I'll pop a note in over at the Bistro for <Monsieur Defuse>...

And thanks for the reminder <Tab>. I thought I did a quick search already, but I'm so out of practice I don't trust myself fully, just yet.

Today I'm going through an <anno> search on:

<"perenyi schach"~200>

(the ~200 trick forces the search words to be within 200 words of each other)

Seems thin, once again. Still, I think I got a hit providing some info -

https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/...

The 2nd paragraph of the Feuilleton seems to indicate that Baron Perenyi had already died by 1857. Can a German speaker confirm?

" ... durch seine [= Johann Baptist Allgaier ] Schüler, deren bester, der Baron von Perenyi, ebenfalls schon vom Feld des Lebens verschwand, ... "

Following this particular paragraph - where the author enjoyed 'playing' with different terms (Bühne des Lebens, Schachfeld), it's correct to assume that the subject had already passed before the date of the writing/publication.

Plus, at first glance the present games should have been taken from Daniel Harrwitz 's edits in 'The Family Friend' magazine, London.

Initial/vague traces ...

Title of nobility:
Freiherr von .../Baron ...
https://austria-forum.org/af/Austri... https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron...

Occupation:
k. k. Kämmerer und [Honorär-] Hofsekretär
(Allgemeine Zeitung. Nr. 73. Augsburg, 13. März 1840)

Resident i.a.:
Teinfaltstraße 66, Wien,
next to Graf György Apponyi
http://cityabc.at/index.php/Rosenga...
https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/v...

Place of birth (*?)
https://castles.com.ua/chopivka.html

https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/BLK%... https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/BLK%...

Linage:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korol...
https://www.scientiadenique.net/fil... (p. 87)

etc.

Zsigmond Perényi (brother?) is a dazzling figure in the Hungarian Revolution of 1848. Did Ladislaus have had a similar faith, if any? We will see ...

<Z4all> the games are from the JWD. As <login> mentioned, some games have been published in "The Family Friend" - for example:

Harrwitz vs Ladislaus von Perenyi, 1851 see: https://books.google.com/books?id=S...

<Harrwitz spells Perenyi as Perigny> which complicates the search for sources...

Ludwig Bachmann, section IV of his second volume from 'From Past Times' (game 162 p.283-284), give for Ladislaus von Perenyi vs Harrwitz, 1851 the year 1852 & the 'British Chess Review' 1854 as source.

see: https://www.schachbund.de/files/dsb...

'British Chess Review' 1854 <Harrwitz v Baron Pereny> p. 92-96

https://books.google.com/books?id=A...

<Jean> - special thanks for the sources. I originally found the <Family Friend> source, also, which piqued my interest in the player.

OK then, this leads to another question - <CG> lists the games as <match> games, but on what basis?

The <Family Friend> just lists the one game, sans context, while the <BCR (1854)> source just says:

<<>"Games played at Vienna, between the Baron Pereny, and the Editor."<>>

Usually some sort of an agreement between the players prior to play.

In comparison to a series of encounters where the players are basically engaging in casual games.

So, what exactly is a "set match"?

Here is a snippet of information about Ladislaus von Perenyi from a magazine that <Jean Defuse> showed me. The brief description prefaces this game, which is also given in the text: L von Perenyi vs W Hanstein, 1846

<"Per?nyia was one of Vienna's best chess players in the 1930s and 1940s. He had an even, calm manner of playing, rarely engaging in complications. He was able to keep the benefits achieved and take advantage of them (L. Bachmann: Aus vergangenen Zeiten, II. 297)">

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<He was able to keep the benefits achieved and take advantage of them>

<Nosnibor> yes quite right- 1830s and 1840s, thank you for the correction!

This is the relevant passge in the original Magyar text:

<Perenyi a 30-as ?s a 40-es ?vekben B?cs legjobb sakkoz?i k?z? tartozott.>

<Z> do you think they will ever be able to fix the coding problems?

Did you hear any feedback from the very specific coding hints you provided the admins earlier this week?

<1. Why isn't cg.com hiring you?>

Political differences perhaps!?

(Of course, my command premium might have something to do with it.)

<2. Did you hear any feedback from the very specific coding hints you provided the admins earlier this week?>

Steve put it on his bug list on his profile page, I suspect that's about as close to a reply as I'll get.

stevemcd87 chessforum (item #3)

I did spend a bit of time digging down on it, and I still think I identified the bulk of the problem.

<3. <Z> do you think they will ever be able to fix the coding problems?>

Fixable in what sense?

Of course the specific problem is technically fixable, as it was introduced during the upgrade.

One wonders however why it isn't already fixed, as all the posts affected during this period are permanently corrupted in the DB (as I'm pretty sure the utf-8 info has been lost). This implies that the problem should get fixed asap, if not stat (statim).

But what about the generic coding problems?

It's tough to inherit a bone-yard of old code and maintain it, let alone improve it. Especially when the old features and functionalities are unfamiliar. Let's acknowledge the difficulty of the task firstly.

Nonetheless, there seems to be a differential rate problem - in fixing certain problems, or introducing certain improvements, new errors are unknowingly introduced. The main problem here is a lack of a proper debugging framework, including dedicated testers in a non-production environment.

<Z> Thanks for such a detailed response.

<Z> Do you remember User: klangenfarben ?

He might have left before you came.

Like you, he was well versed in the world of computer code.

Like you, shortly after he came on the scene he began making suggestions to <Daniel> on how to update the code for <cg.com>.

Like you, he was ignored.

Unlike you (thank GHOD), he left because of this. I was in contact with him at the time, and he told me point blank that he was going to send <Daniel> an email ultimatum that was so rude that "he will be forced to update the code or ban me forever."

Predictably, he was indeed banned, though he himself wanted to go unless his demand was met. He moved all his (valuable) chess history work over to chess.com, where he joined other extremely valuable expats such as <Batgirl>.

When you came on to the scene, I noticed the similarity immediately between you and <klangenfarben>. I remarked on this in an email to <Daniel>, in which I said something like "<zanzibar> is similar to <klangenfarben>, but more polite."

<Daniel's> response to me was "More like a thousand times more polite." Sadly, he did not include any indication that he was willing to entertain your ideas on how to update the site code.

And there it was left, and what is the upshot? The current chaos.

Worry is a human condition.

<Z> A marvelous article, thanks for posting it.

https://theconversation.com/why-we-...

A month ago on the chessgames.com forum I revealed that I'm a techie, Susan posted asking me if I'm looking for a job, I said I'd respond if they sent me their requirements. I heard nothing further.