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| Oct-30-05 | | sitzkrieg: S4NKT; Do u maybe know if ur shogi prog is for sale in stores and what name it has? I am looking for a shogi program quite some time but havent found one. It is a pitty the game Wells-Habu is not included here. It has been played very recently; Habu wins with a lot of fireworks; (P=N, L=B, D=Q)
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Pf3 Pf6 4.Pc3 e6 5.e3 Pbd7 6.Ld3 dxc4 7.Lxc4 b5 8.Le2 b4 9.Pa4 Ld6 10.e4 Pxe4 11.Dc2 f5 12.Pg5 Pxg5 13.Dxc6 Pe4 14.Dxa8 O-O 15.Dc6 Pdf6 16.f3 Ld7 17.Da6 Lxa4 18.Dxa4 Lxh2 19.Txh2 Dxd4 20.fxe4 Pxe4 21.Th1 Df2+ 22.Kd1 Td8+ 23.Kc2 Dxe2+ 24.Kb1 Pc3+ 25.bxc3 bxc3 26.La3 Tb8+ 27.Db3 Dd3+ 28.Kc1 Dd2+ |
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| Dec-30-05 | | IT4LICO: Here is good analises (in italian) of Well-Habu game, GM I.Roger called it "game of the year"! http://www.messaggerie.it/partite/g... |
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| Mar-12-06 | | Mameluk: I was currently trying to read some older german Schach in a club, and there were probably the same annotations as those italian here, very nice. 18... Bxh2!! called the right shogi move:) |
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| Mar-12-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Habu is Japan's second highest rated chess player, behind Akira Watanabe. |
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| Apr-15-06 | | Zebra: <Sitzkrieg>: <It is a pity the game Wells-Habu is not included here.> I have submitted it. Hopefully it will soon be on line. |
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| Apr-30-06 | | Atking: EmperorAtahualpa. It seems that in this site Mr Habu is already the highest with 2382. |
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| Jul-05-06 | | Confuse: wow i came to see if this guy had any games on this website and wow, for a professional shogi player he sure plays a lot of chess! |
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| Jan-16-07 | | GamerMan: Actually FIDE ranks Habu above Watanabe by 41 Elo points, though that can change very quickly with such a small difference . And there is checkmate in shogi, it is only in larger versions such as Chu Shogi that checkmate is removed (in fact, they have a special rule about checkmate [can't be done with a pawn drop]). Habu is pretty good for only playing twice a month (maximum twice a week) |
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| May-14-07 | | slomarko: Habu beat P.Nikolic in a rapid tourney in Belgium
http://users.skynet.be/fa054591/TOU... |
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| Sep-26-08 | | Ichiro: http://blog.m3.com/chessdocter/2007...
Here is the game:Nikolic-Habu. I think it should be included,too. |
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| Sep-26-08 | | Ichiro: http://monsieur.ddo.jp/chess/Bruxel...
You can find games here,too. |
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| Sep-27-08 | | Atking: For the chess players who are interested by shogi. The first game of the RyuO will be played between Watanabe (Title older) and Habu (Meijin) the 18th and 19th october at the Hotel Meridien Etoile in Paris. |
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| Sep-27-08 | | slomarko: meanwhile Habu just lost the deciding 7th game of the Oi match against Fukaura. |
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| Sep-27-08 | | Atking: Yes obviously Mr Habu had and still has a very hard schedule and wasn't able to win this game. He is playing many matchs against differents opponents in the same time!? In shogi world that's possible. A game is played in one or two days but between 2 games players have few days before they meet again. In case of Mr Habu, the days between he is playing another match! He is almost the only one who could challenge in the year 5~6 titles on the 7 possibles. If he wins the title which will start in Paris in october. Mr Habu will hold 5 titles. That means that all the others professionnels will have only the remaining 2 titles... Enough clear about Mr Habu shogi domination. Nearly 72% of wins |
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| Sep-27-08 | | Ichiro: Happy birthday,Mr. Habu!
http://www.habu-muso.com/
http://www.rayraw.com/
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| Sep-27-08 | | slomarko: <He is playing many matchs against differents opponents in the same time!?>
he can play maximum 2 title matches at the time. given that he holds most titles he doesn't have to play the qualifying leagues. |
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| May-12-09 | | MMan: Haven't heard much about Mr. Habu recently. Is he still playing chess or now sticking to shogi? |
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| Sep-25-09 | | Atking: Habu won yesterday and kept 4 titles on 7. When one imagine that got the final step of 2 others the year of 5 crowns may be soon realised.
<slomarko> I didn't see your answer. Yes he can play only 2 major titles in the same time. But there is some minor one as NHK tournament (He won it this year). The problem is Habu goes throught all the process of the selection and lost mostly at the end when some strong players lost before. Adding he is sollicited for books conferences more than the others to say 10 top players put together. That's great.
<MMan> I hear he is still training. Maybe his professionnal schedule doesn't offer to go to a foreigner country to play chess. |
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| Aug-05-11 | | Zugzwangovich: Chess and shogi are both such great games it's hard to understand why players of one almost universally disdain the other. IMHO it's harder for someone who grew up on shogi to find anything appealing about chess than the other way around. Hope this starts a discussion... |
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| Dec-03-11 | | Archswindler: <Zugzwangovich: IMHO it's harder for someone who grew up on shogi to find anything appealing about chess than the other way around.> I suspect that largely has to do with people who grew up on shogi being almost exclusively Japanese, and therefore inclined to have a tribal preference for shogi and a disdain for chess as foreign. On the other hand, chess has no strong association with any particular country, so chess players don't have any tribal preference when it comes to other chess-like games. Then again, I've looked at but never been that inclined to invest much time in shogi or chinese chess, just because chess takes enough time by itself and I'll never be as good at either of them as I am at chess. My experience of shogi is that it seems to be tactically deeper than chess, due to the ability to drop captured pieces back onto the board, and with a continually rising tempo such that the positions just get sharper and sharper until someone is checkmated. On the other hand, I think chess lends itself more to deep strategic and positional ideas, as shogi doesn't have anything like pawn structures or an endgame. I haven't seen any of Habu's games except the ones above, but at a cursory glance it seems that he does a lot better in the shorter games than the longer ones. I wonder if this has anything to do with shogi being more tactical, but completely lacking anything comparable to a chess endgame. |
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| Dec-04-11 | | Zugzwangovich: <Archswindler> You make some quite good points; I hadn't considered the tribal preference aspect too much but it undoubtedly is a factor. In my earlier statement I was trying to view shogi through the eyes of someone who'd grown up on it and took the re-dropping of pieces on the board and the mutual mating attacks that comprise shogi endgames as integral parts of the game. Having that sort of background/mind-set, shogi aficionados have no experience in, no understanding of, and no appreciation for the what I think is the most difficult thing about chess--the subtle nuances of its endgames. Countless Japanese have asked me, "Which do you think is more difficult, chess or shogi?". My answer is "Shogi is unquestionably more complicated, but I think chess may very well be more difficult", which kind of disappoints and confuses them. The point is that chess demands more precision than shogi because in chess a single wrong move can sink you, while shogi is so complex that even the best players make many second- or third-best moves (especially in the late stages of the game) and so there's always a chance for the weaker side to turn the tables. Of the two games, chess will always be my first love but I have great respect and appreciation for shogi and its professional players, so it's very disappointing to me when I see a shogi pro going into print with a statement to the effect that compared to shogi, chess is often like a simple mathematical exercise; all one need do is count the number of moves each side needs to make to queen a pawn. Or when I read the Japanese encyclopedia's subjective statement that shogi's "paratroop" rule makes it the most exciting and interesting form of chess in the world. The fact that draws are virtually nonexistent in shogi is certainly one of its plus factors, though. |
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| Dec-04-11 | | Atking: I will just add that the Shogi Champions Habu and Moriuchi do a lot to promote chess in Japan... and they consider chess and shogi very different (as could be BaseBall and Soccer...). |
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| Dec-04-11 | | Zugzwangovich: <Atking> You are correct, and Yasumitsu Sato could be added to the list as well. |
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| Jan-13-12 | | Archswindler: <Zugzwangovich: Of the two games, chess will always be my first love but I have great respect and appreciation for shogi and its professional players, so it's very disappointing to me when I see a shogi pro going into print with a statement to the effect that compared to shogi, chess is often like a simple mathematical exercise; all one need do is count the number of moves each side needs to make to queen a pawn.> For some reason, this reminds me of something that Kasparov once said about Radjabov (I think) - that he has to seek complications at the board with sharp openings, because his understanding of simple positions is not as great as that of other players at the 2700+ level. Whether that is true or not, I think it is understandable that a shogi professional, who is used to wild complications and treating every position tactically, would not appreciate the difficulty of playing in very simple positions where there are no tactics, and where the key to play is formulating a long term positional plan based on some tiny bishop vs knight imbalance, for example. |
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| Feb-26-12 | | nummerzwei: <Zugzwangovich>: It's like Aronian's 2006 statement that he prefers bughouse to chess, isn't it? I guess that if Aronian played shogi, he'd quickly get as good as Mr. Habu is at chess. |
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