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| May-23-16 | | luftforlife: <hemy>: Thanks for that; I have it now myself. |
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| May-23-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab>: Do you have the entire game-score for Privonitz-Konrad? If so, and if it's not too much trouble, would you please post it? It would be good to have one of A.H.'s final games. I'll do more research in the meantime. Thanks. |
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May-23-16
 | | Tabanus: <luft> I'll send it home from my work computer, try to put the moves into ChessBase, and post the game here. In a day or three. The picture is fine, and bigger than I've seen before on CG. |
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| May-23-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab>: Sounds great. Thanks for your kind words, and for all your help. Yes, the photograph is remarkable, and shows A.H. Privonitz off to great advantage. His delightful smile shines. I admire him his natty dress, especially his footwear: he is stylishly attired and well-shod, and he makes a pleasant appearance and a gentlemanly impression. <Die schönsten kurze Gamaschen!> |
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| May-23-16 | | hemy: One more game Privonitz - Herbert Heinicke, 1930.
Hamburger nachrichten, Nov 26th 1930, page 16.
Dietrich Memorial Tournament in Barmbek-Uhlenhorst chess club.[Event "Dietrich Memorial, Barmbek-Uhlenhorst"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1930.11.??"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Black "Heinicke, Herbert"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A46"]
[PlyCount "76"]
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 d6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Bg5 h6 5. Bf4 Bg7 6. Qd2 Nh5 7. Be3 c6 8. h3
Be6 9. O-O-O Qa5 10. Kb1 Na6 11. a3 b5 12. Na2 Qc7 13. Ne1 Nf6 14. f3 Qb7 15.
Nd3 Nd5 16. Bf2 Nb6 17. e4 Nc7 18. Nf4 Bc4 19. b3 Bxf1 20. Rhxf1 a5 21. Nd3 O-O
22. Nb2 Rfc8 23. Be3 Kh7 24. f4 f5 25. Qd3 e6 26. g4 Rf8 27. gxf5 exf5 28. Rg1
Rae8 29. exf5 Rxf5 30. Rg3 Ncd5 31. Bd2 Qf7 32. Rdg1 Re6 33. c4 bxc4 34. bxc4
Nxf4 35. Bxf4 Rxf4 36. Nc3 Rxd4 37. Qc2 Nxc4 38. Nxc4 Rxc4 0-1 |
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| May-23-16 | | luftforlife: <hemy>: Thanks! I will include this with my upload-submissions of A.H. Privonitz's games. Best regards. |
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May-24-16
| | Tabanus: The game score she sent may not be by him. Look:
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "195?.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Privonitz"]
[Black "Konrad"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qa4 a6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Nd5 Bd7 7. Qc4 Nf6 8.
Bg5 Be7 9. Nf3 O-O 10. a4 Be6 11. Bd3 h6 12. Bh4 Rc8 13. h3 Na5 14. Qd4 c5 15.
Qc3 Bxd5 16. O-O Be6 17. Rfe1 Nc6 18. Rad1 Qa5 19. e5 Qxc3 20. bxc3 dxe5 21.
Nxe5 Nxe5 22. Rxe5 Rc7 23. Be2 g5 24. Bg3 Rd7 25. Rf1 Rfd8 26. f4 Nh5 27. Rf3
Bd6 28. Re4 Bd5 29. Ree3 Bxf3 *
click for larger viewAt this point, score continues with the impossible 30.Bxh5. And 15.Qc3? and 25...Nh5? 27.Rf3? I see no alternative reading of the moves before that either. |
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| May-24-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab>: Thanks very much for posting what you have. Thanks too if you had to transcribe from descriptive notation, or from non-standard algebraic. I've found handwriting difficult to decipher (and typesetting too, for that matter). Also, if this was played over-the-'board, perhaps the moves were incorrectly notated on the scoresheet. I don't doubt your judgment; certainly your analysis is correct. Reconstruction may not be possible. It was an intriguing lead; if the game can be reconstructed, that's great, but if not, no worries. Thanks again. |
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| May-24-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab>: Looks like this may have been Palamedes (94) v. P-onderom-eter (137) (Arthur Privonitz-Konrad Peter): http://www.athenae-gottingenses.de/.... |
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May-24-16
| | Tabanus: <luft> Heh, yes. But I don't understand it. |
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| May-24-16 | | luftforlife: "A match on 50 boards between Middlesex and Essex was played on February 22nd at the Mecca Café, Ludgate Hill, London, and won by Middlesex by 34½ points to 15½. Essex lost 4 points owing to absentee players. The following game, the finish of which is very pretty, was contested at Board 11. The winner is quite young, and has recently joined the West London Club." The British Chess Magazine, April 1913, 151.
[Event "Middlesex-Sussex Fifty-Board Match"]
[Site "Mecca Café, London"]
[Date "1913.02.22"]
[EventDate "1913.02.22"]
[Board "11"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "A.H. Privonitz"]
[Black "S. Sheppard"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Bc5 4. O-O Nge7 5. Nc3 O-O 6. d3 a6 7. Bc4 Ng6 8. Be3 Ba7 9. Nd5 Bxe3 10. Nxe3 Nce7 11. c3 c6 12. d4 d5 13. exd5 cxd5 14. Bb3 e4 15. Nd2 Kh8 16. f3 f5 17. fxe4 dxe4 18. Qh5 f4 19. Nxe4 fxe3 20. Ng5 h6 21. Rf7 Bf5 22. Qh6+ 1-0 |
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| May-24-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab>: It is hard to characterize exactly the Schlaraffia Athenae Gottingenses. I have read and read, yet the organization (through its online scribe) is willfully cryptic in describing itself. Its explanation of what it's not is reassuring, but purposefully fails to explain just what it is. Near as I can figure, it's a fraternal drinking club, in which the male members consume alcoholic beverages and bond in intellectual communion and participate in wholesome rituals that celebrate antiquity. There's a hierarchy, and there are nicknames, many drawn from Greek mythic and historical sources, and it all seems to be done in good fun. It seems not at all decadent or sinister in its secrecy -- just lovably goofy, really: a way to blow off some steam and spend some quality time with the guys (maybe while wearing togas). This is just a supposition based on supportable inference, but perhaps Arthur Privonitz was a convivial man, and enjoyed socializing with his confreres in the SAG, and, not long before his death in 1953, he played a game of chess with one of them, Konrad Peter. Certainly Palamedes's blunders bear no resemblance to A.H. Privonitz's pellucid, penetrating play from his previous years, and so perhaps his illness and the passage of time had taken their toll on his Caïssaic sensibilities (or perhaps he played the game after imbibing); and so it seems this friendly yet uncharacteristically plebeian encounter from his own endgame days is best left off the annals of his earlier, nobler, and laudable achievements, which were more reflective of his true chess talents and his genuine (if admittedly not Olympian) aptitude for the sport at which he excelled. |
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| May-24-16 | | hemy: Correspondence game A.H.Privonitz-Frantisek Batik (Czechoslovakia), 1930-1931 on page 3 of Estonian newspaper "Nool Tartu", March 21st 1931. [Event "correspondence"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1930.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Black "Batik, František"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D05"]
[PlyCount "65"]
1. d4 c5 2. c3 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. e3 Nc6 5. Nbd2 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bd6 7. dxc5 Bxc5 8. b4
Bd6 9. Bb2 O-O 10. O-O b6 11. a3 Ne7 12. c4 Ng6 13. e4 dxe4 14. Nxe4 Be7 15.
Qc2 Bb7 16. Rad1 Qc7 17. Rfe1 Nxe4 18. Bxe4 Rac8 19. h4 Rfd8 20. h5 Rxd1 21.
Rxd1 Nf8 22. Bxb7 Qxb7 23. h6 gxh6 24. Ne5 Bg5 25. f4 Bxf4 26. Qc3 f6 27. Ng4
e5 28. Nxf6+ Kf7 29. Nd5 Ne6 30. Qh3 Nf8 31. Qf5+ Kg8 32. Qg4+ Ng6 33. Qe6+ 1-0 |
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May-24-16
| | Tabanus: <luft> I read it was re-founded in 1947, that most of the members are 50+, and that it's a society for men only, for "art, friendship and humor". I also read that before the war, in the 1930-ies, a man was excluded from the NSDAP because of his SAG membership. |
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| May-24-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab>: Your description of post-WWII SAG is illuminating, and concords with and amplifies my own limited understanding. I know it was all-male, and devoted to art, friendship, and humor, but the other details are new to me. Good to read that in the thirties, SAG membership meant exclusion from the NSDAP; if the two organizations were immiscible in mission and in deed, perhaps the reverse was true, too. |
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| May-24-16 | | luftforlife: <hemy>: Thanks for the games! Great sources! Happy to learn more about the Schachmeisterturnier des Gaues Hamburg; courtesy of <sachistu>, we have tournament-victor Herbert Heinicke's win with the Black pieces over A.H. Privonitz (from your generous submissions, we see he gave Privonitz trouble on more than one occasion), and now we have A.H. Privonitz's win over Schneider, which ends with a delicious relative pin and simultaneous neutralization of Black's passed a-pawn. Clearly, Privonitz maintained his over-the-'board capabilities into the 1930s. |
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| May-24-16 | | hemy: Hamburger nachrichten, March 24, 1929, page 8.
game Privonitz-Woebl, Hamburg Chess Club tournament.
[Event "Hamburger Schachklub"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1929.03.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Black "Woebl"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A50"]
[PlyCount "57"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 Bg7 4. g3 b6 5. Bg2 Bb7 6. O-O O-O 7. Nc3 c5 8. d5 d6
9. e4 Nbd7 10. Qc2 Ng4 11. h3 Nge5 12. Nd2 g5 13. f4 gxf4 14. gxf4 Ng6 15. Nf3
e5 16. dxe6 fxe6 17. Ng5 Qe7 18. f5 Bd4+ 19. Kh1 Bxc3 20. bxc3 exf5 21. exf5
Nde5 22. Bd5+ Bxd5+ 23. cxd5 Kh8 24. Ne6 Qh4 25. Qg2 Qc4 26. Bh6 Rg8 27. f6
Rgb8 28. f7 Nxf7 29. Rxf7 1-0 |
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| May-24-16 | | hemy: Hamburger nachrichten, March 28, 1929, page 9. Game Priwonitz-Kjös.
28 Bundesfest des Niederelbischen Schachbundes, Hauptturnier A1. [Event "Niederelbischen Schachbundes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1929.03.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Black "Kjös"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D05"]
[PlyCount "35"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. e3 d5 4. Bd3 Nbd7 5. Nbd2 Bd6 6. O-O O-O 7. e4 dxe4 8. Nxe4 Nxe4 9. Bxe4 h6 10. c4 Nf6 11. Bc2 c5 12. b3 Qc7 13. Bb2 Rd8 14. d5 Be7 15. Qd3 exd5 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qh7+ Kf8 18. Rae1 1-0 |
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May-25-16
| | Tabanus: Mail from Dr. Privonitz yesterday:
"Thank you for all this information. It is amazing to learn so much about him." I think she knows little about chess - but told her that more games will be added. |
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| May-25-16 | | hemy: <Dr. Privonitz>I sent by email a picture of A.H.Privonitz playing with Ewald Kapfer to <luftforlife>. I have also a caricature of him published in "Hamburger Nachrichten" and will send it as well. I guess it can be transferred to you. In January 1927 was held Hamburg district (Free Association of the chess clubs of Great Hamburg) 1927 championship hosted by "Schachklub 1871". 1. Ewald Kapfer (Schachklub 1871)
2. A.H.Privonitz (Hamburg Schachklub)
3-5. Taube (Barmbek-Uhlenhorst), Schneider (Barmbek-Uhlenhorst) and Kranki (Hamburg Schachklub) |
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May-25-16
| | Tabanus: <hemy> I sent you a mail (if I read your address correctly), and can forward the pictures to her. |
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| May-25-16 | | hemy: One more game from 28 Bundesfest des Niederelbischen Schachbundes, Hauptturnier A1. Hamburger Nachrichten Apr 2nd, 1929, page 16
[Event "Niederelbischen Schachbundes"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1929.03.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Brende"]
[Black "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D04"]
[PlyCount "46"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nbd2 Bf5 4. e3 e6 5. Bd3 Nbd7 6. O-O Bd6 7. Bxf5 exf5 8.
c4 c6 9. cxd5 cxd5 10. b3 O-O 11. Bb2 Qe7 12. h3 Rac8 13. Rc1 Ne4 14. Nxe4 fxe4
15. Nd2 f5 16. f4 exf3 17. Qxf3 Nf6 18. Rxc8 Rxc8 19. Qxf5 Qxe3+ 20. Qf2 Bf4
21. Rc1 Rxc1+ 22. Bxc1 Ne4 23. Qxe3 Bxe3+ 0-1 |
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| May-25-16 | | hemy: In my post Arthur Hermann Privonitz (kibitz #99)
the name of the player was misspelt, because of similarity of Old German Gottic letters "b" and "h".
The player's name is Erich Woehl, not Woebl (as it was automatically translated).
The references to this player:
http://www.365chess.com/players/E._...
Woehl
http://www.edochess.ca/players/p731... |
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| May-25-16 | | hemy: In May 1929 A.H.Privonitz made a draw against Heinrich Wagner in "vorkämpfer turnier" (champions tournament) in Hamburger Schachklub. Heinrich Wagner played for Germany in 4 Chess Olympiads:
In 1927, at fourth board in 1st Chess Olympiad in London (+4 –3 =8);
In 1928, at first board in 2nd Chess Olympiad in The Hague (+3 –0 =13);
In 1930, at first reserve board in 3rd Chess Olympiad in Hamburg (+8 –1 =5);
In 1931, at third board in 4th Chess Olympiad in Prague (+4 –1 =9). The game Privonitz-Wagner was published in Hamburger Nachrichten May 22nd, 1929, page 18 [Event "vorkämpfer turnier"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1929.05.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Black "Wagner, Heinrich"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A39"]
[PlyCount "48"]
1. Nf3 c5 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. g3 Bg7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O Nc6 7. d4 cxd4 8.
Nxd4 Qb6 9. Nb3 d6 10. Be3 Qd8 11. h3 Be6 12. Nd5 Re8 13. Nd4 Bxd5 14. cxd5
Nxd4 15. Bxd4 Nd7 16. Bxg7 Kxg7 17. Qd4+ Kg8 18. Rfc1 Qb6 19. Qc3 a5 20. a3 Nc5
21. b4 axb4 22. axb4 Rxa1 23. Rxa1 Na6 24. Rb1 Nc7 1/2-1/2 |
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| May-25-16 | | hemy: In daily newspaper "Reichspost" Vienna, Austria, January 29th, 1933, on page 23 published short correspondence game
Privonitz-Kurt Rattmann.
[Event "correspondence"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1929.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Privonitz, A.H."]
[Black "Rattmann, Kurt"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B25"]
[PlyCount "27"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nge2 d6 6. d3 Nf6 7. O-O O-O 8. Bf4 Bd7 9. Qd2 Re8 10. h3 Qa5 11. Bh6 Bh8 12. f4 Red8 13. e5 dxe5 14. Bxc6 1-0 Position after 12...Red8? was published as "Exercise #3" in book of Mark Lanin "Chess: tactics master games", "InTime" corporation, Boston, 2011
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The solution is published on the page 96 of this book under "Answers to Exercises #3", "6.Discovered attack, #1 Privonitz-Rattmann" |
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