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Subu Subramanian

Number of games in database: 11
Years covered: 1968 to 1981
Last FIDE rating: 2135
Overall record: +6 -5 =0 (54.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.

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SUBU SUBRAMANIAN
(born Aug-02-1943, 82 years old) United States of America

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Alfred Hulmes vs S Subramanian 0-125196869th US OpenA65 Benoni, 6.e4
2. S Subramanian vs A Saidy  0-136196869th US OpenB94 Sicilian, Najdorf
3. J F Shaw vs S Subramanian 0-121196869th US OpenE91 King's Indian
4. S Subramanian vs R G Harshbarger  1-045196869th US OpenB28 Sicilian, O'Kelly Variation
5. Browne vs S Subramanian 1-048196869th US OpenA07 King's Indian Attack
6. E Nash vs S Subramanian 0-118196869th US OpenC18 French, Winawer
7. S Subramanian vs G Simms  1-033196869th US OpenB88 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
8. V Seglins vs S Subramanian  1-045196869th US OpenC01 French, Exchange
9. S Subramanian vs D Fritzinger 0-1381973Paul Masson OpenB06 Robatsch
10. A J Goldsby vs S Subramanian 0-119198182nd US OpenC17 French, Winawer, Advance
11. S Subramanian vs J Kastner  0-124198182nd US OpenB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
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Kibitzer's Corner
Sep-23-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: There's a Marvel comic about this guy.
Jan-01-06  weisyschwarz: No, that's Submariner, his brother.
Jan-07-06  blingice: I knew someone whose last name is Subramanian...
Jan-07-06  Averageguy: This guy played a good game.
May-10-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: This player's actual name is unclear.,

I am inclined to think his last name may be <Subramaniam>, ending in "m" instead of "n". That is the form used in USCF rating lists at the time, and the crosstable for the 1968 US Open published in "Chess Life".

USCF's current Member services Area provided no help.

The "New York Times" (August 15, 1968) does use "S. Subramanian", but their brief reports often have definite mistakes and misspellings.

Since he was from California, I checked CalBase, I found both forms for the last name, plus the first name also showed up as "Sabu" and "Suba" in addition to "Subu". Augghh.

As I mentioned, I feel that "Subramaniam" is correct, but I don't feel comfortable submitting a change request. Are there any other thoughts out there?

May-10-15  Sacsacmate: <PB> There are 2 surnames - Subramaniam as well as Subramanian. Perhaps people with the former surname are numerous....

If I may throw my 2 cents in, in absence of specific information...let it remain as it is....he could well be Subu Sunramanian.

May-10-15  Murky: I used to play chess with Subu in the cafes around Berkeley California. His last name, as I remember hearing it, was 'Subramanian', I checked the web site of the Mechanics Institute chess room in San Francisco, and they spell it exactly as listed here. No final 'm' on his last name.
May-10-15
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  Phony Benoni: <Sacsacmate> <Murky> Thanks for the your thoughts. Personal knowledge is always the best information, so there is no need to request a change.

I'm not surprise USCF would have it wrong. They had an incorrect version of my name for years, and it's almost impossible to screw that up.

May-11-15  TheFocus: <Phony Benoni> <I'm not surprise USCF would have it wrong. They had an incorrect version of my name for years, and it's almost impossible to screw that up.>

So you're not David Mondy?

Good to know.

May-11-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Phony Benoni: <TheFocus> They had the wrong middle initial. And it was probably du to my chronically poor penmanship. I once got a tax refund check made out to <Dawd Moody>.

Thank Goodness for Notepad!

Jul-02-21  Paint My Dragon: Well, six years on and this is still confusing.

Bearing in mind Phony Benoni's first impressions above - that Subramania<m> had been used in a contemporaneous tournament report and USCF rating list - I would add that Richard Shorman's contemporary newspaper articles (1967-79, see Chessdryad.com) consistently concur with that spelling.

And yet, FIDE seem to have him (USA, born 1943, Elo ~2200) as S Subramania<n>.

Even more confusing, when looking back at the FIDE contemporaneous rating charts, there is an SC Subramania<m> of India, also rated around 2200 and playing in a similar time period. Could almost be the same player. Perhaps an Indian attending college in the US?

Strangely, these ratings only start in the late 1980s, even though the American player had regular encounters with the likes of Grefe, Biyiasas, DeFirmian etc in the 1970s, and you would imagine would have picked up an Elo rating along the way.

Furthermore - Shorman's articles consistently give his first name as <Swaminathan>, and it seems likely to me that he adopted the nickname <Subu> used here in the Chessgames article.

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