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| Oct-04-06 | | samsal27: <We'll see him at MTel Masters 2007 for sure> Perhaps the next WCC if he crosses 2700?:) |
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| Oct-04-06 | | TheGladiator: <skiskichess5: Something that amazes me is that there are so few posts on this page. People go on and on about how bad FIDE has been for this and that ... like the chaos in Elista ... but don't seem to care at all about the Afromeev situation.> I care, and I care a lot, but what do you do?
If FIDE did its job, Afromeev should have been wiped from the rating list long ago. Still, Afromeev represents a minor problem (which should be easily fixed, for instance the way they handled Crisan), compared to the all so common cheating with norms (IM, GM) by quite strong players. I don't know about elsewhere, but in Europe some eastern countries (and specific organizers) are particularily infamous for assisting ppl that want (or "need") norms. I'm not at all surprised by Afromeev's origin, as ironically this kind of tampering is overrepresented in ex-Soviet states, including Russia. While Russia have a grand and proud history of chess, they also have a grand but not so proud history of corruption, dating back to before the inception of FIDE's current rating system. |
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| Oct-04-06 | | skiskichess5: <TheGladiator> Thanks for your comments. ..but what amazes me is that his position in the top 100 is so blatant...in the face Perhaps if people wrote to FIDE and compared it with the Crisan situation something might be done...I could try that. |
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| Oct-05-06 | | AlexandraThess: <mojoXX: <Alexandra> I was reading your profile and I was surprised to see that you like playing the KID, which is very sharp. I understand you using the caro-kann against e4 since you like position play. Why not play QID, Nimzo, or even QGD, which are more positional in nature?>
The reason for playing KID is very simple :) When I first started preparing theory at the age of 14, King Indian was the first openening that I came across. It sounded mysterious and I bought a book about it. Later when I became better I switched to more calm systems but my first love towards KID still remains! |
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| Oct-06-06 | | mojoXX: <Alexandra> If you were preparing theory at age 14, you must be pretty good by now. You don't have to tell me but I'm thinking that you have a FIDE title by now or you have achieved norms toward one. I went to Greece a few years ago and I really enjoyed myself. I have an interest in classical studies and I was awed by Athens (I believe it's time that the Elgin marbles were returned to Greece). I also travelled from the Piraeus to Santorini. Perhaps someday I'll visit again and see more of mainland Greece. |
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Oct-06-06
 | | Tabanus: <TheGladiator> I found your answer on the Negi page, and here, interesting. Thanks! If I ever get unemployed again, like I was for 6 years 8-14 years ago, I might dig into this. Now, unfortunately, I do not have the time! <skiskichess5> Good luck :) For lack of other sources, the following was provided by <keypusher> as the FIDE organization chart: http://www.abcgallery.com/B/bruegel... Kirsan at lower left. |
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| Oct-12-06 | | skiskichess5: news from fide !!! |
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| Oct-12-06 | | skiskichess5: There isn't any...got no reply to my message enquiring about Afromeev situation |
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| Oct-12-06 | | skiskichess5: Amazing coincidence,
1. http://www.fide.com/ratings/id.phtm... 2.
http://www.fide.com/ratings/id.phtm...
I wonder if these matching rises to fame are in any way related ? If they are I think we should be told ? |
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| Apr-09-07 | | skiskichess5: Afromeev is still in the top 100 but two quarters now without any games ... maybe he'll drop out soon Perhaps someone has taken him aside and had a gentle word ... |
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| Jun-30-07 | | TheGladiator: <Afromeev is still in the top 100 but two quarters now without any games ... maybe he'll drop out soon> Don't delude yourself - now he's on it again. 14 games versus 1900-2200 players, all played in Tula, 14 wins, and he gains 14,4 points for a new record of 2642. But this time there is a blatant mistake in the rating report! In the round robin he played, he met 2 unrated opponents, and these should NOT be rated against a rated player like Afromeev - so he doesn't even know the rules for rating reports AND FIDE didn't even correct this mistake, or disqualify the rating report... Technically: the tournament had 14 players, of which 2 were unrated. For rated players, games against these 2 are NOT supposed to be rated. Still, Afromeev (and all the other players) are put with n=13, indicating 13 games against rated opponents - which is untrue. An arbiter must be really incompetent not to know this, and FIDE's competency doesn't exactly shine either, accepting such results. |
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| Jun-30-07 | | TheGladiator: I just sent this letter to Mr Abundo and the chairman of the FIDE rating committee, DeRitter: ---
Dear Sirs,
First, let me point out a clear mistake in a tournament rated for the July list:
The E.Sinitsyn Memorial 2007 in Russia, see http://www.fide.com/ratings/trarc.p... This was a 14 player round robin with 13 rounds. 2 of the players were unrated before the tournament, but still every single player has n=13, indicating 13 rated opponents, which clearly is wrong. I wasn't able to find detailed information about this tournament, but an arbiter who signs such a rating report is clearly incompetent and shouldn't be allowed to function as a FIDE official arbiter. Such arbiters only hurt FIDE's reputation. Further, to retain the respect for the FIDE rating system, players like FM Afromeev, which was involved in the mentioned tournament above, should be warned and preferrably surgically removed from the top lists (or maybe even the rating system). Afromeev being listed with a rating of 2642, the latest gain - (partly erroneous, as the rating report was wrong and signed by an incompetent officer) - coming from beating 1900, 2000, 2100 and one or two 2200 players, is just spite in the face of hard working chess professionals in the top 100, and it's spite in the face of FIDE generally, and the rating comittee specifically. The least FIDE could do, is to remove officials who sign blatantly wrong reports. But giving Afromeev "a challenge", like participating in a round robin against other 2600 players, to prove that his rating is real and not the result of rating cheating, is something that would be expected, when thousands of members of FIDE membership countries are aware of the doings of Afromeev, but so far only see that FIDE accepts his corruption of the FIDE rating system. Best wishes,
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And signed, of course ... |
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| Jun-30-07 | | TheGladiator: And it turned out I was wrong - *sigh*
I got a prompt and kind reply from Mr Abundo, where he pointed out the following: < Regarding the rating of unrated players in a RR, please note FIDE HB
regulation 10.21b
http://www.fide.com/official/handbo...The results of both rated and unrated are taken into account.
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So, my mistake, everyone [please check the Handbook like I did now] - but he said he would forward my comments to other officials, and I must trust he will. I hope indeed Afromeev will get a kind of "challenge" like I suggested. |
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| Jun-30-07 | | Bridgeburner: Afromeev has indeed picked up 14 ratings points to 2642 and is now number 79 on the FIDE rating list for July 2007. I read somewhere that he boasted once he could get a FIDE rating for his cat. |
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| Jun-30-07 | | TheGladiator: Or his driver, or his parrot - I'm not sure which of the variants is correct... ;) |
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| Jun-30-07 | | Bridgeburner: Maybe he should apply for two ratings, one for himself and one for part of his anatomy. |
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Jun-30-07
 | | alexmagnus: <Gladiator> His driver HAS a rating. Something around 2400. But i don't know the name. He said he can get a rating for his dog. |
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| Jul-01-07 | | skiskichess5: <gladiator> you obviously have what it takes, when I wrote to FIDE I got no reply (see above)! |
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| Jul-01-07 | | skiskichess5: ... anyway this 14 point rise in his rating is great news for all Afromeev fans everywhere ... nobody can deny that ! |
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| Jul-01-07 | | Mameluk: Afromeev is unstoppable! |
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| Jul-01-07 | | skiskichess5: <gladiator> From what you say it doesn't look as though Mr Abundo commented on any of the other points made in your communication to him, but said he would ... forward them to others ... ? I think there are two quite different situations to be considered here. 1. Are the results of tournaments being faked? This includes players being paid to loose. This obviously cannot be tolerated. 2. The results are legit but a highly ranked player is picking up points by playing only against lowly rated players. Isn't Claude Bloodgood supposed to have done this in prison.
I think we have to admit that this is not against the rules. But clearly we are entitled to our opinions of players who adopt this strategy. I've never studied the rating algorithms, and it looks pretty complicated from the page that you link to ... Would the iterative method work if all the rated players in a tournament beat all the unrated players? |
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| Jul-02-07 | | TheGladiator: <1. Are the results of tournaments being faked? This includes players being paid to loose. This obviously cannot be tolerated.> This happens all the time in the Tula tournaments, mostly tournaments where Afromeev is the chief arbiter and doesn't participate. I have no proof, but by studying the results, where the international (= not russian or not living in Tula) players always score 2-4 points more than expected, it's pretty obvious. Afromeev also did so in the past himself, to arrive at 2600+. <2. The results are legit but a highly ranked player is picking up points by playing only against lowly rated players.> This is what FIDE says is the case for the recent tournament. But then they fail to realize that even a perfect score 13/13, is unlikely for a true FM in such a tournament (with several "high rated" 2100 players and som 2200 players). So even here I think we actually see the thing you refer to under number 1 - the real Afromeev isn't able to score 13/13 in his tournament, but still he does. Pretending it's reasonable "cause he is 2600+", would be a circular argument from FIDE, but still the kind of response I would expect from them. Btw, I've also gotten a reply from Mr Mikko Markkula, and GM Krasenkow has said that he's supporting my point about Mr Afromeev, calling it "a real scandal". Unfortunately, I think a number of strong GMs need to address this issue for FIDE to actually do anything about it. Tellingly, Mr Abundo probably didn't forward my mail to anyone until GM Krasenkow replied (my "trick" there was putting him as bcc: on my first mail, due to his presence on the relevant FIDE page - see below Directory/FIDE Titles and Ratings Committee) |
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| Jul-02-07 | | Bridgeburner: <Gladiator> Keep up the pressure. Afromeev is bad enough but the fact that FIDE has tolerated him and his peccadillos for so long makes it much worse. It seems from what you're saying that Afromeev has the Tula situation wrapped up and under his control. FIDE would need to probably need to scrutinise every tournament he's involved with. |
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| Jul-02-07 | | TheGladiator: <Bridgeburner>
My idea is that it's easiest to tackle Afromeev himself - if he gets tainted, he can't arrange all those dodgy tournaments. If Afromeev gets convicted for cheating, he can't act as a FIDE official anymore - or rather - that would be outrageous! |
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Jul-02-07
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: The best outcome I can see is Afromeev having to give FIDE so much bribes to get away that our glorious leaders can afford spending some of that money on chess promotion. |
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