2782 FIDE rating so he's obviously a very talented chess player. |
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| Sep-15-15 | | FairyPromotion: <Karne: There is a 100+ ELO point difference between the two, and clearly with those odds, even the dull Caruana would play exciting and dynamic chess.> Do you know how many classics are celebrated worldwide, even though the winner was rated over a 100 ELO more than his opponent? From Fischer's Game 6 against Spassky, to Kasparov's Immortal, you can belittle many of them with this logic. Further, the World Cup is currently in action, and many players have defeated, and even knocked out players rated 100+ ELO above them. Finally, as <eternaloptimist> already replied, this isn't the first time Ding played exciting chess. Had you followed him, you'd have seen that he has quite an aggressive and unorthodox style, and has won brilliantly against many players rated above him. In fact he was outrated by 100+ in his career best so far: Ding Liren vs Aronian, 2013 |
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| Sep-16-15 | | newzild: Fischer's ELO rating was more than 100 points ahead of anyone else in the world in 1971-2. So, using <Karne>'s criteria, I guess that explains why his games from that period were "exciting and dynamic". |
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Sep-16-15
| | eternaloptimist: <FairyPromotion> I agree w/ your assessment of Ding. He's an amazing player & I really believe the sky is the limit for him. If he keeps playing games like his game vs Aronian that you posted & this game (which I believe he will do), he will cement his position as a legend in the chess world eventually. That game vs Aronian proves he's capable of playing some amazingly brilliant chess games. It sounds like <Karne> is a troll or doesn't know how to assess whether or not a chess game is brilliant. |
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| Dec-20-15 | | Imran Iskandar: <Karne: ...even the dull Caruana would play exciting and dynamic chess.> He has been a bit dull lately, but his previous games show that he is very creative at his best. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | morfishine: What a terrific game to end the year on! |
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| Dec-31-15 | | kevin86: Black finally gives up the ghost. Two knights won't hold up vs a queen. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | JohnBoy: <Karne> - I suggest the implication is actually reversed... Ding is rated higher because he can find such play when warranted. More of issue - how does white force the black queen from the protection of h7 if 29...gf4? |
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| Dec-31-15 | | Eduardo Leon: <kevin86> It's not just that. White is threatening to win *even more material* with 40.♕f7. And, when black moves his ♘e6, then ♖d6+ will drop like a hammer on the black king's head. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | ajile: <JohnBoy: <Karne> - I suggest the implication is actually reversed... Ding is rated higher because he can find such play when warranted. More of issue - how does white force the black queen from the protection of h7 if 29...gf4?> I don't have my computer on but after:
29..gxf4 30.Rxf4 how does Black continue?
30..Qe1+ Rf1
30..Qb1+ Rf1
Looks winning for White. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | Eduardo Leon: This is a very good game, but I don't get the pun. Anyone care to explain? |
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Dec-31-15
 | | OhioChessFan: The pun is on "Year in Review" |
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| Dec-31-15 | | Eduardo Leon: <OhioChessFan> Thanks. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | JohnBoy: <ajile> - 29...gf4 30.Rf4 Qb1+ 31.Rf1 Qe4 w/o board (strictly from diagram) I cannot see what white has gained. This was what I saw when I asked my original question. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | ajile: <JohnBoy: <ajile> - 29...gf4 30.Rf4 Qb1+ 31.Rf1 Qe4
w/o board (strictly from diagram) I cannot see what white has gained. This was what I saw when I asked my original question.> The queen gets chased around and Black ultimately loses his knight. |
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| Dec-31-15 | | JohnBoy: <ajile> - thanks for responding. I don't doubt that black is almost surely hosed. But he is a piece up and a general vague statement like "The queen gets chased around and Black ultimately loses his knight" is to me insufficient. White cannot easily get the bishop into the game, and black may have a chance to get the c8 knight to e7 and g8 (attempted in the actual game). How hard can black make white work for the win? Harder than in the actual game? That's what I want clarified. |
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Jan-01-16
 | | perfidious: <JohnBoy....(....from diagram) I cannot see what white has gained....> Nor can I: it is unclear to me that there is anything better for White than a repetition. |
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| Jan-01-16 | | ajile: Might not be perfect but gives the general idea. Black could have picked this line to fight a bit longer than in the actual game. Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit :
1.  (2.27): 30...Qb1+ 31.Rf1 Qe4 32.Rh4 Qd3 33.Bc4 Qc2 34.Ba2 Rxd4 35.Bb1 Rxh4 36.Qxh4 Nf5 37.Qh3 Qd2 38.Bxf5 Rf7 39.Bxc8 Qxb4 40.Rd1 b5 41.axb5 Qc5+ 42.Kh1 2. (2.27): 30...Qe1+ 31.Rf1 Qe4 32.Rh4 Qd3 33.Bc4 Qc2 34.Ba2 Rxd4 35.Bb1 Rxh4 36.Qxh4 Nf5 37.Qh3 Qd2 38.Bxf5 Rf7 39.Bxc8 Qxb4 40.Rd1 b5 41.axb5 Qc5+ 42.Kh1 |
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