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| May-04-12 | | Jim Bartle: Brosnan was a well-respected writer as well as a pitcher, so maybe it was a "write-off." |
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| May-04-12 | | technical draw: I think the "walk off" might refer to the losing pitcher who "walks off" the field with his head low. |
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| May-04-12 | | Jim Bartle: That's an interesting point. Eckersley walked off the field with his head held high. He knew he wasn't going to save the game every time (same with Rivera), and took it in stride when he lost. Then he was ready to go the next day. That has to be a key for a good closer, to forget the failures. |
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May-05-12
 | | WannaBe: Toooooootally useless information department (well, except the part about R. Washington's birthday, and getting ejected, which tied into our starting pitchers sharing birthday stat...) (Andre) Either way, thak you Jayson Starks!!
http://espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/... |
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May-05-12
 | | Phony Benoni: The Nolan Ryan ejection mentioned by Stark was the only one of Ryan's career--and it wasn't even the Robin Ventura Incident. Ryan stayed in the game after that one. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... I found a great quote by Dave Duncan: "A good day against Nolan Ryan is going 0 for 4 and you don't get hit in the head." |
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| May-05-12 | | Jim Bartle: I didn't realize Ryan had hit Ventura twice in that game. There are so many quotes about Ryan, so much of a legend about him. And on many days they must have been merited--I had a tape of him treating the Giants like a Little League team in 1987 (the year he went 6-16), to the point that SF catcher Bob Brenly was just laughing after striking out on a monster curve. But his overall record doesn't back up so much talk. Batters hit .242 against him in his career, which is good but not exceptional, plus he walked more batters at a higher rate than almost any other pitcher, leading his league in walks eight times. And he did manage to lose 292 games. |
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| May-05-12 | | Jim Bartle: While looking up Ryan I found there was a player named The Only Nolan: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pla... |
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| May-05-12 | | Jim Bartle: Oops, that 8-16 for Ryan with Houston in 1987, not 6-16. He did manage to lead the league in ERA, though. |
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| May-05-12 | | playground player: I remember when the Mets traded a shiny new Nolan Ryan for...I forget who. Nobody I'd have any reason to remember! |
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| May-05-12 | | Jim Bartle: Jim Fregosi.
Maybe the Mets thought he was about burned up, wouldn't last much longer. After all, he did retire only 22 years later. |
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May-05-12
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| May-05-12 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> Thank you! Jim Fregosi it certainly was--a good player in his time, but that time had passed. At about the same time, the Mets also traded away a brand-new Amos Otis for Joe Foy. Did Bela Lugosi make them do it, or what? |
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May-05-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <playground player> Everyone knows about the Fregosi trade, but I didn't recall Amos Otis for Joe Foy. It seemed strange to me since Foy and Fregosi both played third, so I looked into it. In 1969, the Mets won the World Series with Wayne Garrett at third base. He hit only .218, and was viewed as an utility player anyway, so they went shopping and traded Otis for Joe Foy, who had showed some promise with the Red Sox in 1967. Foy was a complete bust in 1970, and the Mets let him go to the New Washington Senators in the expansion draft. They brought in veteran Bob Aspromonte from Atlanta in a trade for Ron Herbel, who hit well enough to play third base for the Mets but whose pitching career was about over. Aspromonte tried third base in 1971, but he was about out of gas. The Mets let him go at the end of the year, and pulled the trigger on the Fregosi - Ryan trade. Fregosi flopped in 1972, and was relegated to a utility role in 1973 when the Mets went back to the World Series with third baseman ... Wayne Garrett, who had never left the team. The mind boggles at what they might have been with a little more faith in Garrett. |
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| May-05-12 | | Jim Bartle: Right, Herbel was a real slugger.
In the 90s Sports Illustrated had a long poem about the Mets' attempts to find a decent third baseman, and managed to weave in someting like thirty names. |
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May-05-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Substance abuse costs the Yankees a game in 1915!
http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%... |
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May-05-12
 | | Phony Benoni: The mind boggles at the thought of how this sportswriter would have described Mia Hamm's celebration upon winning the World Cup: http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%... |
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May-05-12
 | | WannaBe: You mean Christie Chastain, right? Also, did you scroll down and read the article on IBB? |
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May-05-12
 | | WannaBe: News: This day in history, rookie Tom LaSorda ties a major league record by throwing three wild pitches in a single inning. Reaction: Viva la Cinco de Mayo, Oy Vey!! No Bueno! =) |
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May-05-12
 | | Phony Benoni: No, I guess I meant Brandi Chastain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandi...
Though I imagine his reaction to Mia Hamm would be similar in any event. |
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May-05-12
 | | WannaBe: Correction, Tom LaSorda was NOT a rookie that year. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... He started, pitched 1 inning, and uncorked 3 WPs. Aye carumba! |
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May-05-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Don't know why they took him out. He was pitching a no-hitter. On 5/5/55, no less.
By the way, you were right the first time. He only pitched nine innings the previous year, so he was still technially a rookie. |
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| May-05-12 | | Jim Bartle: Now that is hilarious: "Too Much Raisin Cake." |
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May-06-12
 | | WannaBe: Courtesy of San Francisco Chronicle:
Dave Stewart (ex-A's pitcher) is now an agent, and Matt Kemp is one of his client. Rivera's injury can be blamed on Eric Chavez, how you ask? Eric Chavez went on the DL, and Nix was called up, it was his fly-ball that Rivera tried to catch. When Rivera retires, there will be no more 42 (except Robinson Day). He is last one to be grandfather'd. |
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May-06-12
 | | WannaBe: The LA Kings have a left-winger, named Dwight King.
Guessing that finding someone named Brown and play(ed) foor Cleveland would be too easy? A's have a pitcher name Dallas Braden, too bad he don't play for the Mavs.. Any ol' timers that I have forgotten? Maybe the SF Giants can trade Angel Pagan to Los Angeles Angel of Anaheim. That would be very fitting. Angel playing for the Angels, in the city of Angels. (Well, almost, they ARE in Anaheim.) |
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May-06-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <WannaBe> Look for yourself: http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/an... But, just to save you the trouble:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
I imagine most baseball teams would have a page with a complete list of players. |
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