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Magnus Carlsen vs Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
Tata Steel Masters (2019), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 6, Jan-18
Queen's Gambit Accepted: Classical Defense. Main Lines (D27)  ·  1-0

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Jan-18-19  cormier: it should be <29.Nbc5> because both Ns can jump there
Jan-18-19  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4 d 22 dpa done

1. = (0.00): 44...Kd4 45.Bxb5 e3 46.Kf1(T) Ra1+ 47.Ke2 Ra2+ 48.Kf1 Ra1+

2. = (0.00): 44...e3 45.Bxb5 Kd4 46.Kf1(T)

Jan-19-19  OrangeTulip: Chessgames: 29 moves are invisible. How come?
Jan-19-19  JustAnotherMaster: Just another Magnusifacant game.... Always in awe when these clowns predict that the GOAT is gonna draw and especially enjoy these idiots predicting he is lost ;)
Jan-19-19
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  offramp: <cormier:
1. = (0.00): 44...Kd4 45.Bxb5 e3 46.Kf1(T) Ra1+ 47.Ke2 Ra2+ 48.Kf1 Ra1+

2. = (0.00): 44...e3 45.Bxb5 Kd4 46.Kf1(T)>

What is the (T)?

Jan-19-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: <PGN: download | view | print> etc., click on "view" under the diagram and observe the . behind 22...b5. I wonder what or who put it there.

Some future editor or Olga version will fix it.

Jan-19-19  WorstPlayerEver: Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Jan-19-19  hoodrobin: 30.Nxd7+ is the best (not played).
Jan-19-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: Shak found a 20 move winning line for white and resigned early? That's pretty classy.
Jan-19-19  ChessHigherCat: <offramp: <cormier:
1. = (0.00): 44...Kd4 45.Bxb5 e3 46.Kf1(T) Ra1+ 47.Ke2 Ra2+ 48.Kf1 Ra1+ 2. = (0.00): 44...e3 45.Bxb5 Kd4 46.Kf1(T)>

<What is the (T)?>

T is used for 2. Don't tell me you haven't heard "T for 2 and 2 for T" before?

Jan-20-19  frankumber: where are the rest of the moves??
Jan-20-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Yuridmi: On 18Jan19 <Cormier> provided this Kibitzing comment: "it should be <29.Nbc5> because both Ns can jump there." I applied Cormier's correction in the .pgn text for the game (replacing Nc5 with Nbc5 on White's 29th move), and fed it into my Chess computer (Shredder 12) ... And voila! It cleared up the problem with all those missing moves. So -- that one notation error caused chess software all over "Chessgames.com" to choke and stop after 29 moves. Thank you <Cormier>
Jan-20-19
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  chancho: I submitted a game correction slip the day before yesterday.
Jan-20-19  pdxjjb: 7 ... b6 had only appeared 13 times before in the database and black had never lost with it.

Which proves again the old adage that bad opening play can certainly hurt you, but even good opening play isn't enough to beat Magnus Carlsen.

At least I think it's an old adage.

Jan-22-19  fabelhaft: Four days after the game finished and still only some of the moves in one of the rare decisive games between 2800+ players in what surely is the tournament of the year.
Jan-22-19  Qindarka: Is something weird going on? I can see the full game score whereas I’m seeing lots of complaints about it.
Jan-22-19  fabelhaft: <I can see the full game score>

I can see up to move 22 with the default game viewer.

Jan-22-19  Howard: So, where's the rest of the game ?!
Jan-22-19  disasterion: <Howard> If you change your pgn viewer from the default to, for example, pgn4web, you can see the rest of the game; though there are still a few glitches (eg white's 29th should be Nbc5).
Jan-22-19
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  Sargon: Sorry guys, Olga still needs a bit more refinement in a couple of areas. It even has some "undocumented features" which make it more difficult to make corrections to games, when it's the default viewer on the page.

And I guess we're going to have to remove all the Java-based viewers from the dropdown—CVD2 was pretty much MY favorite, if I recall—inasmuch as virtually none of the modern browsers support Java out of the box anymore, and most of them can't even be configured to...

Jan-22-19
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  Sargon: <fabelhaft: Four days after the game finished and still only some of the moves in one of the rare decisive games between 2800+ players in what surely is the tournament of the year.>

All the moves were/are there, but there's an "undocumented feature" with the Olga viewer that we need to "document"...

Jan-23-19
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  Check It Out: Finally I can look at this game. Yes, I could have gone to another website to see it, but I didn't. Call me a masochist. Go ahead, try it.
Jan-24-19  john barleycorn: <Check It Out: ... Go ahead, try it.>

Masochist. I will ask <harry> to punish you badly.

Jan-27-19
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  Check It Out: Lololol
Jan-30-19  cormier: <<<<<<<<Jan-19-19 ChessHigherCat:> <offramp:> <cormier:> 1. = (0.00): 44...Kd4 45.Bxb5 e3 46.Kf1(T) Ra1+ 47.Ke2 Ra2+ 48.Kf1 Ra1+>

2. = (0.00): 44...e3 45.Bxb5 Kd4 46.Kf1(T)>>

<What is the (T)?>>

i use it here for the word> <Transposition> ... ths>

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