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| Aug-17-12 | | playground player: <Big Ed Walsh pitched 464 innings in 1908. Hmmm... I wonder how many quality starts he had? But at least on a team with only three home runs you don't have to worry about anyone pinch-hitting for you. |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Quality starts: Well, he averaged over 9 innings per game, with an ERA of 1.24. By the way, a lot of teams scored fewer runs than the White Sox that year. |
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Aug-17-12
 | | Phony Benoni: In 1908, Walsh started 49 games, and completed 42. However, he also had 17 relief appearances, finishing the game sixteen of those times. By today's standards, he also would have had 6 saves. So that makes 66 games in all, about 7 innings per game. We don't yet have the box score detail to figure out how many innings per start. For some reason, Walsh pitched only half as many innings in 1909. In 1910 he had a good news/bad news year. He had the best ERA of his career at 1.27, but only went 18-20 as the White Sox scored only 2.5 runs per game for him. About 40% of the runs Walsh allowed that year were unearned. |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Oops, forgot to look at relief appearances.
I did see his first start wasn't until the fourth game. Fortunate they didn't waste him in the opener, as this powerful team scored 15 runs. |
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Aug-17-12
 | | WannaBe: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b... |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Whoa, suspended guy could win the batting title? Embarrassing. I remember in 1968, not because of scandal but the rules, there was worry that the injured Tony Oliva's .293 would win the AL batting title, when it had never been below .300. In the end Yastrzemski came to the rescue with a mighty .301. |
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Aug-17-12
 | | Phony Benoni: http://content.usatoday.com/communi... That probably ruins Doug DeCinces' Hall of Fame chances forever. But suppose this had come up before Murray's election--does he get in? I'd say OK, since he immediately stood up and took his punishment. |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Oooooh, they were caught stealing signs, like having a guy with binoculars beyond centerfield relaying pitches to the hitters. I think Murray would have been elected even had this occurred earlier. Doug deCinces: did he ever even get a vote? Good player, far from HOF material. |
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Aug-17-12
 | | Phony Benoni: DeCinces got two votes his first year of eligibility, which was not enough to stay on the ballot: http://www.baseball-reference.com/a... He tied with Davey Lopes (who I might have expected to do a bit better) and Andre Thornton, but ahead of Cecil Cooper, Garry Matthews, Hal McRae, and Darrell Porter. Decent middle infielder with some pop, but certainly not HOF caliber. It was a tough year with Reggie Jackson, Phil Niekro, and Steve Garvey all up for the first time. |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: The Tigers broadcast's girl-in-the-stands was showing the Prince Fielder bobblehead, saying it looks nice but is too slender, and at the exact moment Fielder popped one about sixty feet beyond the centerfield fence. |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Minnesota got a hit in the fifth inning, ending a streak of 42 straight batters retired by Seattle pitchers. Most since 1974. |
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Aug-17-12
 | | WannaBe: Saw this, while watching this SF-SD massacre, on this date, Mays got his last hit, who was the pitcher that gave up that hit? |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Last hit, or last hit as a Giant? |
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Aug-17-12
 | | WannaBe: Career last hit. |
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| Aug-17-12 | | Jim Bartle: Too easy to look up. Not as great as the pitcher he got his first hit off of, but was pretty darn good until he hurt his arm, as did all the Cincinnati fireballers in those years it seems. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <JB> If we're including postseason, I think you missed the World Series. |
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| Aug-18-12 | | Jim Bartle: But WannaBe said the hit came on this date... |
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Aug-18-12
 | | Phony Benoni: Then something's askew. Here is his last regular season hit: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... Ah, I get it! August 17th was his last career home run. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | WannaBe: Either I read the question wrong, or the TV had it wrong, or the Sierra Nevada had it wrong. I take full credit for the 'wrong'. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | WannaBe: P.S. The answer on TV was Gullet, so it is most likely, that I misread the question, TV was too far away, and my friend Sierra Nevada also misread the question. But retrosheet did have Cin-NY playing on this day, and Gullet was the pitcher. So... (I blame Sierra Nevada). |
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| Aug-18-12 | | Jim Bartle: Speaking of Don Gullett, though Cincinnati had a great team in the 70s, they had either really bad luck or mishandled some very good pitchers coming up with arm injuries. Wayne Simpson, Don Gullett and Gary Nolan all had short or relatively short careers given their ability. It doesn't sound as extreme as the A's staff from 1980-81, but it wasn't good. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | WannaBe: At Oakland Coleseum, just between 3rd and foul pole, field level. Have to keep my eyes open for balls coming my way. They are celebrating the 20 game winning streak. Roy Steel just got introduced to the crowd, still half an hour until first pitch. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | WannaBe: Out of town scoreboard are crap! The video board is crap, too! Watching B. Colon warming up... Saw this question in the program: how is it possible, for a run to be unearned for the team, but earned for the pitcher who gave it up? |
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Aug-18-12
 | | WannaBe: If I read the program correctly, the A's only have 4 players on the current roster that are signed beyond this year. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <Out of town scoreboard are crap! The video board is crap, too! Watching B. Colon warming up...> Is it possible the two are related?
As for the unearned run question, here's chapter and verse from Rule 10.16i: <"(i) When pitchers are changed during an inning, the relief pitcher shall not have the benefit of previous chances for outs not accepted in determining earned runs."Rule 10.16(i) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.16(i) to charge a relief pitcher with earned runs for which such relief pitcher is solely responsible. In some instances, runs charged as earned against the
relief pitcher can be charged as unearned against the team. For example: "(1) With two out and Peter pitching, Abel reaches first base on a base on balls. Baker reaches first base on an error. Roger relieves Peter. Charlie hits a home run, scoring three runs. The official scorer shall charge two unearned runs to Peter, one earned run to Roger and three
unearned runs to the team (because the inning should have ended with the third out when Baker batted and an error was committed)."> |
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