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| May-08-17 | | zanzibar: What is this site? - it's new to me...
http://chichess.wikia.com/wiki/Sidn... |
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| May-08-17 | | zanzibar: BTW - his was the first, and only, game to finish on the first day of the Anglo-American Cable Match (1899): http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstra... . |
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| May-08-17 | | zanzibar: And if you want a little more coverage of that match: https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a... . |
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May-08-17
 | | MissScarlett: <That good old stoop, <MissS> has just 14 games; while not noting that game 11 is missing...> I'd pondered putting out an APB on that game, but considering the historic levels of apathy on this site, I couldn't be bothered. <The electronic Marshall claims that two games are missing, so G10 somehow found its way onto <CG>> I found game 10, but since this was prior to the routine practice of adding source tags, I don't remember where. I note the <Electronic Marshall> was last updated in 2002. Another vanity chess project dies a death. Better to join the immortals here on <cg.com>. |
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| May-08-17 | | zanzibar: <MARSHALL WINS THE MATCH Marshall, of Brooklyn, won the match against Johnston, of Chicago, as played in the Chicago Chess Club on Sunday, by winning his seventh game. The day before Johnston had won a game, thereby tieing Marshall's total number of wins, and the final score therefore was: Marshall 7; Johnston, 6; drawn, 2. Johnston played an Evans Gambit on Saturday, and won after seventy-eight moves, while the final game on Sunday was a Queen's Gambit declined, won by Marshall after thirty moves.> <NY Tribune 1900-01-23 p8> |
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May-09-17
 | | Pawn and Two: <zanzibar & MissScarlett> Hilbert's book, "Young Marshall", includes the game scores for all 15 games in the Marshall - Johnston match. Game 11 was won by Johnston in 34 moves. Hilbert provides the first 17 moves for this game, and indicates his source as the "Chicago Tribune", Jan. 10, 1900. |
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May-09-17
| | MissScarlett: < Hilbert provides the first 17 moves for this game, and indicates his source as the "Chicago Tribune", Jan. 10, 1900> Danke. Submitted. |
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| May-09-17 | | zanzibar: <Pawn and Two> many thanks, as always - a very helpful fellow. Always good to know the actual sources - having the specific date allowed me to locate the source square away - http://archives.chicagotribune.com/... It's in the column just to the left of the <Victims of Shooting Known> article (p6 c2). |
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| May-09-17 | | zanzibar: <<MissS> Danke. Submitted.> Hopefully you included the proper <Source> this go round, plus the proper <Stub> tag in the PGN. Right?
(The <Stub> tag is used to denote an incomplete score (movelist) - according to the new standard.) . |
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May-10-17
| | MissScarlett: <Hopefully you included the proper <Source> this go round, plus the proper <Stub> tag in the PGN. Right?>
Wrong. Yes to the <Source>, but I prefer the protocol <curley bracket.../xx(if known)curley bracket result}>. So game 11 ends: .../34 1-0. See S I Groen vs Alekhine, 1923 |
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| May-10-17 | | zanzibar: <MissS> Yes, I agree that such info also needs to be included as a comment. The PGN still needs the <Stub> tag as a formal convention to codify the info so that software can parse it out. The trouble with comments is that they're free-form - so that info can be polluted/diluted/omitted all too easily. For ZanBase games I tried to use @ character as a delimiter in the comment for such occasions - e.g. <@stub - ...>
This stuff might sound arcane - but it's really essential for accuracy. . |
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| May-10-17 | | zanzibar: Although, <MissS>, the comment < {.../23} > might be a little too concise even for me. * * * * *
<CG> nerd info - to get curly braces use } and { in the comment. (I won't tell you how to get & to show up as & in the above (lookup HTML entity).) |
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May-11-17
| | MissScarlett: I've said it before, and I'm saying it again - I contend that the man in the picture above is an imposter! |
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| May-11-17 | | zanzibar: <MissS> you might be right - but there does seem to be a resemblance to the guy in the line drawing I posted in my blog. Who found the photo above?
Maybe it's from here:
http://chessreader.blogspot.com/201... Who, although anonymous, seems to be pretty trustworthy when it comes to early mid-West chess history, at least from my experience. . |
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| May-11-17 | | zanzibar: Gettyimages has this - but without ID or comment: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos... . |
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| May-11-17 | | zanzibar: Oh, and congratulations are in order:
<Announcements are out for the wedding of Sidney P. Johnston, chess editor of the Chicago Tribune, to Miss Alice J. Evans, to take place Oct. 29. We tender our congratulations.> Checkmate - Monthly Chess Review v2 (1902) p35
https://books.google.com/books?id=0... |
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| May-11-17 | | zanzibar: Oh, sorry, gettyimages does identify him, and gives a little more on his "background"! http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n... . |
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| May-11-17 | | zanzibar: 1st Anglo-American Cable Match (1896) (kibitz #1) has a link to another line drawing portrait of him. |
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| May-12-17 | | JimNorCal: The sleeves on his suit look ... rather odd. Perhaps a style at that time. Thin at the shoulder, puffed at the wrist. |
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May-12-17
| | MissScarlett: Another pic of Sidney Johnston, from 1899: http://archives.chicagotribune.com/... Is it possible that in five years, he could go from looking like E.G. Marshall of <Twelve Angry Men> fame (https://s.ytscdn.xyz/assets/images/...) to looking like John Fielder (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DK_UE4p0c...) of <Twelve Angry Men> fame? |
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May-12-17
| | Pawn and Two: <zanzibar & MissScarlett> In John Hilbert's book, "Young Marshall", he provides an illustration of Sidney Paine Johnston, from the "Brooklyn Eagle", Feb. 27, 1899 (p.12). |
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| May-12-17 | | zanzibar: <Pawn and Two> no comment about how that photo matches the one above? . |
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May-12-17
| | Pawn and Two: <zanzibar> I think there is considerable resemblance, but there is also more difference from what I expected, when comparing the illustration from 1899, and the photo from 1904. Of course, Johnston's illness may have had some bearing on the fairly rapid change in his appearance. It would be helpful in making a determination, if someone could find another photo or two of Johnston from the period between 1899 and 1904. |
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May-13-17
| | MissScarlett: Here's a pic published in 1902:
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/197... True, the hairline is inexorably receding, but the face retains its noble cast. |
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| May-13-17 | | zanzibar: Thanks <Pawn and Two> and <MissScarlett>. His pronounced cleft in the chin in <MissS>'s 1902 photo, that's hard to detect in the photo above, struck me. I always wished that <CG> would allow a photo gallery feature, when we could post various photos for a player - viewable upon request. That would be especially useful for players who start young. . |
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