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CG Librarian
Member since May-07-11 · Last seen Apr-20-15
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   CG Librarian has kibitzed 21 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Jun-04-12 CG Librarian chessforum (replies)
 
CG Librarian: OK, here are a few things I wanted to mention: 1. I got a copy of Chess Personalia (quite a while ago now) :) 2. The reason CG put a hyphen in Spanish double last names was so the database software didn't get confused about what the last name was (for things like the Player ...
 
   Nov-03-11 European Team Championship (2011) (replies)
 
CG Librarian: <Slaven MNE> You're right. We also had the wrong Georgiev. I think the error must have gotten propagated from the official site.
 
   Aug-08-11 World Junior Championship (2011) (replies)
 
CG Librarian: Here's the situation with incorrect game scores for this tournament: we first received many truncated games, then the correct versions. I've removed all the incorrect duplicate games that affect the leaderboards. If you see more please submit a correction slip on them.
 
   May-28-11 World Championship Candidates (2011) (replies)
 
CG Librarian: <alexmagnus: Actually if you do the search now you get +9 -5 =27. One Gelfand win from 1990s, present just a week ago, now magically disappeared... Maybe it was attributed to some different players.> Hello, I just saw this. The stats changed because I merged away a ...
 
   May-08-11 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
CG Librarian: <Domdaniel: Welcome, o Eager and Bright database administrator person.> Thanks, and hello everyone! My chessforum is now available for correction-related comments. I'm sure I'll also be posting things that need additional research, so check back often.
 
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Dec-26-13
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  Stonehenge: Last Librarian kibitz: Jun-04-12 :(
Dec-26-13  whiteshark: <"I adjust"> Last seen Dec-25-13 ;)
Dec-26-13
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  Stonehenge: The point is that it is pointless to kibitz here :(
Dec-26-13  whiteshark: OK, you've made your point!
Dec-26-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: I'm not sure what the point of this forum is in the first place.

Only 12 pages.

I don't understand the function of this place.

Either Daniel is going to pay someone to help process correction slips properly or he isn't.

Emails directly to Daniel would seem to the best way to get specific information about "forgotten" correction slips.

The last correction slip I sent was going on 6 months of dead silence. I emailed Daniel and it was done the next day.

Dec-26-13
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: The Librarian processes correction slips all the time. Sometimes a slip may seem to slip through the cracks (because she doesn't find the time to tackle it before other slips replace it at the top of the pile), and at other times she'll intentionally leave a slip for later because she's not sufficiently convinced the correction is accurate, but she's working hard to improve this site.

It would be good, yes, if this forum had any point.

May-10-14
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  Phony Benoni: Thanks for adding the new games to 56th US Open (1955).
Jun-02-14  Boomie: I submitted a correction slip for DeFirmian vs Short, 1986 a month ago. Since this is an incorrect result, I expected it to be a high priority correction. But so far no change. So it appears that the correction process is broken.
Sep-25-14  ljfyffe: Instead of deleting kibitzes about errors(often necessary discussions) why not simply indicate a correction was made and when it was made.
Sep-25-14  ljfyffe: No need to go into detail.
Sep-25-14  ljfyffe: By that I mean something like: -Revised on such and such a date.
Oct-30-14
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  OhioChessFan: <The Librarian was, of course, very much in favour of reading in general, but readers in particular got on his nerves...He liked people who loved and respected books, and the best way to do that, in the Librarian's opinion, was to leave them on the shelves where Nature intended them to be. -Terry Pratchett >
Oct-31-14  Benzol: <It would be good, yes, if this forum had any point.>

Try the third row, second shelf down. Right next to Myths and Legends.

:)

Yes, it would be good if the Librarian were a little more active on this page and interact with the kibitzers more than she has done in the past. Still maybe she just doesn't have time.

Nov-01-14  TheFocus: Librarians are busy people.
Jun-05-15
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  Domdaniel: Ragozin vs Rauzer, 1936

White could probably have drawn with 32.Rc7+ -- eg, 32.Rc7+ Kxb5 33.Bd7+ and Black is practically forced to give up the exchange with 33...Rxd7.

Subsequently, Black's d-pawn is likely to fall, but in return Black's Rook penetrates to his 7th rank and holds a draw without much difficulty.

After missing 32.Rc7+ White is lost -- but there seems to be a typographic error in the score as given. Black's 33rd, 33...Kd6, would make *much* more sense if it was ...Kb6. For one thing, Black could pick off the bishop with ...Kxd7 at any time (eg, 33.Rc7+ Kb6 34.Rd7+ Rxd7 35.Bxd7 d2 etc.)

But with the King on d6 it isn't quite so simple, though black still wins easily.

Incidentally, there's also another 1936 game between Ragozin and Rauzer - a Nimzo-Larsen.

I've submitted a correction slip, but haven't found hard evidence in other databases etc. Can anyone help? Playing through the game, the Kb6/d6 dichotomy looks like a typo -- unlike white's 32nd, a typical OTB mistake.

Jun-05-15
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  Annie K.: Take it to the Biographer Bistro, <Dom> - this forum is defunct.
Jun-05-15
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  Domdaniel: <Annie> Funny, Le Bistro des Biographeurs was ackshly my first thought ... then it occurred to me that this place was criminally underused and that my query was ideal for a librarian.

But defunct is defunct, I guess. Did they fire the dear lady, or did she, like me, just stop answering mail?

Jun-06-15
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  OhioChessFan: <Librarians are the secret masters of the world. They control information. Don’t ever piss one off.

–Spider Robinson>

Jun-06-15
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  WannaBe: Maybe we can replace the avatar of current librarian with that uploaded picture of David Moody. =)
Jun-07-15  Benzol: She posted last in June 2012. Can we fine her for being overdue?

:)

Jun-07-15
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  Domdaniel: I 'ad just wandered into this place
In the hope of a familiar face
But like some sort of noob
I muttered "J'adoube"
And the Librarian left without trace.
Jun-08-15
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  OhioChessFan: <Of course it's alright for librarians to smell of drink. -Barbara Pym >
Jun-12-15
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  chessgames.com: Zanzibar suggested a kind of automated clean-up operation on a post here: chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #22806)

<zanzibar: <chessgames> there's a special category of corrections that, once reviewed, could and should be done automatically. Let's call it <Date Rounding>, i.e. the tournament's <Round Numbers> can be determined simply by looking the the game's <Date>.>

We do things like that, although we've never done it with round numbers. I'm not exactly sure how you are proposing this should work.

Of course there are always a few odd games that were replayed, and other fringe conditions, but the most glaring question is: how would it take into account rest days? If we know the event date for a tournament we don't even know when round #1 takes place! (Sometimes the EventDate is the day of round 1, sometimes it's the day of a ceremony.) I don't really understand what you are proposing.

However I can make a proposal: suppose we have one game for a tournament on January 7th, 1913 and it says round "6", then we have another game for the same tournament, also on January 7th, but no round number. We make a very good guess that the one missing the round number is also round 6.

Unfortunately that's not a common case. More likely would be that we have one game from a tournament with all the correct info, and the other game just says [Date "1913.??.??"] and [Round "?"].

For my sake, clarify what you are proposing in this fashion: show me an example of a game missing round # information right now which would be fixed by your method, and then describe the method that would fix it.

Jun-12-15  zanzibar: Damn! It was gonna be my first post here, and <chessgames> beat me to it.
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