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Feb-06-07
   |    | WannaBe: I don't play black side worth a poo,
 
I don't play black side at a zoo,
 
I don't play black side with Mr. Woo,
 
jessicafisherqueen I am.
 I don't play black side with my dog Boo,
 
I don't play black side with pieces made of goo,
 
I don't play black side with a cow that goes moo.
 
jessicafischerqueen, I am.
  Apology to the Doc!  | 
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| Feb-06-07 |    | mack: <Why is me proud of a drawn game?> Chess is always about personal victories, and nothing more.  That's why chess leagues have always been a bit strange for me: they're a fine tradition, and it's great to have one game a week, but I genuinely don't care what my team as a whole have done if I've won.  Last week, for example, I played in a league in London and we lost 5.5-0.5, but that half point was me drawing an FM.  As such I couldn't have given a tangerine toss if the rest of my team had all forfeited their games because they'd died in a horrible motorway pile up on the way to the hall.  Um, not sure what the point of this was actually.  But do be proud of your personal victories, and expect more.  | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | Domdaniel: I saw another sustained four-queen game in Dublin last year at the 2006 Irish championship. Which I could have played in and stupidly didn't - I realized too late that the younger generation had failed to appear and 90% of the players were people I'd beaten or drawn with in the 1980s. I even have a plus score against the eventual winner. Of course they've all improved in the meantime, and I haven't. But I might not have performed as abysmally as I thought I would. As for the 4 queen situation, the raw power on the board is incredible. You can sac a queen then bring up the other one for the kill. Of course it was useful in my game being gifted the bishop on c5 - but Black's big problem is that both white queens are active, while the black one on a3 is temporarily out of play.  | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | Domdaniel: <Why is me proud of a drawn game?> Me, I'm proud of lots of drawn games, mainly because I draw so many of them. In fact I think the 4-queen game took place in the only tournament where I failed to draw any games at all. After that first round win, I reached a dashing and anti-climactic 2/6. But it WAS my first grown-up tournament. Fine things, fighting draws - not the pusillanimous sort. But when you cling on a pawn down in a knight ending, or work up a perpetual just before you get mated... then you can feel you've done well. Or maybe chess is like poker. And some people play every endgame to the death, just like they go all in given half a chance. I seem to be made of more peacably inclined stuff.  | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: Thanks for the <Seussy> song, <twinlark>. Where are the nice note thingys you command with your superior hacking abilities? | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: <Psychic Dom> Thanks for the reassurance. Yes, in the game I drew I was being crushed positionally bit by bit and having a hairy poo fit... Till I noticed that a bishop sac gave me perpetual check wit my Queen on his Kingside... You guys sho noes yer chesse  | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: <Mack Truck> "Pile up on the motorway"? Have a look at the opening sequence of <Godard's> "Weekend" for the greatest motorway accident scene in film history...  | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | Domdaniel: <mack> Yeah, club and league type games require a certain temperament. I worked out once that if only tournaments counted my rating would be about 2200, but if only club matches counted I'd be about 1400.  Which took many nights of toil, turning up at unheated community centres, achieving utterly won games against weaker players, and then nodding off and allowing a mate in one. Eventually the club 'demoted' me from a low board in their A team to top board in the B team, which played in the same league. Since I was now statistically certain to lose all my games, I started to win some. But I haven't been to a club in years. At a weekend tournament it's possible to get into a chess-besotted state of mind - the kind of state I've never been able to switch on just for a Thursday evening.  | 
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| Feb-06-07 |    | twinlark: <Where are the nice note thingys you command with your superior hacking abilities?> They're on your PC and I...um...posted the instructions on my forum for finding them, which...um...I thought you'd done(?). | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | Domdaniel: This place will turn into a chess forum if we're not careful, folks. Still, now that Jess has persuaded me to break my own rules and post an actual game from the dark ages, I'll have to dig out another one from 2006/7 and sling it up. If only to demonstrate how much my brain has rotted. Watch this space.  | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | WannaBe: Jess has persuaded you? It's more like being <man>ipulated into doing her biddings!! :-) | 
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Feb-06-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: <twinlark> yes of course I have the instructions. PSYCHE!!!
  heh  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | Domdaniel: <Wannabe> You saying I'm susceptible to being personipulated by the slender gender? You could be right, at that. Simple little mechanisms, us males, really.
  To keep things in chess mode - this week's fetish - I was reading a book by Jaan Ehlvest where he referred to men as 'the sterner sex' - not the kind of phrase anyone could use in English. I wondered if it was an old Estonian saying, or a dodgy translation, or just a remnant of how these things went in the old East Blok days. *puts on stern look* So there. Hmph.
  *gives up and giggles instead* Nah, I'm just not made of sterner stuff...  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | Domdaniel: <mack> - <But do be proud of your personal victories, and expect more.> I mean this in the best possible taste, of course, and no slights or insinuations are intended ... but might there be a workable niche halfway between stand-up comedy and motivational speaking? If one of them crashed you could insist you were really doing the other one.  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | Domdaniel: *advertorial*
 I've said this elsewhere (in a quasi-secret location) so I might as well say it again here (in quasi-public). Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual by Mark Dvoretsky is the best chess book of any kind I've seen in about 20 years. Possibly ever, although Nimzo's My System has to keep the top spot for sentimental reasons. I bought a few books recently - more opening stuff that I don't need or won't use, Keene's Petrosian book because he told me I'd like it, Speelman on analysis (pretty good) - and Dvoretsky. Which is just phenomenal. Apart from the general quality and depth of analysis, which seems faultless, the layout, design, use of terminology, teaching methods, choice of examples etc etc are all wonderful. He illustrates important endgame ideas with a 'tragicomedy' - like a position from a GM game where White offered a draw despite having a forced win. Or grandmaster games with horribly misplayed endings. So many games where strong players threw away the good work they'd done earlier. Really striking examples. Dvoretsky's point is that these little tragicomic dramas actually stick in the mind better, and are thus useful teaching/learning aids. And I think he's right. Several of the examples have lodged in my brain much more forcefully than the usual endgame positions do. It's a very astute piece of psychology, maybe connected to our human urge for narrative. Or drama? And any of you who harbour the weird desire to improve your chess should get this book. *end of advertorial*  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: <Mack> is an excellent motivational speaker. Before I read his posts, Like the <Chris Farley> character, I <lived in a trailer down by the river>. I still do, of course, but I feel motivated nonetheless. OCTAGRAM  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> do you think I could post one game in here for you guys to look at (jeer, maybe?)?? It's only 21 moves I think and I made an attempt to make funny annotations.  Jester Queen  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: Hey your'e awake!! G'morning <dominator>. So I'm a bit unclear. You like the book, you're saying? (I'm not a expert parser)  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: My chess library is thin. My best volume, I believe, is <Scientologist Chess Principles for the Addled> by <Thomas Cruise> (no relation). | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: spam, spam, spam, spammmmmmmmmm | 
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| Feb-07-07 |    | Boomie: Put me down for splunge all the way so we can get somewhere. <End of Civilization>  Damn!  Civilization started and I didn't even notice.  Now it's gone.  Wah! <Jess:  Trailer by the river>  Being a Pacific Coast denizen of the rain forest, I envy your spot by the river.  I love to fall asleep with those river sounds.  | 
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| Feb-07-07 |    | mack: <Jess>
 You can post it in my forum, if you like. That way I can sneer at your game and you can sneer at my aforementioned draw. Then neither of us look quite so egotistical because it will be under the veil of mutual analysis, or something.  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: LOL <Mack> that's a kind offer that I will take you up on. However, I don't think it's egotistical to post one's own games for friends. In fact, it could have an ego-deflating effect. The moves I'm so proud of are no doubt theoretically unsound, and my opponent's missed opportunities to have won an easy game against me will be exposed by analysis. Especially by you guys, who are so <wise in the ways of science>. <Dom> Are you saying "Nit" to that old woman?  | 
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Feb-07-07
   |    | jessicafischerqueen: Whispers secretly to <Mack> ...of course, a bunch of us could spam <Dom's> forum with our favorite games... make an impenetrable forest of FENS in an environment that has been refeshingly clean of any distracting "chess talk" for so long...  | 
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Feb-08-07
   |    | Domdaniel: That wasn't another vanishing act. That was me staring at the computer all day, occasionally twiddling things, wondering where my internet connection was gone. Until I noticed I'd accidentally unplugged it. <Jess>, please do post the game, that's if you haven't already deserted my den for the charms of that nice Mr. Mack.  'Forest of FENs' is nice. Sounds vaguely Jurassic, or maybe I'm thinking of Ferns.  | 
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