| Sep-24-16 | | Mudphudder: Can someone explain to me how black supposedly has a rating of 2000+ here?? |
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| Sep-25-16 | | solskytz: Right - because you would certainly put up a better performance against Magnus. |
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Sep-25-16
 | | keypusher: If you'd asked me to guess Black's strength based on his first 29 moves, I'd say he was well above 2000. Then he blunders horribly on move 30. I wonder what happened. |
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| Sep-26-16 | | Mudphudder: Solskytz clearly doesn't expect much out of Magnus's opponents. Yep, it's Magnus and no one can beat him. We get it. But I would think even a 1700 player wouldn't have flat out hung that knight. |
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Sep-26-16
 | | saffuna: <But I would think even a 1700 player wouldn't have flat out hung that knight.> Yeah, and a former world champion would never walk into a mate in one. |
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Sep-26-16
| | keypusher: < saffuna: <But I would think even a 1700 player wouldn't have flat out hung that knight.>
Yeah, and a former world champion would never walk into a mate in one.> Yeah, anything is possible, but Mudphudder does have a point, sort of. Carlsen takes a pawn with his rook, attacking the knight. There's no other immediate threat. And Black...moves his king. Normally seeing a score like this I'd assume either (i) Black touched his king by accident and had to move it, or made an illegal move (ii) he lost on time trying to make a move (iii) transmission error. A number of the other players in this exhibition seemed like near beginners. I think even I would beat some of them pretty easily. But this guy has other games in the database and played pretty well here (much better than I could have done, I suspect)...until move 30. It's puzzling. |
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Sep-26-16
 | | perfidious: Black's play here before blundering his knight away was quite competent; there is no reason to believe his rating is not a reasonable representation of his strength. |
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Sep-26-16
 | | OhioChessFan: I almost commented on this yesterday. I suspect it was partly the pressure of playing MC and the attendant attention. I suspect part of it was the unusual nature of the attack, obvious as it was. How often does a Rook move to the 4th or 5th rank and attack a minor piece thereby with that many pieces left on the board? Much like the unusual Knight mate Kramnik missed, and the occasional Queen checks on h4 and a5 to win a piece in the opening, the pattern recognition might be limited due to never being experienced. Anyway, Dimitriadis
has other games here and is clearly a talented player. Michael Dimitriadis |
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| Sep-26-16 | | Mudphudder: Well if you guys are going to bring up Kramnik overlooking that infamous mate-in-one game, then nothing can be criticized ever in light of this. So does this mean we can always just accept other people's blunders as "oh @#$% just happens"? If that were the case then why even have kibitzing on this page...? |
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Sep-27-16
| | keypusher: < Mudphudder: Well if you guys are going to bring up Kramnik overlooking that infamous mate-in-one game, then nothing can be criticized ever in light of this.
So does this mean we can always just accept other people's blunders as "oh @#$% just happens"? If that were the case then why even have kibitzing on this page...?> The point of bringing up Kramnik's blunder is to show that it's dumb to try to figure out someone's strength on the basis of one move, however horrible. No one is saying that 30....Kg7 wasn't an awful, awful move. But there are other games in the database by this guy, not to mention the first 29 moves of this game, that show he's a much better player than that single move indicates. Also much better than other Carlsen opponents from the simul, like this guy. Carlsen vs Emil Hartveit, 2016 Work on your reading comp. |
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Sep-27-16
| | saffuna: Sure he blundered badly, a case of blindness. But that doesn't prove he's a bad player. Every great player has played a terrible losing move at some time. |
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| Sep-27-16 | | Mudphudder: Keypush - of course it can be criticized. This was a simul where Carlsen was under the time pressure more than his opponents. In my opinion and flat out dropping this knight (without any hidden tactics) is highly uncharacteristic of a FIDE 2000+. It's all opinion of course. But thanks for the reading lesion LOLLL. Saff - I never said he was a bad player. Now you're putting words in my mouth. I was just surprised at his rating was all. |
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| Nov-30-16 | | mburch1974: To be fair, psychologically speaking, sitting face to face across the board from the current world chess champion would make most mortal chess players crumble irrespective of rating. So give him a little credit. If I were judged by my worst move I'd be rated like -500 ELO and most likely quit chess altogether. |
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| Nov-30-16 | | sachman19: my rating is 1023 |
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