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| Aug-15-16 | | Jambow: Acts 17 We are all of one blood... |
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| Aug-15-16 | | Big Pawn: <jambow>, indeed! But no one will listen to me. They all think I'm crazy! This whole lie about races and racism has got all the sheep brainwashed. I brought this up on the rogoff page and they laughed, they scoffed, they mocked - but no one could bring any scientific or philosophical evidence that races EVEN EXIST! In fact, I made a list of ten points and they all laughed, mocked and scoffed - yet each of them agreed with a point here or there, and collectively they agreed with me quite a bit, but don't worry, they still denied the conclusion! |
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 | | saffuna: <This whole lie about races and racism has got all the sheep brainwashed. I brought this up on the rogoff page and they laughed, they scoffed, they mocked - but no one could bring any scientific or philosophical evidence that races EVEN EXIST!> You really need to slap down the guy who wrote this, then: <When people talk about racism they mean white people hating black people. In reality, the problem with the black community in America is black racism. Racism against whites is pervasive in the black community, from the pulpit to the president.> |
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| Aug-15-16 | | Big Pawn: <You really need to slap down the guy who wrote this, then: <When people talk about racism they mean white people hating black people. In reality, the problem with the black community in America is black racism. Racism against whites is pervasive in the black community, from the pulpit to the president.>> I wrote that in 2013, and I told you, and the board on Rogoff, that I have recently realized what I am declaring now; that races and racism does not exits. I made posts about my thoughts on this as it they were changing, and noted it then and now, so what exactly is your point? I notice by the way that you <jim bartle> agree with me, that if you are walking down the street and hear footsteps behind you, and you think you may be robbed, and then you turn around to see white people and feel relieved - that is NOT racism. We agree on this. |
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Aug-15-16
 | | saffuna: Oh, you were wrong back then. That's what you're saying? |
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| Aug-16-16 | | Big Pawn: Yes, I hadn't realized fully that racism did not exist. I posted about this already so you have NO thunder.
But now I realize that racism does not exist and that no one can provide either scientific or philosophical evidence that races even exist. On the other hand, I supplied references from SEP, both scientific and philosophical to support my point. Not much you can do but grumble. |
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| Aug-16-16 | | Jambow: Well race is an artificial man made and also poorly defined construct. With all of its subjectivity it in reality is meaningless or at the very least ambiguous. This unless you are on a train bound for Auschwitz or a slave ship bound for some distant destination or of course a Slav heading to the Middle East, they might differ. I don't have a huge problem with the concept if as much as the incredibly hypocritical application of what is race and racism by it's loudest most obnoxious supposed opponents who are usually the proponents and are racist by any reasonable definition. This predicated only if assuming race other than human is valid on any level. Yet humans like horses and dogs etc... can be put into various species or breeds if one desires to do so, defined by certain defined phenotypical attributes from various geographical locations. Darwin in his "Descent of Man" thought certain that the European <"race"> being superior <"more evolved"> would follow the course of nature and exterminate those races less fit and so survival of the fittest would play itself out. His nephew Francis Galton would bring us Eugenics and the concepts needed to expedite the advancement of mankind. Hitler and Stalin would put this into practice at the national level and even global scale with brutally cruel and devastating effects on humanity. Either one of them have murdered more people then have all religions including the violent Islam throughout all of recorded human History. Sobering but also very much ignored fact by humanists the radical left. I have even touched on the deaths and bloodshed from abortion. So as we were, God says men are all brethren, and we should do unto others as we would want done to ourselves. The philosophies governing our world and media only superficially, in practice they are racists to the core. Glad my hope is in Jesus Christ and not his dark world... |
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| Aug-16-16 | | Jambow: <this> dark world |
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| Aug-17-16 | | Big Pawn: <jambow: Either one of them (Hitler, Stalin) have murdered more people then have all religions including the violent Islam throughout all of recorded human History. Sobering but also very much ignored fact by humanists the radical left.> This is something I bring up every time an atheist says something intelligent like, "Religion is stupid! It causes wars and more people have died because of stupid religious wars than for any other reason!" You know how they think.
You know how they are.
But yes, I bring up the point that you made and you can throw in Pol Pot as well and really take it over the top. |
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| Oct-25-16 | | Big Pawn: As a general rule I don't put people on ignore, but if you are going to impersonate me on this site and harass me without debating me or somehow arguing with me, then I will put you on ignore. If you post here in my forum and don't address some specific topic but simple come here to leave your dirty toilet paper all over my floor, your posts will get deleted. |
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| Oct-28-16 | | cormier: http://rienquedugratuit.ca/videos/u... |
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| Nov-05-16 | | Big Pawn: A nice group of beautiful girls singing Amazing Grace. Thanks for the share, <cormier>. |
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| Nov-05-16 | | Big Pawn: https://jordanfrancispatricksmith.f... |
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| Nov-07-16 | | Big Pawn: While the world rages on about the upcoming election, I have been carefully pondering infralapsarianism, sublapsarianism, and supralapsarianism. |
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| Nov-08-16 | | truepacifism: "infralapsarianism, sublapsarianism, and supralapsarianism."
and? Have you come up with anything on them? (I mean, like many people I am also tired of this long election cycle and wouldn't mind a distraction) |
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| Nov-08-16 | | Big Pawn: I haven't come to any conclusions about it yet, but it's interesting to see consider the logical order, the priorities of God's decrees. You have thoughts on this? |
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| Nov-09-16 | | TheFocus: Happy birthday, <Big Pawn>!! |
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| Nov-10-16 | | Big Pawn: Not my birthday but I'm happy alright! How can't you be happy after the stunning results of this election? Trump wins an historical upset, the house is GOP, the senate is GOP and 26 governorships have gone GOP. This is a thorough repudiation of Obama's insane liberal policies that everyone hates. Political correctness has been cast into outer darkness. It's time to say Merry Christmas again now that evil has been dethroned. Christians can come out of hiding and not have to walk on eggshells. Imagine being told that Merry Christmas is offensive, but it's not offensive to have late-term abortions and gay marriage shoved down out throats. The systematic, encroaching censorship of Christian thought is not offensive but "Merry Christmas" is, under the evil one, Obama. Does anyone doubt that this was the most evil man to sit in the White House? He dumps all over our friends, our allies, Israel, and gives BILLIONS to the "Death to America" country, along with the Nuke Deal. How many white guys got off the couch to vote this time around because they can see how much the Obama's hate them? Michelle Obama was never proud of America until Barack was elected. For 8 long years we wanted OUR America back, and now we have it back! Happy Birthday? No. Happy day? Yes! |
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| Nov-11-16 | | Big Pawn: Thomas Hearns vs Pipino Cuevas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKs...
2 rounds, excellent quality video |
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| Nov-14-16 | | Big Pawn: Is liberalism a mental disorder or a spiritual disorder? Also, what causes someone to go liberal? |
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| Nov-14-16 | | optimal play: Define liberalism. |
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| Nov-14-16 | | Big Pawn: Liberalism is the rationalization of sin and sinful desires and is the enemy of commonsense. Liberalism pretends there is nothing wrong with the homosexual lifestyle. Liberalism pretends that executing murderers and violent criminals is a moral equivalent to aborting innocent unborn babies. (They say, you're "pro life" but want to execute murderers!). Liberalism pretends that men and women are the same. No differences. Liberalism pretends that global warming makes it cooler sometimes. Liberalism pretends that men can be women and women can be men. Liberalism names a man as woman of the year.
Liberalism says that the Islamic State is not Islamic. Liberalism pretends that guns kill people instead of people killing people. Liberalism pretends that a woman doesn't NEED a man to raise a family and that single parent families are fine. Liberalism pretends that "manspreading" is a real issue. Liberalism pretends that Democratic Party (USA), which is the party of the KKK (historical) and the party against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is the party of civil rights! Liberalism pretends that people that enter my country illegally are not here illegally and are not illegal aliens. Liberalism pretends that it's offensive to say Merry Christmas during Christmas time. Liberalism pretends that having to obtain voter ID is racist. Liberalism pretends that patriarchy is a horrible thing and then they defend everything that is Islamic. Liberalism pretends that tolerance is a virtue, then they exemplify intolerance. (Today, a Rochester univ professor was forced to step down after a Pro Trump remark). Liberalism pretends they are for gay rights, then they defend policies that allow Muslim immigration to the US, and these people toss gays off roofs. Liberalism pretends that there is no such thing as Islamic Terrorism. Liberalism pretends that giving people preferential treatment based solely on skin color (affirmative action) is fair. Liberalism pretends that if you use the magic word "identify" that it changes reality. "He's a man!" "No, he identifies as a woman so he's a woman". Liberalism pretends that Hillary Clinton's endless corruption is small potatoes but that Trump's civil suit is important. Liberalism says that America is racist when we have a black president, black supreme court justice, black sheriffs, black mayors, black governors, black senators, black congressmen, black school teachers, black police chiefs, black holidays, black months and black universities. Liberalism pretends that Israel has no right to exist and that Palestinian school bus bombers are victims. Liberals pretend that global warming is a far greater threat than Islamic Terrorism. Liberals pretend that moral values are neither objective nor absolute and then express their moral outrage at conservatives for being hateful, racist, intolerant etc... Liberals are hopeless contrarians that are concerned with defending the urge to satisfy their sinful desires even if it means denying the truth, right or wrong exists. |
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| Nov-14-16 | | optimal play: A brief discussion was had about liberalism on <playground player>'s forum back in August, and whilst <pgp>'s definition was pretty much in line with yours, we concluded that it bore no resemblance to classical liberalism as derived from the likes of John Locke, Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, Thomas Jefferson, and other advocates of civil liberties and political freedom. Classical liberalism is a political ideology that values the freedom of individuals, including the freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and markets, as well as limited government. "Australia is one of the few countries in the world where one can call oneself a liberal and mean it." http://theconversation.com/australi... "No ideas have been more important to Australia’s political development, both in the colonial era and in the period since federation on 1 January 1901, than Liberalism and liberal values. They were the motivating force in the campaigns in the various colonies for self-government during the nineteenth century. They provided the philosophical foundations for the federation itself and, more especially, the Constitution upon which it is based." "In Australia, Liberalism has virtually never been defined in ideological or even doctrinal terms. It has always ... embraced a range of values central to the political, social and economic life of the nation. Prominent among these values are constitutionalism, representative and responsible government, bicameralism and federalism..." "Whether in the political, social or economic spheres of life, Australian Liberalism has supported and advocated the rights and freedoms of individuals, especially when threatened by collectivist views and organisation. Individual liberties, the right to vote and participate in political life, to hold and voice opinions, to seek and take advantage of opportunities to prosper, to make choices about life and its course, are at the heart of Liberalism..." https://www.federationpress.com.au/... Now clearly true classical liberalism bears no resemblance to that litany of politically correct extremist ideologies you presented, almost all of which reflect an acute intolerance of the very essence of liberalism. They belong in a whole other category! |
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| Nov-14-16 | | Big Pawn: <optimal> Yes, there is no doubt that the essence of the word liberalism has changed since the time of Locke. It's also well known that the word takes on different connotations around the world. It means something different in America, Australia and Europe. In this country, liberalism and political correctness go hand in hand. It's madness writ large. Conservatism has a different essence now too. Back in the days of Locke, conservatism implied support for monarchism whereas today it doesn't. There is something about our liberalism that is connected to sin and sinful desires, as well as an inability to reason soundly and have common sense. The Islamic State is not Islamic, for instance. Since we more or less agree up to this point, it may be interesting to discuss the liberalism of Locke's time and how it came about as well as how it relates to the enlightenment period, and how that new way of thinking is or is not harmonious with a theistic worldview. On the back end of this topic lies postmodernim as a reaction to modernism which is tied into the enlightenment. The enlightenment is also tied into the ideas of individualism vs collectivism. |
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| Nov-15-16 | | optimal play: <In this country, liberalism and political correctness go hand in hand.> How did that come about? Classical liberalism has nothing to do with political correctness. <Conservatism has a different essence now too. Back in the days of Locke, conservatism implied support for monarchism whereas today it doesn't.> So how would you define conservatism today? <There is something about our liberalism that is connected to sin and sinful desires, as well as an inability to reason soundly and have common sense. The Islamic State is not Islamic, for instance.> Yes, we keep getting that incongruity shoved down our thoats too, but only the most gullible are swallowing it. Most Australians know better and are in favour of a ban on muslim immigration. It's like one of your 'definitions' from the previous post... <Liberalism pretends they are for gay rights, then they defend policies that allow Muslim immigration to the US, and these people toss gays off roofs.> That's not liberalism, but there are people in this country who maintain that same view!? I suspect these people are genuinely for gay rights, but they are extremists who see Christianity as the enemy, and take the view that 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' which leads them to cosy up with Islam. However it will be too late for them if Islam ever takes control because they will be shocked to find their newfound muslim 'friends' are not quite so tolerant towards their gay lifestyle as they might have hoped! <... it may be interesting to discuss the liberalism of Locke's time and how it came about ...> Yes, it may shed light on how liberalism is understood today by various groups in different countries. Interestingly, although Locke was an advocate of religious tolerance, he excluded atheism from this ideal because he believed it would undermine society. Likewise, he was intolerant of Catholicism due to an exaggerated suspicion of papal interference. http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/... He never had to deal with muslims in 17th century England, but I'm pretty sure he'd consider Islam incompatible with liberalism, just as it is today. |
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