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| Mar-30-11 | | YouRang: <NakoSonorense: Hi, YouRang. With all due respect, after seeing the discussion you had with OCF last year, it blows my mind away how you can still be a Christian. You should be one of us! =)> Well, I did use to be one of you until I decided (much to my surprise) that the Bible presents strong reasons for acknowledging a divine origin. As a result, I think I am much more understanding about the atheist point of view than most Christians. As for OCF, it's not uncommon to have disagreements. IMO, we had a minor and a major disagreement: The minor disagreement had to do with scientific matters and whether or not Genesis 1 should be understood literally. The major disagreement had to do with whether Christians should be in the business of accusing scientists of being liars. I don't think either of us are interested in renewing that debate. Anyway, my apologies for blowing your mind. ;-)
<Agree. IMO, he borrowed those accounts from somewhere else, maybe the Epic of Milgamesh or God-knows-what. All I am saying is that I find it hard to ignore the possibility that Noah story and others were plagiarized from older accounts.> From your perspective (i.e. believing that divine inspiration doesn't exist), I understand. I too suspect there is a connection. But even from the non-believer's perspective, I think we can't say for sure where it started. I'm leaning toward God-knows-what. :-) |
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Mar-30-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <YouRang> I just learned from your post here that you are in fact a Christian! So based on your earlier dialogue with our host <Ohio>, I'm guessing you are a Christian in the tradition of fellow Christian scientists such as <Keppler>, <Newton>, and the great <Michael Faraday>? |
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| Mar-30-11 | | YouRang: <jessicafischerqueen: <YouRang> I just learned from your post here that you are in fact a Christian! So based on your earlier dialogue with our host <Ohio>, I'm guessing you are a Christian in the tradition of fellow Christian scientists such as <Keppler>, <Newton>, and the great <Michael Faraday>?> Yes, I suppose, although I don't consider myself to be a scientist, and even if I were, not quite as *great* :-) I certainly have no general complaints against scientists. On the contrary, I consider their efforts to understand nature to be one of mankind's noblest and most successful endeavors. |
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Mar-31-11
 | | OhioChessFan: It appears all dogs, wolves, and dingos have a single lineage. Might that point back to a pair of the canine "kind", not "species", on the ark? |
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| Mar-31-11 | | cormier: i'm a universal-christian ... \\ // / .... bravo guy's ..... i'm very proud of you, tks G |
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| Mar-31-11 | | Lennonfan: <OCF>...just watching a programme now on bbc4 called "everything and nothing"
and immediately thought of you and your opinions regarding god(and the ppl your debating the bible with)....see if you can see it on youtube or even cable....
Before i say another thing,how long do you say that the universe and especially the earth has been "here",since some "god or being" just made it??
Honestly....for the the last 4 or 5yrs iv known so many christians,who all believe the earth is no older than 8000yr old,yet there's questions even they could not answer.... |
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Mar-31-11
| | OhioChessFan: <see if you can see it on youtube or even cable.... Before i say another thing,how long do you say that the universe and especially the earth has been "here",since some "god or being" just made it?? Honestly....for the the last 4 or 5yrs iv known so many christians,who all believe the earth is no older than 8000yr old,yet there's questions even they could not answer....> A few thousand years. Ask away. There's questions I can't answer. I'll work on some questions for you. |
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| Mar-31-11 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: <JFQ> I get things wrong all the time! I know it and I admit it! I think you are correct that Gilgamesh was pressed onto clay tablets; I may have been thinking of Code of Hammurabi which shows an Egyptian god handing down laws to Hammurabi and was most likely the inspiration for Moses 10 commandments. I have only been reading the bible for 6 months or so and have actually referenced different versions (KJV,NIV, Douay, etc) to try to understand what is being written. Believe it or not, I welcome the criticism. Do you JFQ believe that the earth is only 10,000 years old? BTW, archeologists have claimed that Gilgamesh precedes the ark story, I am only the messenger. Now, JFQ, I know that you are a teacher and my usage of "bullet points" would never pass muster in a HS or college paper, nonetheless, it is adequate to a free style debate, as we have here. Crass? Guilty as charged, no tea and crumpets for me tonite. A Christian called me a "hater, and a murderer" so I guess I can live with "crass" |
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Mar-31-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <God from the Alekhine> Well yes I was high handed and snippy as usual. I too welcome criticism, glad you can take it. I doubt anyone will call you a "hater" or "murderer" in this forum, <Ohio> runs an open, but civil thread in here. No, I don't believe the earth is 10,000 years old.
In fact, I would swear that I had a teacher in primary school who was almost certainly older than 10,000 years. "Mrs. Unwin."
She looked like a tiny white prune, and she used to whack us over the knuckles with a steel ruler. I was all for involving the police, but decided they might even be worse. We all called her "Mrs. Onion." |
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Mar-31-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Deus> why not get a preemy and open up your own forum? I've noticed you have an interesting and varied posting history. If you opened a forum we could visit you and leave links to interesting websites such as this one: http://www.fake_website.com |
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| Mar-31-11 | | technical draw: There was a GI with me in the army whose name was Unthank. (We called him unthankful). So Unwin is probably a real name. |
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Mar-31-11
| | OhioChessFan: <Arriba: She looked like a tiny white prune, and she used to whack us over the knuckles with a steel ruler.> Sr. Mary Margaret had a great cure for ADHD. It saddens me to see how much money we waste on sedating kids. |
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| Mar-31-11 | | Lennonfan: <OCF>...you know me by now,by my posts on here so you know full well il never agree with anyone just for "the hell of it "(like some!)or try be part of "a clique"...but il say this for you....your a decent,understanding,patient fellow,and i respect you for that....as for my questions,my brains fried tonight(as most nights lol)but i will ask you tmrw or something about what i mentioned earlier....il try tonight but no doubt you'l prove me wrong as im not on top form lol...
AND....(this makes me very happy!)....<DEA>just said to <JFQ>in his above post <i know your a teacher>..!!!! I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT.....the way she talks to ppl,everything about her,proves i was right when i said this in one of my first posts on here!...i know your a man of god OCF,but did you like school and the teachers who taught you? Be honest?
Because i certainly didn't,so apart from my 3rd ever post and her putting me on ignore because i disagreed with bobby fischer,im so glad im right regarding jess!! So happy! Lol |
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Mar-31-11
| | OhioChessFan: I hated school and despised a number of my teachers. Please don't use my forum to take a shot at a third party. Thanks. |
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| Mar-31-11 | | Lennonfan: <OCF>I wont use your forum to take shots at anybody mate,i wouldn't do that to you,but i just knew FOR ONCE in my life....,..i KNEW 100% i was right....and it just happened to be on your forum someone else posted it on,so i apologise i addressed her on here....
Anyway,i will pull you on them questions i have after watching that program i told you about earlier...really interesting,im interested in stuff like that...
Spk tmrw
All the best
Lennonfan |
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| Mar-31-11 | | cormier: hi <<OCF>> have a good day ... i've got the feeling Mother-Nature(seen-physical-universe) is gonna be the subject .... i hope the guys remember how brainy is the One who wish it to be ..... earth and sky will pass by yet His Word of Life will prevail, His Kingdom is among-us, tks G |
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Apr-01-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio> ok yes- good point actually I should have made up an anecdote- we don't want that otherwise fine teacher's relatives suing you. Arriba! is actually the name of <hms123>'s wife, in case you didn't know. Though I was honored to be called Arriba! |
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Apr-01-11
| | OhioChessFan: I thought Arriba was Speedy Gonzalez's wife. And you <should> be called Arriba! |
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| Apr-01-11 | | hms123: <OCF> You have confused Speedy's wife <Arriba> with my wife <Arriba!>. It's an easy mistake to make. |
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| Apr-01-11 | | cormier: a cat and a mouse ... lol .... wouf ..... cheese |
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Apr-01-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <krmr> good to see the French "wouf" again- it's been years now since I lived in Montreal and read French comics. Many people don't know that Quebec dogs say "wouf" instead of "woof." |
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Apr-01-11
| | OhioChessFan: http://www.bodoi.info/wp-content/im... |
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| Apr-02-11 | | cormier: http://www.voanews.com/english/news... ... Mrs Nature from Marmot on KR forum .... the price of electicity will lower-down ..... the question is when, lol |
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| Apr-03-11 | | Lennonfan: <OCF>...are you on this site at the moment mate?? I have a question for you,but wont post it yet if your not.... |
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Apr-04-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio>- a rare serious question for you- given our past discussion of this issue, what do you think about the administrators posting on the hoax page on April 1st, without taking care of any business- and some of it is actual chess site business- on their forum page for almost a week? Second question- do you ever email them and ask "what's up" during these absences? |
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