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Aug-20-09 | | nescio: <Marmot PFL: [...]he or a she?> The IAAF is right to be very careful about this. In the past the careers of Ewa Klobukowska and Foekje Dillema were ruined by the same kind of nonsense. |
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Aug-21-09
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: The IAAF hasn't handled this case well at all. They've allowed it to gain way too much media attention (and haven't been very polite in their statements; the IAAF president said "we're going to make her prove she's a woman" - isn't the onus on anyone trying to prove she's not? Well at least he didn't say "we're going to make him prove he's a woman"...). Indeed - hopefully not - her career could be ruined by this nonsense even if she's in fact as female as your mother. I think she may be somewhere between the genders. The people closest to her all swear she's female. But having heard her speak (and of course seen her run) I just cannot fully agree... <nescio> Add Santhi Soundarajan to the list of athletes whose careers were ruined by gender tests. Apparently s/he attempted suicide at one point, guess that counts as "ruined"... Interestingly, 800m runners (Soundarajan, Semenya, Mutola, Jarmo, even Jelimo) seem particularly prone to not-woman accusations. |
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Aug-21-09 | | Blunderdome: How does the IAAF define 'male' and 'female'? Even for biologists (not to mention sociologists), there are many who fit neither category. |
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Aug-21-09 | | Whitehat1963: Jarmila Kratochvilova anyone?
http://srocespodogona.blox.pl/resou... |
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Aug-21-09
 | | Troller: Helmut Pfleger experimented with braindrugs once. He lost (against Mecking? Najdorf?), explaining that he felt strangely 'unworried'in the game. He is a doctor of course, so he knew what he was doing, but it was no success. |
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Aug-21-09 | | whiteshark: <Troller> Here is the Pfleger drug game you mentionend:
Spassky vs H Pfleger, 1979 |
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Aug-21-09 | | whiteshark: It should be said that he only made a one-time medical self-experiment on the influence of drugs (beta blocker) during a chessgame. |
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Aug-21-09 | | nimh: Human body contains two types of muscle fibres: slow and fast ones.
Perhaps Bolt is one of a few of those who has 100% fast fibres? |
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Aug-21-09
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: Bolt has the talent to run a 400 as incredible as his other records but I'm not convinced he has the will. Training for, and running, the one-lap <hurts>. I don't think he'll be the one to take Johnson's 43.18 down. (But since nobody else is running 43.18 either at the moment, global success in the 400 should he pick it up again would be quite possible.) |
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Aug-21-09 | | achieve: Bolt will get bored with the landslide wins in the one- and twohundreds. With his passion for running (can he do anything else?) I can not imagine him <not> moving up to the 400M - he's too young to rest back. |
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Aug-21-09 | | nescio: Running a fast 400 m is as much a mental as a physical excercise. The buildup of lactic acid in the muscles gives a runner the feeling of running up against a wall. Not everyone is able to overcome that. I remember I had the speed (200 m in less than 23 seconds), but not the speed endurance (400 m never below 55 seconds). |
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Aug-21-09 | | Marmot PFL: <Troller> That does not surprise me at all. Long ago I was on anti-depressant meds and lost about 150 rating points. It didnt bother me though, nothing really did. I felt like a robot. Probably Plfeger's game just confirms that a certain level of stress is needed for motivation. |
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Aug-21-09 | | Marmot PFL: <Blunderdome> Do they do chromosome tests? I have heard of Kleinfelders syndrome (XXY) but have no idea if that if the case here. |
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Aug-22-09 | | Blunderdome: Chromosomes would be one way to do it, but there will still be intersexed people. The problem is that biological sex is not a perfect binary, but there are only two categories of events. IAAF wants her to prove she's a woman, but have they said what a woman is? |
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Aug-27-09 | | chessmoron: Woolalala...Bolt wants to try the long jump.
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/be... |
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Aug-27-09 | | Marmot PFL: If Carl Lewis can do it why not? Maybe he could take up hurdles after that. |
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Aug-27-09 | | Jim Bartle: Long jump I can see, but not hurdles. Bolt's big advantage must be the length of his stride, but he couldn't really take advantage of that in hurdles as you have to come down and then take three steps no matter what. Now if he could somehow do it with two steps... |
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Aug-27-09
 | | TheAlchemist: I suggest he goes straight to the decathlon. |
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Aug-27-09 | | NakoSonorense: He should take up swimming and challenge M. Phelps! |
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Sep-10-09
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: Back to Semenya for a second, more info now out on her (?). If this article is correct, she's somewhere between genders as assumed and certainly male enough she should never have been allowed to compete with women.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp... |
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Sep-11-09
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: Back to Bolt. You'll recall the rumors that his training partner Daniel Bailey tested positive at or before the World Champs - those were (as previously reported here) officially denied but have been refueled by the fact he hasn't competed since. Luckily for Bolt's credibility though, it appears the reason for this probably isn't a still-hiding doping scandal at all; he's just too busy being adored by Antiguans. http://antiguasunonline.com/index.p... |
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Sep-13-09
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: Now for those who want to cry 'doping' without any hard evidence, here's something. Carmelita Jeter of the USA just clocked a stupendous 10.67 at the IAAF World Athletics Final. Looking at the wind readings, this is actually on par with any of Flo-Jo's marks (the official 10.49 WR in reality had something like +6m/s behind it, rather than the +0.0 officially given). After a non-remarkable career she had a major breakthrough in '07 at age 27 and has taken another leap up this year at age 29. The only women to have ever ran faster are Florence Griffith-Joyner and Marion Jones. All of the above would sound suspicious to quite many. In fact, Jamaicans have been calling her "Carmelita Cheater" for quite some time now. As nearly always though, actual evidence is lacking and what people (mostly Jamaicans - the Jamaica-USA mud throwing goes both ways) try to pass as such is quite unconvincing.
"She has built up a lot of muscle lately" - well, PEDs could do that, but someone who'd develop to 10.67 <cleanly> would also almost necessarily have gained a lot of muscle. Who are we to say one can't gain extra muscle without drugs? And claims of "masculinity" are best ignored. A worrying point for those who'd like to believe in sprinting being cleaner now is that it's not just one Bolt-type freak dropping superb times. It's many, both males and females. And if even one of them is a cheat - well, that doesn't mean everyone else is, yet it means that not only the tests are beatable (which admittedly they practically always are, to new super-drugs not particularly similar to any old ones) but that they are being beaten. Make your own opinion. |
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Sep-13-09
 | | Open Defence: hey <Switching> I have a 1.b3 game I would like you to look at but your forum is closed... where would you like me to post it ? |
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Sep-13-09 | | NakoSonorense: Good biography. |
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Jun-07-18 | | Nosnibor: Played Graham in the Paignton Open in September 2001. Our round 5 game was drawn but because of time trouble I do not hold the full score of the game. Perhaps he can advise after move 33 of the last 17 moves. It was a very double edged game. |
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