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| Oct-29-04 | | AgentRgent: Anyone care to offer any analysis of the game? |
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 | | tpstar: <AgentRgent> Nice game! Interesting opening where both sides get out of book. That b Pawn was hanging for a bit; what were you planning after 8 ... cb instead? 18. Rfb1 was nice, compelling the trade, then your Discovery 22. b5! was decisive. Fine Knight maneuvering at the end. Your opponent let his Kingside development lag too long, or maybe could have kept his King in the center and tried ... h5 & ... h4 mixing it up. Congratulations! |
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| Oct-29-04 | | AgentRgent: <tpstar: That b Pawn was hanging for a bit; what were you planning after 8 ... cb instead?> 8. g3 was my invitation to a reversed Benko Gambit. I play the Benko as Black, and it is even better with White. My opponent knows I play the Benko and has seen me win several games in the Reversed, so I suspected (correctly) that he'd not want to allow it. |
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| Oct-29-04 | | AgentRgent: Another interesting thing about this game is that my opponent had previously only played 1...g6 against 1. Nf3, so I'd spent 90% of my time studying for that, then he springs the advance. Fortunately for me a friend of mine plays the advance and I have a blue-jillion games against it under my belt. |
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| Oct-29-04 | | acirce: <AgentRgent>
14.Nfxd4! would have been a nice tactical finesse based on Bf4 tricks.His 18..Bxb4 looks strange to me, voluntarily opening up the a-file to your advantage. I don't see why that was necessary. After 22.b5! all that remains is mopping up. All in all a fine game, well-played and pretty thematical from what I can tell. |
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| Oct-29-04 | | AgentRgent: <acirce: 14.Nfxd4! would have been a nice tactical finesse based on Bf4 tricks.> WOW! 14. Nfxd4 Bxd4 15. Nxd4 exd4 16. Bf4 Qd8 17. Bxb8 Qxb8 18. Qa4+ Nc6 19. Bxc6+ bxc6 20. Qxc6+ Kf7 21. Qd5+ Be6 22. Qxd4 I never would have seen 14. Nfxd4 in a million years. |
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| Dec-02-04 | | EnglishOpeningc4: What about 1 ♘f3 d5 2 b4!? a little weird but not unsound (Santasiere's Folly is its name I think) |
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| Dec-02-04 | | drukenknight: Okay okay, I confess I used to play this opening a few years ago and made some notes. THe following is typical of the stuff I would get from ICC, vs amateurs, (they elect to build a pawn mass), and is not meant to show the best line, but many sorts of tactics white can try when things go his way.... 1. Nf3 d5
2. c4 dxc4
3. e3 b5
4. a4 c6
5. Nc3 Bd7
6. axb5 cxb5
7. Nd4 Qb6
8. Nd5 Qb7
9. Qf3 Bc6
10. Nxc6 Nxc6
11. Ra6 Rc8
12. Nb4 Nd8 |
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| Dec-02-04 | | drukenknight: A quick check reveals that 3 e3 and this sort of black response is not really seen a lot at higher levels. THe very first Reti in the data base (from 1895, corr.) gives 3...c5 in response. Euwe would play that, for instance. Keres played 3...e6 on several occasions. In the 60s Donner and then miagmasuren played 3...Nf6 and black has done well in many variations. |
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| Dec-02-04 | | drukenknight: OH I should mention Fine tried, 3...g6 but this sort of Freudian, Oedipal complex, is not recommended. ANyhow, the pt. is that most players on ICC, for example, will play 3...b5 and build up a pawn mass. You can build your repetoire based on this starting pt. Two other caveats to the above line. Black will often kick the N w/ ...b4 and black should try to get ...e6 in way earlier than the above. So you have to work these sorts of lines out by inputting different moves for black and then working out the response for yourself. THere are many other finer pts. such as black getting that KN out to e7 where it can defend the q side better. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: A better Reti. Again with the e3 version of this but a little sharper play by white has the 2 Ns hitting the black Q: 1. Nf3 d5
2. c4 dxc4
3. e3 b5
4. a4 c6
5. axb5 cxb5
6. Nc3 Bd7
7. Nd4 Qb6
8. Qf3 (better than above line)
8... Bc6
9. Nd5 (not sure if this is best, this might be a pt of divergence for computer programs) 9... Qd8
10. Nxc6 Nxc6
11. Nf6+ Nxf6
12. Qxc6+ Nd7
13. Qxb5 I think it favors white |
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| Dec-07-04 | | azaris: <drukenknight> In your line, 7. ♘e5! is better and most likely already winning. It's similar to the QGA where Black tries to keep the pawn, but succumbs to the weak a8-h1 diagonal and threats on f7. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: Umm, I think when I played this I never could decide on which was better. It is worth looking into because many amateurs will try to hold the c pawn, even if most masters wont. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | AgentRgent: DK, why play 3. e3 at all? 3. Na3 wins back the pawn and gives the knight a great outpost on c4. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: The drunk knight move? Are you kidding? Never. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | AgentRgent: I'll agree that it looks odd, but in this case it's very effective. Take a look at the #s. After regaining the pawn, white will have two pieces developed, better pawns, and can fianchetto the Kings bishop for a wonderful game. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: Agent: No less than ALekhine, Keres, Dake, Petrosian, Smyslov, Geller and Tal have all played e3 from white side. Here is Petrosian stumbling through it w/ smyslov. Petrosian vs Smyslov, 1959 |
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| Dec-07-04 | | whiskeyrebel: That's right! I prefer 3.Na3 too if black captures the C pawn. The knights are well posted at C4 and F3. If black chooses to further chase the C4 knight with 3...a6 4.Nxc4 b5 white can pull his knight back to e3..fianchetto his Kings bishop, etc. A true "hypermodern" hardcore freak won't mind the odd placement of knights at e3 and f3 since the idea is to hold back central pawn pushes until later in the game anyway. Incidentally, a better set up for black is seen in Botvinnik vs. Fine 1936: 1Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Na3 c5 4.Nxc4 Nc6 5.b3 f6 6.Bb2 e5 7.g3 Nge7 etc. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: Did you not see that ICC game I posted vs. that lunatic who plays it like Reti? WHere the heck did that go? There are at least two different places to post for Reti on this site...Durn, let me go find my notes.. |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: Yeah okay. [insane person vs DK, ICC blitz, 2004]
1. Nf3 d5
2. c4 dxc4
3. Na3 Be6
4. Ng5 Bd5
5. e4 h6
6. Nh7
imagine looking at that about 45 seconds after you start down to play. Go ahead try to push some w/o using computer, it gets funnier |
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| Dec-07-04 | | AgentRgent: DK 4. Ng5 is just bad. Just because your opponent was a patzer doesn't mean 3. Na3 is bad. Try 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 cxd4 3. Na3 Be6 4. Qc2 |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: did you see the continuation of the game? straight question. Now I see your Nimzovitch avatar, which confirms several things I was thinking.... Oh by the way. I HEREBY DECLARE DECEMBER AS RETI GAMBIT MONTH!! |
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| Dec-07-04 | | AgentRgent: <drukenknight: did you see the continuation of the game? straight question.> Do you mean do I see how black should continue? 6...Bxe4 7. Nxf8 Qd5! Would seem good for Black |
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| Dec-07-04 | | drukenknight: agent. slow down, read what I am typing. I am talking about a line I posted a week ago, now I cant seem to find it...hold on there... |
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| Dec-07-04 | | AgentRgent: <drukenknight: Now I see your Nimzovitch avatar, which confirms several things I was thinking....> I'm not exactly sure what you mean... |
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