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Jul-30-16
 | | WannaBe: <David Schoenfield
ESPN Senior Writer
One of the strangest statistical oddities of the season: Jacoby Ellsbury has now reached base 10 times on catcher's interference, one-third of all CIs this season. No other player has more than two and Ellsbury has broken the previous record of eight, set by Roberto Kelly in 1992.> |
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Jul-30-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Tigers cored 14 runs yesterday. They were a little harder to come by tonight, and they had to do things the hard way: http://m.tigers.mlb.com/det/video/t... |
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Jul-31-16
 | | saffuna: How many players would have run that hard on a routine popup? |
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Jul-31-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Maybin has been a sparkplug. A decade ago he was the Tigers' prize prospect, a potential five-skill superstar. But his one MLB trial didn't go well, and he was part of the bunch of players that went to Miani in the Miguel Cabrera trade. Not a bad deal.
Since then he's bounced around, hitting in the mid-200s with little power, but showing speed and defense. He came back in a trade over the winter, missed the first third of the season with a spring training injury, but since his return has been magic, just slapping the ball around, scoring runs, and generally having the time of his life. It's heartening when a potential superstar doesn't pan out, but instead of becoming bitter takes his lessons to heart and accepts what he is. |
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Jul-31-16
 | | saffuna: There are other examples of that. I think Knicks forward Kurt Thomas was supposed to be a huge star, was NCAA scoring champion, but accepted being a supporting player as power forward. Frank Tanana was an oustanding fastball pitcher, was hurt, and came back as an effective junkballer without complaining. There must be many more examples. |
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Jul-31-16
 | | WannaBe: Ichiro pinch-hit today, went 0-1. |
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Jul-31-16
 | | WannaBe: Bochy is nuts, he pinch hits for M. Cain (no hitter in progress) and the hitter? MadBum. MadBum then promptly got hisself a double. And that's not all, he then pinch runs for MadBum. The runner? J. Samardzija. Bochy and Maddon must be competing for the craziest manager of the year award. |
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Jul-31-16
 | | WannaBe: Sure enough, pinch pitcher Kontos gives up a hit. |
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Jul-31-16
 | | Penguincw: Sigh, Jays lose 6-2 in 12 innings. Wasn't easy getting through the bullpen with the 2nd lowest ERA in the AL, and also losing the DH. < WannaBe: Ichiro pinch-hit today, went 0-1. > He also had 2 at bats yesterday, but still no hits.
< Bochy is nuts, he pinch hits for M. Cain (no hitter in progress) > Well, no-hit is gone, but I can understand pinch hitting Cain for Mad Bum. I don't understand the move to pinch-run MadBum for Samardzija though (seems pointless). |
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Jul-31-16
 | | WannaBe: Got a chance to look at the link posted by <Penguincw> on the TPs through history put together by SABR. Took me a minute or two to realize what the * are for. That's where the out(s) are recorded. Some of them are really interesting:
<1969-08-29 1 NL Atlanta Braves vs Chicago Cubs 0 0 -23 3*-6-2-5-1-4*-7* Orlando Cepeda 1b,Gil Garrido ss,Bob Didier c,Clete Boyer 3b,Pat Jarvis p,Felix Millan 2b,Rico Carty lf Billy Williams Glenn Beckert Don Kessinger Seven players involved in triple play, tying a record. First triple play for Atlanta Braves. > The way to read that 'mess', is:
year-month-day, inning, Defensive team, Offensive Team (or read the name of the players who was involved), game score, men on (second and third -23), defensive players involved. And any notes related. First out was ground ball at first, threw to second, then home, then third, now, fun starts. Which base was the pitcher covering? Home? That's my guess. Then back to second base? And the final out was recorded at third base by the Left Fielder? There was two run downs?
<1959-09-27 3 AL Chicago White Sox at Detroit Tigers 5 2 12- 1-5*-5*-2-6* Bob Shaw p,Bubba Phillips 3b,John Romano c,Luis Aparicio ss B3 Gail Harris Harvey Kuenn Tom Morgan > Oh, fun, let's see if I can figure out what happened here. Bottom third inning, Tigers on offense, score is 5-2. Men on first and second, no outs (Duh!!) Looks like a come backer to the pitcher, throws to third and then? What happened? Did he ran to second to get the second out? Then a throw home? Did the batter got greedy and got thrown out at second? |
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Jul-31-16
 | | saffuna: Here's the retrosheet description:
<Harris reached on a fielder's choice that turned into a
triple play [Morgan out at home (pitcher to third), Harris out
at second (third unassisted), Kuenn out at home (third to
catcher to shortstop)];>
This was the last game of the season as the Sox prepared for the World Series. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... |
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Jul-31-16
 | | WannaBe: <saffuna> That description makes no sense at all... <Morgan out at home (pitcher to third)> Huh?? Score said 1-5*-5*. So pitcher threw to third, caught the man coming from second. Description said out at home?? |
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Jul-31-16
 | | saffuna: You are right. I can't figure it out either. As I read it Morgan was on third and Kuenn was on first. So Morgan probably got thrown out trying to come home (a smart move to come home, as it appears to eliminate the double play). Kuenn and the batter Harris tried to advance to second and third. Harris was thrown out at second, and Kuenn was then thrown out either trying to score or getting caught off third. Of course that doesn't fit the 1-5-5-2-6 notation in the slightest. |
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Jul-31-16
 | | WannaBe: Baseball "Oddities":
TEX 62-44, NYM 54-50. What do they have in common? Same Run Differential (+9) I'm sure the modified Pythagorean calculation have something to say about this. (Colorado Rockies, 52-53 have +8 RD. Go fig.) |
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Jul-31-16
 | | saffuna: The only thing really odd there is Texas 18 above .500 with only plus 9. The others are within normal bounds. |
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Aug-01-16
 | | Penguincw: < WannaBe: ... Bochy and Maddon must be competing for the craziest manager of the year award. > Well, Maddon has made his move: despite being down 6 runs, the Cubs rallied for 7 unanswered to win in 12 (including a 3-run 9th). It looks like Maddon tried to get every pitcher involved too, be it on the mound, field, or plate (Jon Lester with that game winning RBI squeeze). Red Sox also rallying, down 3 runs and their last out, they got 5 runs in the 9th. |
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Aug-01-16
 | | saffuna: How do you like your Cubs now <animal>? Three runs in the ninth and a big win. A pitcher made a nice catch against the leftfield ivy. (The pitcher at that moment didn't make the catch, that would have been spectacular. A pitcher playing leftfield made the catch.) |
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| Aug-01-16 | | Party Animal: <saffuna> Saff, I really enjoyed that 9th inning! ; P https://htkilburn.files.wordpress.c... |
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| Aug-01-16 | | Party Animal: Joe Maddon, "every managerial decision I make is meticulously thought out". ; P http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-d... |
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Aug-01-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Just glanced at the Cubs box score and highlights. I just love those National League games where both team appear to have bought multiple extra card sets from Strate-o-Matics. Using Jon Lester as a pinch-hitter is the Ultimate Move of Genius -- when it works. Casey Stengel was probably just as good a manager with Brooklyn and Boston as he was wit the Yankees. Creative strategy is not much help when the players aren't good enough to execute it. |
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Aug-01-16
 | | saffuna: What really upsets me is the networks or MLB or someone doesn't put up a notice that "THIS WILL BE A GREAT GAME." I went to bed with the score 6-3. If I'd known the Cubs would stage a 9th inning comeback I would have stayed up to watch. Looked to me as if the wind was blowing IN last night. Rizzo hit a drive to center in the 7th that absolutely looked like a home run, but it barely reached the warning track. |
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Aug-01-16
 | | WannaBe: Apparently Marlins were smart enough to keep the receipt and returned defective "product". http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1... Bad moves by the Dodgers, they got two rentals (a.k.a. soon to be Free Agents) for future prospects. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1... |
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Aug-01-16
 | | WannaBe: Don't look now, Detroit have won 6 in a row, and will host ChiSox for 3, and NYM for 3 to conclude this week, Tue-Sun. (Before they go on the road to Seattle and Texas). Break up the Tigers. |
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Aug-01-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Not too excited yet; Tigers have been feast or famine all year. The sweep of Houston was interesting. They demolished them on Friday and Sunday, but won Saturday's game on sheer hustle. I've already shown you Maybin's play from Saturday. Here the titanic winning blast: http://m.mlb.com/video/v989862683/h... |
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Aug-01-16
 | | saffuna: When I saw that it looked as if the pitcher didn't hustle over to the base. Looked as if he was measuring his steps to hit the base with his right foot. |
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