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Dec-05-18
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> - I think you've put your finger on it. "One or two key ingredients" = "beginnings and endings". If I ever attempt to write fiction again I will first have to get you on board as my agent. I know some good writers who have trouble with endings. Some, like Pynchon, just let things drift away. Others, like William Gibson, tend to plot things a bit too tightly - you don't always see the ending coming, but you know that a final wrap-up is looming. But most published writers tend to get beginnings right. Probably because, if the agent or publisher gets stuck at that point, well, the book is going nowhere anyhow. |
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Dec-06-18
 | | Open Defence: <Domdaniel> Hello!! <Well, Daniel died. And so did my brother Barry. But life goes on.> sorry to hear that I've spent most of my time writing songs.. they need to have beginnings and endings too or as they say Intros and Outros... before it becomes <Outros Outros Ghali> or as the Germans say <Ein Fahrt> and <Aus Fahrt> |
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Dec-06-18
 | | OhioChessFan: Per the discussion of writing, I am reminded of something about someone. I will give a hint who it is: He's a helluva talent. I am going to look up and quote him, not closely paraphrase him or IIRC him, but quote him. As a helluva talent, he deserves that much from me. Then I will make some observations. It will sort of pain me to make those observations, because sometimes in making observations and sharing them, you destroy any possibility of your reader experiencing the joy of discovery you had. To recap, I have experienced the joy of discovery in the writings of a helluva talent, and wish to share them here, even if doing so forestalls you the chance of discovering it on your own. And maybe the reason I discovered what I've discovered is that I'm <wrong> and am not worthy to discover anything worthwhile in the writings of a helluva talent. But that'd be okay too. Wrong can be interesting. Be back soon. |
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| Dec-06-18 | | Boomie: Perhaps this can help with the Intros and Outros: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DU... |
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| Dec-06-18 | | Boomie: In my brief but spectacular writing phase, I found that knowing the outro was key for me. Once I knew where I was going, I could find plausible routes for getting there. A cracking good synopsis is most important. If you can't describe the story in one page, you don't have anything worth reading. |
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Dec-06-18
| | OhioChessFan: Okay, according to no less than Hemingway, Salinger was a helluva talent. And Salinger had this to say about writing-yes, writing, even though the context is speech, which is just writing vocally: <That digression business got on my nerves. I don't know. The trouble with me is, I LIKE it when somebody digresses. It's more interesting and all...lots of times you don't KNOW what interests you most till you start talking about something that DOESN'T interest you most...I like when somebody gets excited about something.> Wow, typing that sort of felt like quoting Literary Scripture or something. Salinger was a helluva talent, wasn't he? I think writing like that deserves a day for me to think about before actually deigning to comment on it. Be back tomorrow. |
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Dec-06-18
| | Domdaniel: <Boomster> -- <knowing the outro ...> *That* I can understand. When I was twenty years younger and much more simple, I used to say that there were two types of writer -- those who used a map, and those who used a compass. Obviously, the compass-users had a direction in mind, and knew roughly where they were heading. But they knew little about the terrain to be crossed. The map-users had a key to the terrain, but didn't grasp how to avoid getting lost en route. Nowadays, more complex, less trusting to patterns, more inclined to be suspicious of my own ideas, I don't trust such ideas at all. |
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Dec-06-18
| | Domdaniel: <The intro and the outro> ... yes, indeedy, folks, that would be the very wonderful Bonzo Dog (Doo-dah) Band, featuring Vivian Stanshall, Neil Innes, Legs Larry Smith and Mr Slater. Not forgetting Vernon Dudley Bohay-Nowell, Sam Spoons, et al. Stanshall was a genius. Innes had a pure pop sensibility, like Paul McCartney. "Eleven Mustachio'd Daughters/ Running in a field of fat ... " <"The odd boy went down to the football field/ Took out a slim volume of Mallarme/ The centre-prop called him an imbecile/ It's an odd boy that doesn't like sport...
Sport, sport, masculine sport, equips a young man for society/ Yes, sport turns out a jolly fine sort/ It's an odd boy who doesn't like sport..."> |
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Dec-06-18
| | Domdaniel: <Ohio> Ah, yes, Mr Salinger himself. Mentioned wherever journos need a cheap reference for the word 'recluse'. Or, as Pynchon said: 'recluse' is a code word meaning 'prefers not to talk to journalists.' Some so-called critics even went so far as to suggest they were one and the same person. ("Doesn't talk to the media? Hides away? That is so weird, man, it's psychotic. How could there be two of 'em, tell me that?") Curiously, it was only in the past few months that I got round to reading some of the less-well-known Salinger books, like 'Franny and Zooey'. Beautiful. |
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Dec-06-18
| | Domdaniel: BTW, I also like it when somebody digresses. Or when they loop back to a previous topic, glance off it as if they were playing pinball, then forge on to the big score. And why not? Digressions, deviations, tributaries, paths to the side ... all of them increase our understanding in one way or another. |
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Dec-06-18
| | Domdaniel: <Open Defence> - Heh, thank you. Or, as those philosophically-inclined Germans also say: "Gute Fahrt". |
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| Dec-06-18 | | Dr Winston OBoogie: <Domdaniel: <Dr Winston> -- I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true, Mark. I think you write very well. There's a rhythm, a kind of balance or poise, that most people never learn to use.> Aww thank you, Dom. You always say very kind things about me and I want you to know it doesn't go unappreciated :) I think I write <okay> for someone whose had an education like me, I try to make s--t interesting that's all, I'm not dumb though. I was one of those kids who had that "If you settled down and behaved you could be blah blah blah....."talks. One of my goals on my to do list before I die is to write something that sells. I read books by other people and think I can do better. About 6-7 years ago I started <trying> to write a book, I wrote about 30 a4 sheets of paper that my old man printed out.. Guess what? He didn't just correct spelling mistakes he <changed the words> thinking I wouldn't notice, so I can't be that good lol. I've still got the papers - it's about the JFK assassination. It's just something I'm <<very very interested>> in. I think Oswald was in it up to his neck I just don't see him getting those "3 shots" off! I think Kennedy's headshot is from the front, I think the mob were involved, I have a few theories on that assassination.. It's a fascinating subject, I love history, especially English and American history, thing is those yanks don't go as far back as us, my gran (who just blew out 90 candles last week!) has paintings older than America, lol. With the JFK assassination there's too much <complete crap> out there, I could write a book I didn't even believe in and still make it more believable than a lot of the Kennedy historians. Check this out - I love this YouTube channel he has some fascinating and intriguing guests on, he's had Clint Hill (the secret service agent who jumped on the back of JFK's Limo in Dallas) Donnie Brasco, Micheal Franzese, the DEA agents who killed Escobar and many more JFK assassination - autopsy details released after 55 years https://youtu.be/2U7dXPA_juM ^^^ That man is no conspiracy theorist, he was the first doctor to treat JFK and you need to watch it mate! If I try explain it I'll spoil it, it's <brand new> too. He knows shots came from the front. That Micheal Franzese interview is the most watched mob interview ever https://youtu.be/5U-yqm9H_Sg they even did a part two it was that good :) |
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Dec-08-18
| | Domdaniel: <Mark> - I also tried to write a fictional story when I was 9 or 10 years old ... my Dad read it and did me the favour of taking it seriously. I remember it was called "War Comes Everywhere" (ouch!). But my Dad said it was well-written, but needed to be more engaged with real people and how they behaved. People, he told me, were gregarious animals -- we needed to flock together and to interact with one another. This was pretty wise, I think. My Dad has been dead for nearly 40 years, and I don't think he ever again commented on anything I wrote. But he hit the point in this case. |
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Dec-12-18
| | Domdaniel: <Mark> - So the Brazillian@#$%*@! tried to call me names, yeah? Pathetic. And I've been called worse things anyhow. Want to form a Water-off-a-duck's-back club? |
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Dec-12-18
| | Domdaniel: "I used to have a red guitar
Till I pissed it once drunk night
Pissed it in the classic way
as Peter Townsend might ... " |
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| Dec-13-18 | | mckmac: Greetings Dom, It's good to see you back.
I am very sorry to hear of your brother's passing. My Dad used to say that life just isn't fair, nor is it 'meant' to be fair, but that doesn't make it any easier to understand and cope with some of the things that happen to us. |
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Dec-13-18
| | Domdaniel: <mckmac> - Thanks, I appreciate that. My brother Barry was ten years younger than me, with a wife and young child. Yes, life is not fair, nor is it 'meant' to be. Given some of the things I've done in the past, it *should* have been me ... and I would have changed places with him if I could. But we don't get that choice. |
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Dec-13-18
| | OhioChessFan: Back on top of the hit parade after a year's absence: To the tune of Don't Go Breaking My Heart- Elton John and Kiki Dee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwJ...
Don't go solvin those clues
I couldn't if I tried
Oh homey if I use Wiki
Maybe if I use TinEye
So don't go solving those clues
You have to wait there for me
Oh homey when you click on that prize
You took it from me.
Nuuuukluuuuuuuuuu
Nobody knows it, nobody knows
When I was stumped
I was your chump
Nobody knows it
Right from the start
Gave it my heart
Gave it my heart
So don't go solving those clues
I won't go solving those clues
Oh yeah
Don't go solving those clues
And nobody told me
Nuuuuukluuuuuuu
Cause nobody showed me
And now it's up to me maybe
I think I can fake it
So don't misunderstand me
You put the fight in my eyes
Oh you put the burn to the game
I've got your prize in my sights
Nuuuuuuuuuuukluuuuuuuuu
Nobody knows it
When I was stumped
I was your chump
Nobody knows it
Nobody knows it
Right from the start
Gave it my heart
Ohhhhhh, gave it my heart |
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Dec-13-18
| | Domdaniel: Good one, Ohio!
But I suspect that "I couldn't if I tried" is not *entirely* accurate ... |
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Dec-13-18
| | Domdaniel: I have yet to see a live Klu. I'm sure one will turn up ... eventually. |
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Dec-13-18
| | OhioChessFan: I saw one and thought it was a test, as it only showed up on the homepage. <penguincw> mentioned that to the admins. I realized the game was afoot when I saw recent kibitzing mention it. |
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Dec-13-18
| | Domdaniel: Phil Dolph ... Philip K Dick ... (Horselover Fat) ...
... Phil Oakey ...
... Philip Short ...
... Philip Progenitive ... |
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| Dec-16-18 | | Alien Math: <Domdaniel> Glad to see your return here, hope you have a great holiday season this year and best of luck on the klues |
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Dec-16-18
| | Domdaniel: <Alien Math> -- Thanks. Good to see you around as well. I've been keeping an eye on the quiz, but not really trying too hard. |
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Dec-20-18
| | Domdaniel: Best Christmas and New Year wishes to everyone from Domdaniel, Frogspawn, Gerry, and any other names that come to mind. I'll be away for a few days over the holidays, but I'll try to stay in touch with everything and everyone here. It's been a tumultuous year - in real life as much as in chessgames - but all we can really do is to pick ourselves up off the floor and try to carry on. To all my friends (and to most other people) - xG. |
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