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| Dec-01-18 | | achieve: Three moves on from the previous FEN position, we arrive here: click for larger view3. Nc2-e3 is the last move here, and Stockfish 9 at depth=38 says mate in 11, but after SF9's 3...Kd6 it's mate in <7>, for a total of 10 moves from the starting position in my previous post. The last moves 6 moves to mate are of extra-ordinary geometrical beauty, and ruthless efficiency... from here:
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(NO outside help!)
Harmonizing light pieces is really an artform on its own. Just the light pieces, no "interference" by "space munchers" like rooks... Just let the kids play and dance. My hunch is that AlphaZero gets it all correctly in very little time, and come to think of it, I'll email Matthew Sadler, who still has AZ at his disposal. |
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Dec-01-18
 | | Domdaniel: <TheSlid> -- <What will be the intentions of the AI machines?> -- Good to see you again too. I'm not sure machines are anywhere near having intentions yet. But philosopher Daniel Dennett is an advocate of 'the intentional stance', which entails acting towards other entities, human or not, as if they had intentions. At some point it becomes moot - irrelevant, really - whether such intentions are 'real' or imagined. We just have to assume they exist. |
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| Dec-01-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: Just read what you said about me under one of those WCC games. Very kind thing to say Dom but I'm not getting better, if anything I'm getting worse - I'm middle aged now :) <On the Match - Carlsen played for penalties, in a soccer analogy, knowing that he is actually better at real chess than any other human.> True :)
<To be fair, that no longer makes him much good at the game.> That's just ridiculous! I'm not a fan of chess at the top level anymore although there's always a few gems, but Carlsen is a product of the age and times - you think Kasparov and Karpov would be any different if they played in this day and age? |
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Dec-01-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Mark> - So what happened to Churchill on acid? |
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Dec-01-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Niels> - I have a confession to make. Ten or twelve years ago I rediscovered maths, and got really into it for a while. Later it was superseded by chess to some extent. But I don't much like geometry. Number theory and calculus, yes, but the old Euclidean rag leaves me cold. |
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| Dec-01-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: <Domdaniel: <Mark> - So what happened to Churchill on acid?> He <tripped> and fell into Goerring's morphine stash - deadly combination. Have you ever taken it, Dom? Oh mate.. Back in about 88-89 I used to take one tab (basically a tiny bit of paper like a stamp https://goo.gl/images/xazxe1) on a weekend and stay at an older friends house. At first I've never laughed so hard in my life, to the point your face aches, I can't even remember what I was laughing at, no one could it was just brilliant. Then I had a bad trip, I can't even begin to describe how much I thought I was going to die so I never touched it again - I was <crazy> back then and <that trip> was so bad even I never took an E (Ecstasy) when all my friends were going to raves, I only ever had mushrooms once, I was basically done with hallucinogens by age 14-15, didn't pop my first E till I was in my early 30s! It was truly horrifying that trip. I had the last laugh though because every weekend when my mates were at raves talking to walls and telling strangers they loved them - and their pets, I was in the pub pulling fit chicks. Once you've had a bad trip you don't go back, truly terrifying. Mind bending, I can still remember this sound I was <positive> my brain was making..a creaking sound, lol. |
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| Dec-02-18 | | achieve: <Domdaniel: <Niels> - I have a confession to make. Ten or twelve years ago I rediscovered maths, and got really into it for a while. Later it was superseded by chess to some extent.> Would that be my age now? Pretty close I guess. <But I don't much like geometry. Number theory and calculus, yes, but the old Euclidean rag leaves me cold.> This may sound a bit odd, but to this day I haven't looked up a single formula, I sorta hate them, and as I said just went off exploring in any direction with an interesting smell... In fact I did create a few formulas, more like repeating patterns and ratios that I found, and to my initial surprise I could barely find a single hit on google, which I found weird, with so many Math students and designers, architects in the world. I did contact a math tutor here in Amsterdam, an A-student in fact, and upon showing my worksheets her eyes almost fell off; she had never done anything from the ground up to the extent that I had done, and in fact could not help me with some of my queries. But I had a great time, sometimes frustration kicked in, tiredness, but the next morning I simply sat down and worked patiently towards a solution. That amount of patience and non-(self) judgmental attitude I developed during that time, in recovering from the illness. A first for me in that manner. I put out well over 50 work sheets with drawings and calculations, of which quite a number is way over my current head, yet without a single book or website to advise me. I wanted to do it "all by myself", which is why it was such a fun ride, that journey. Time was available in abundance, time pressure non existent. That was my advantage over students in schools with teachers and books. And configurations of pieces on a chessboard were often the initiator. The AlphaZero project I therefor find hugely interesting...
Matthew Sadler (do you happen to know him or his chess?) will publish a book on that in 2019, 'Game Changer', which I will certainly purchase. |
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Dec-02-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Mark> -- <Have you ever taken it, Dom?> Acid? Well, yes, of course. Mostly in the 70s - I'm an old fart, remember? Can't recall if I ever mixed acid and opiates. But I wouldn't, would I?
A lot of chess players are prudish about 'drugs' -- "Oh, I value my brain too highly to risk damaging it"... I'm not even sure that such a thing as 'drugs' exists. Every chemical that effects the brain is different. You can't just lump them all together. Don't think I ever had a bad trip, btw. Though I did have both good and bad experiences. It has been a while since I did any of this stuff. (Ironically, your original guess about the long break in my chess 'career' was partly right. Though you got the reason wrong - I was not locked up.) Anyhow, I don't want to fall into the trap of nostalgia for something which does not deserve it. "The old fart was smart". -- Captain Beefheart. |
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| Dec-02-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: I was only joking about you being locked up, Dom. I meant no offence I was more poking fun at myself than anything else. And I kinda agree with you about being nostalgic about something that doesn't deserve it, but I look back at the so called bad days with a strange fondness. I believe that if I hadn't been through everything I did then I'd always be in danger of making poor lifestyle choices - there's no way I'll ever go back to how I was 15 years ago, I know that. I'm just one of those people who doesn't dwell on the past in that sense. It made me who I am today and whilst some strangers on the nutterweb may not like that I just don't care. I'm too blessed to be stressed as the kids say :) Yeah the reason I asked you about acid is because I remember you talking about opiates and I think the stereotypical chess players see alllllllll drugs as bad. You seem a bit more open minded than most here in that sense. <Can't recall if I ever mixed acid and opiates. But I wouldn't, would I?> Lol. Probably not if you took the acid <first>. Always a danger of OD when you start mixing powerful prescription drugs or class A's, a young American rapper called Mac Miller died recently and they found both cocaine and fentanyl in his system - lethal even to a hardcore junkie. Anyways.. Best get off that subject :) |
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Dec-02-18
 | | OhioChessFan: I never tried acid, but it's the one drug I almost regret not experimenting with. |
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Dec-02-18
 | | OhioChessFan: <achieve: This may sound a bit odd, but to this day I haven't looked up a single formula> I wish I could remember the details, but I suspect it was about 1983, and a maths professor fed a high end computer of that day a rather simple geometry question regarding a triangle. The need for the computer was to prove the answer. That computer had not been programmed with the formula that would have relatively easily solved the problem. To everyone's surprise, the computer solved the problem by calculating all 6 trigonometric functions for each of the 180 degrees, one degree at a time-and then it all gets hazy for me... I am definitely a person with much more facility for words than numbers, but at that time, with a little bit of maths education, I sorta, kinda followed what had happened. I would be thrilled if someone could confirm my foggy memory on this matter and offer 100,000 chessbucks to anyone who can point me to the original story. |
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Dec-03-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> - Can't help, I'm afraid. I do recall hearing such a story, but it might have been one of those suburban myth thingies. But I don't have any details. |
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Dec-03-18
 | | Open Defence: in a few weeks I think it would be 2 years since I even looked at a chessboard let alone move a piece |
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| Dec-03-18 | | Boomie: <Open Defence> Chess or no, you are sorely missed here. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Open Defence: thanks <Boomie> hows things? |
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Dec-05-18
 | | OhioChessFan: Here's a nice little chessboard for <Odie> to look at. Nothing too difficult to analyze. click for larger view |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Stonehenge: That position screams for Ng1-f2. |
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| Dec-05-18 | | Boomie: <Open Defence: thanks <Boomie> hows things?> I'm muddling through somehow. Of course, things would be better if I had my B-Girls here to back me up. But Let It B, I say. I hope everything is tickety-boo with you. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Niels> -- < as I had to sell my acoustic, needed the doe... > By Loudon Wainwright ...
<Used to have a red guitar,
Till I smashed it one drunk night
Smashed it in the classic way
As Peter Townsend might> ...
Next Step: as a very young person, I lived in an Irish village/town named Skibbereen. Nobody was sure just where the name originated, but the prevailing theory was that (like the Danish/Swedish 'Skibby') it came from a Scandinavian word for 'boat' or 'ship'. I have also visited Skibby in Denmark.
Back in Ireland, Skibbereen was said to derive from a word for 'little boats'. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Open Defence> -- Hey there. Did I remember my manners enough to say "Great to hear from you again!" ... ? No? Well, it's *really* great to hear from you again! Truly. Welcome back. A couple of years is nothing. I recently took about six months off, and nothing much happened. Well, Daniel died. And so did my brother Barry. But life goes on. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Op Def> -- Chess or no (as Ohio might put it) you are missed here. We all loved to hear from you. Hope all is well. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Dr Winston> -- <A strange Fondness> -- an unusual phrase, that, isn't it? Just the other day I was trying to think of Lennon lines to counter my brother's idiotic claim that the Beatles were "just a boy band". I mean, come on. Boy bands in the Westlife sense didn't really exist yet. And 60s boy bands (Walker Bros? Monkees?) weren't so bad either. I'm still a Scott Walker fan. And then I began to think of John's writing. Like 'Working Class Hero' - ("And you think you're so clever and classless and free, but you're still firkin peasants as far as I can see" ... ") And so on. There are many more. John was just so bloody brilliant. Macca had some kind of musical genius too. His songs were sometimes bland, but he was brilliant at conjuring up harmonies. A boy band? No, so much more. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Dr Winston> -- I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true, Mark. I think you write very well. There's a rhythm, a kind of balance or poise, that most people never learn to use. So wot? Maybe it doesn't really matter much. But if you ever want to persuade people, or convert them to some other point of view, or even turn them into robotic scientologists (heh) -- well, the skills are there, waiting to be used. Apart from those practical uses, well, you could probably write some excellent stories if you had to. I'm not sure that I ever could. Having tried a few times, and even won a couple of small prizes, I reckon I'm missing one or two of the key ingredients of fiction writing. Like being willing to put your whole self into it -- I tend to prefer layers of disguise. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | OhioChessFan: <I mean, come on. Boy bands in the Westlife sense didn't really exist yet. And 60s boy bands (Walker Bros? Monkees?)> Herman's Hermits, Chad and Jeremy, Peter and Gordon. <weren't so bad either.> The Monkees were fantastic. The rest were pretty decent. I'm on record as not being a fawning Beatles fan. But despite the fact I find much of their later stuff pretentious and boring, there's so much great stuff along the way I have to love some of it. |
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Dec-05-18
 | | OhioChessFan: <Dom: I'm not sure that I ever could. Having tried a few times, and even won a couple of small prizes, I reckon I'm missing one or two of the key ingredients of fiction writing.> I think you'd bloody hate having to have a beginning and end to a story. |
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