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Nino Maisuradze vs Alexandr Fier
"Battle of the Sexes" (game of the day Sep-13-2025)
Tsaghkadzor Open (2017), Tsaghkadzor ARM, rd 1, Nov-23
Bird Opening: From Gambit. Lasker Variation (A02)  ·  1-0

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Feb-20-18  whiteshark: Video-annotated by 'agadmator': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0...
Feb-20-18  whiteshark: That awkward moment when your wife plays <1.f4> against you & crushes you in 23 moves!
Jun-13-18
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  FSR: I wonder what motivated Maisuradze's choice of 1.f4 against her husband. This is the only game in the database where she played 1.f4, and also the only game where her husband faced 1.f4. Did she know that her husband liked From's Gambit, and consider it dubious?
Jun-13-19
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  GrahamClayton: A corrrespondence game between husband and wife:

C V Henri vs J S Henri, 1981

Feb-28-22
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  FSR: Battle of the Sexes.
Mar-01-22
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  fredthebear: Mr. Fier cannot be too bad of a player:

Alexandr Fier: Overall record: +332 -139 =276 (62.9%)*

Magnus Carlsen: Overall record: +740 -275 =811 (62.7%)*

Mar-02-22
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  perfidious: Put Fier up against 2700+ opposition all the time and <fredthebore>'s point--that he is, in some small way, superior to Carlsen--ceases to exist. In one big hurry.
Mar-02-22
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  fredthebear: You need educated again <perfidouche>.

Slow down, read this: <Mr. Fier cannot be too bad of a player> Yes, that was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, given that Mr. Fier is a grandmaster.

Magnus Carlsen is far and away the world's best player of his era (the massively inflated rating system is akin to MLB playing w/a juiced baseball, shrinking the strike zone, and re-setting homerun records), but MC does get careless, as you do.

Mar-02-22
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  perfidious: <fredthebore: You need educated [sic] again....>

Seems to me we know who 'needs educated'.

Hahahahaha!

Mar-02-22
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  fredthebear: You certainly have a way of making my casual point standout, not that it needed your assistance. Just don't try to hold my paw.
Mar-02-22
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  keypusher: <perfidious> <FTB> I wish you guys could get along a little better, because I like you both. Also, dispute seems not quite fair to inflict on Ms. Maisuradze and Mr. Fier. I've done worse, of course....
Mar-02-22
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  perfidious: Wish I could recall which line I wound up in with the only time I had the From accepted, in an online blitz game with Rohde. We finished up in a rook ending, with White having an extra pawn; believe it was 3-2, all on the same side. He got me, same as the other two times we met.
Mar-03-22
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  fredthebear: You've been on my favorites list for years <keypusher>, as are the gentlemen who posted at the top.

Ps is a cruel ambusher; he wishes that I'd write more to give him more material to criticize. When I'm insulted and/or misrepresented, I respond. He should have just made his Michael Rohde comment in the first place and left me out of it.

Mar-03-22
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  keypusher: Also, <perfidious>, although you like to kid about how bad you are, in truth I do not play chess anywhere near as well as you, so take what I say for what it is worth, but I've enjoyed <FTB>'s chess coaching posts, and learned from them. Chess is a sea in which a gnat may drink and an elephant may bathe, as the saying goes.
Mar-03-22
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  perfidious: <keypusher>, nowadays who knows how it would go if I ever took up the cudgels again?

As to those posts: fair enough. At least they are not strings of Stockfish analyses, which elevates things a notch or three already. Whatever the strength of the player, I much prefer to see ideas--however bad--behind the posts. Those long computer analyses generally leave me cold.

Signed, life 1200 player

Sep-13-25
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  offramp: The From Gambit is very dangerous. White's best choice is to play 2. e4.
Sep-13-25
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  perfidious: <offramp: The From Gambit is very dangerous. White's best choice is to play 2. e4.>

Played 2.e4 with both colours rather than accepting the gambit.

Sep-13-25
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  FSR: I've played From's Gambit many times, with great success. Many years ago, I even beat fpawn (Michael Aigner) with it in a blitz game. A few of my games: https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... ; NN vs F Rhine, 2025 ; https://denverchess.com/games/view/... ; https://denverchess.com/games/view/... ; https://denverchess.com/games/view/... ; Others have also had the joy of slaughtering their opponents with From's Gambit. Game Collection: How to Lose Quickly to From's Gambit.

Most of my games with From's have been blitz or offhand games, usually against players who had no clue. I once played it in a tournament game. As I recall my opponent was rated 1677. He basically Fool's Mated himself. P Napetschnig vs F Rhine, 1977. I repeated that game a few days ago in an online blitz game.

Sadly, I don't think From's is good, and would be afraid to play it in a tournament game these days, or to play it against anyone I thought had prepared against it. Cyrus Lakdawala told me he has a student who plays 1.f4 in the hope that his opponent will play From's Gambit. He's beaten a lot of higher-rated opponents who've taken the bait. Around 2019 Peter Svidler said that he had recently played From's and was surprised to have a lost game after ten moves.

But apparently it's not quite as bad as I thought. Stockfish 17.1 says that after 9...Nc6 (rather than Fier's 9...Bf5) 10.c3 Be6 11.Nd2 f5 12.Bg2 Qe7 13.O-O Qh7 14.Bxc6+ bxc6 15.Rf2 a5 16.c4 O-O White has around a +0.5 advantage. It should be mentioned that 4...Nf6 is also possible, and probably better than 4...g5. But White is still better. There's no good reason to accept a disadvantage against 1.f4?! After the normal 1...Nf6 or 1...d5, Black is better, around -0.2.

Sep-13-25
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  perfidious: <FSR....It should be mentioned that 4...Nf6 is also possible, and probably better than 4...g5....>

Believe I played 4....g5 5.d4 g4 6.Ne5 Bxe5 7.dxe5 Qxd1 in the aforementioned loss to Rohde.

Sep-13-25
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  offramp: A Bird's Opening (A02) from Australia is a <From From Down Under>...but you can't end a sentence in a preposition.

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