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Feb-19-07
 | | Domdaniel: <Zebra> ... and a 'metaphor' is a baggage trolley? There is also the old story about the phrase 'out of sight, out of mind' -- after two translations it becomes 'invisible idiot'. |
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Feb-19-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: LOL When in Vancouver, gents, don't forget to visit the <Flamboyant Health Food> shoppe on <Kingsway>. Then of course there was the infamous (cannot put name here) brand toothpaste from Japan, which hit the International Press when it was first marketed in Australia... It was subsequently re-named. (Original name was British spelling for "number two") |
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Feb-19-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: Invisible idiotic parking, buy your passes here folks. |
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Feb-19-07
| | Domdaniel: When in Vancouver, I first have to throw myself into False Creek. The Flaming Boys can wait... |
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Feb-19-07
| | Domdaniel: Innaresting 'discussion' on the censorship issue over at Ivanchuk vs Topalov, 2007 By innaresting I mean "a catfight between humorless dorks and imbecile juvies" but what the hoopla. Was it not Prez Harry Truman who once threatened "all-out thermonuclear heck"? The infernal h-word being a worse crime than blowing up the planet, or even *thinking* about blowing up the planet? Boom, boom. |
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Feb-19-07
| | Domdaniel: <Original name was British spelling for 'Number Two'> Er, G-o-r-d-o-n B-r-o-w-n ... ??
Ohhhh, Brown, right, of course... heck, she's smart... |
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| Feb-19-07 | | Knightlord: Beware of English-Hungarian phrasebooks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6x6... |
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| Feb-19-07 | | mack: <"a catfight between humorless dorks and imbecile juvies"> The internet there ladies and gentlemen, summed up in half a sentence. |
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Feb-19-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> lot more fun to watch the games live when you're there, plus the <analysis> help. Thanks. Must be late there, no? |
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Feb-19-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: Dang these "E" limitations... We should all be out in the Pub now, no? Sigh... Looks like I picked a bad decade to quit drinking... |
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Feb-19-07
| | Domdaniel: <Jess> Cheers, your presence livened things up too. I bet it was <us> that dour wotsisname was putting on ignore, and not the other daft guy. If you see what I mean. Late? Not really, midnite plus odds'n'ends... time to call a halt, though. Yo, a halt! |
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Feb-19-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: LOL actually I liked the <daft guy>. He had excellent <daftednessishosiness>, always a refreshing quality... Cheers |
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| Feb-20-07 | | Zebra: <and a 'metaphor' is a baggage trolley> Or a home removal (actually that one makes some kind of metaphorical sense). I also liked the garage that was advertising (to me as a former classicist) "repairs to all self-propelled chariots". |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: They're on a rest day in Mexico? Then I might grab the opportunity for a work day. If you want to call listening to the radio 'working'... |
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| Feb-20-07 | | calmarten: <Domdaniel> Here is a puzzle like finish to a game. It isn't a quality game like the other one but had a great finish. I'll put up a diagram with black to move and you can try and figure it out on your own if you want. Just don't look at the finish which I'll post below the diagram.
[Event "ICS Game"]
[Site "ICS"]
[Date "2006.05.31"]
[Round "-"]
[White "dachoose"]
[Black "calmarten"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1619"]
[BlackElo "1820"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Bf4 Bg7 4. c3 O-O 5. e3 d6 6. Be2 Nbd7 7. h3 Re8 8.
O-O e5 9. dxe5 dxe5 10. Bh2 e4 11. Nd4 c5 12. Nb3 b6 13. c4 Bb7 14. N1d2
Qe7 15. Nc1 Ne5 16. Qc2 Rad8 17. Nb1 Nc6 18. a3 Nd7 19. Nc3 Nce5 20. Nxe4
Ng4 21. Bxg4 Bxe4 22. Qb3 Ne5 23. Be2 h5 24. Na2 Qg5 25. f3,...
click for larger view25...,Rd2 26. fxe4 Rxe2 27. Rf2 Nf3+
0-1
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| Feb-20-07 | | Eyal: <calmarten> Nice finish, though White could have put up much more of a fight with 26.Bf4 instead of fxe4??. Black's best way to finish the game in the diagram position is actually 25...Nd3! (followed by Qxe3). |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: <Calmarten> Yes, Eyal is right -- White should try to muddy the water after 25...Rd2 with 26.Bf4, when the position is very unclear. Maybe Black can try 26...Bc2 hitting the white queen in return, but I'm not sure. I'd certainly prefer, as black, not to exchange queens. When I looked at the position first, I asked myself, OK, is there any combination/attack there against f3? No, it doesn't work. Then I looked at e3 -- there are various ways Black can gang up on the e3-pawn, but even if you get to play ...Qxe3+ it's hard to see a good follow-up. So then I looked at d3 (very methodical - f3, then e3, then d3 - looking for a weak spot) and concluded that it was the key. Both ...Nd3 and ...Bd3 seem to be good. They block the white queen's guard on e3, and if you can get your knight to d3 with ...Qxe3+ there could be mate threats. Apart from the confusion that 26.Bf4 creates, though, 25...Rd2 is a good move. I thought that maybe 26.Rae1 could hold, but black can play 26...Rxb2! and the rook is untouchable due to ...Nxf3+. After 25...Rd2 26.Bf4, it's possible that 26...Nxf3+ is winning, but it's very complex. It's one of those positions where you feel White doesn't *deserve* to have a resource like 26.Bf4! -- after a horrible move like Na2 he should be lost. Nice finish anyway, though. |
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| Feb-20-07 | | Eyal: Quite an interesting position, really. After 26.Bf4 the "main line" seems to go 26...Nxf3+ 27.Rxf3 (27.Bxf3? Qxg2+) Qe7 28.Nc3 Bxc3 29.Qxc3 Rxe2 30.Rf2 Rxf2 31.Kxf2 g5 - with ideas of Bb7 followed by Qe4, and Black is probably winning, although materially it's equal for the moment. This is the kind of position where the presence of opposite-color bishops actually increases winning chances, because the attacking side is playing, in a way, with practically a piece up. Btw, 25...Bd3 doesn't seem to work due to 26.f4 (which isn't possible, of course, after 25...Nd3 because of mate on g2). |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: Synchronicity Corner, contd. Shortly after telling <The Tale of The Aged Bibliophile> I get an auction catalog in the post, listing, gasp, books actually owned and signed by Nimzowitsch. To bid or not to bid? Sell my useless CDs or my worn-out body, or just mug somebody? Ah, the Algebra of Need... <Dawn is almost here, I need my night's blood, my funding, funding, ahhhh, more...> |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: <Eyal> Agreed - certainly after 26.Bf4 Bc2 27.Qb5 White is at least equal.
In your line, what about 27...Qh4 or 27...Qd8 as alternatives to 27...Qe7 (although I admit that ...Qe7 looks probably the best of the three)? Hmm, no, on 2nd thoughts your "main line" looks best. And ...g5 does give Black an edge, but one requiring much careful play. As we saw with Carlsen-Anand yesterday, opposite colour bishops plus heavy pieces are very different from opposite colour bishops alone. Shows how unfair chess can be. Black's pieces seemed nicely lined up for a breakthrough, and White's Na2? was asking for punishment -- and he has a resource that at least keeps the game alive. |
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| Feb-20-07 | | Eyal: <As we saw with Carlsen-Anand yesterday, opposite colour bishops plus heavy pieces are very different from opposite colour bishops alone.> So it turns out we're having a day with a series of wins with opposite colour bishops, if you count <Honza>'s game as well... (I also liked this game very much myself - 27...Bxe4! showed brilliant positional judgment). |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: After 25...Bd3, 26.f4 isn't so dangerous. Just 26...Qe7, and then either 27.Bxd3 Nxd3 or 27.fxe4 Bxe2. Although there's no great black advantage in this, it's still slightly better. Not as better as 25...Nd3, I agree, which remains the best winning chance. Pity. There *should* be more... |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: <Eyal> Indeed. I think it was <Technical Draw> who came out with that wonderful comment about <double opposite square bishops> ... beautiful idea... |
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| Feb-20-07 | | calmarten: <Eyal><Domdaniel> I let crafty play out the main line for about ten moves. it ended up almost -3 giving black almost a whole piece. Whites position was almost a zug either lose an exchange on a1 or the N on a2. I don't much trust crafty and I trust it even les on this computer since its old and slow. Yes the position is very much alive until fxe which loses at once. I don't remember what the tc was in this game and it wasn't on the PGN I think it was 20 0 or 20 20. hardly enough time to play a position like that or to even calculate most of the Bf4 Nxf3 lines. Also a note on human chess in positions like that for white its very easy to blunder. It just feels like black has all the play and whites pieces are so badly uncoordinated. |
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Feb-20-07
| | Domdaniel: This game of mine got deleted during the recent cleanup process -- not because 4.g4 is a profanity, though some would say it is, but because it included a confusing typo. I think it's OK now. Actually, it has some interesting points. Playing an opening with b3, d3, e3 etc and then 'mysteriously' producing a phalanx of advanced pawns is something I like to do, but rarely get away with. Black doesn't commit any outright blunder here, but his development strategy is too passive. He shouldn't just play ...b6, ...Bb7, 0-0-0, etc and think he's doing OK. White has played a strategically dubious opening and should be challenged more vigorously. This was played in a rapid 30-min event, which I’m usually not very good at. The time factor may account for some of Black’s mistakes, though I have also used the same home-brewed opening to beat players over 2200… White: DD (c.1950)
Black: NN (c.1880)
Dublin 1989.
1. Nf3 Nf6
2. b3 g6
3. Bb2 Bg7
4. g4!?
<This idea, the Nimzo-Spike, is moderately well-known in the form [1.b3 Nf6 2.Bb2 g6 3.g4] – my idea was simply to play 1.Nf3 first… others have tried it but I didn't know that then. And White tends not to do very well overall.> 4…h6
5. h3 d5
This much is theory. But Black should now either play ...c5 or prepare for ...e5. What he actually does gives White time and space to get rolling... 6. e3 b6
7. d3 Bb7
8. Bg2 Nc6
9. Nbd2 Qd7
10. Qe2 0-0-0
11. 0-0-0 Ne8
12. d4 Nd6
13. Ne5 Nxe5
14. dxe5 Ne8
15. f4 f6?!
16. Nf3 c5
17. c4?! [17.Nh4 is better, maybe]
17 … e6
18.Qc2 f5
19.Nh4 Qf7
20.cxd5 exd5
21. gxf5 g5?!
22. Ng6 Rg8
23. fxg5
[uh, how did they get up there?]
click for larger view23 … hxg5
24. Rhf1 Bh6
25. e6 Qc7
26. Be5 Nd6
27. f6
[or up there?]
27 … g4
28. e7 Bxe3+
29. Kb1 Qd7
30. exd8Q+ Rxd8
31. Ne7+ Kb8
32. hxg4 Ba6
33. Rxd5 Bxf1
34. Rxd6
1-0
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