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| Oct-13-09 | | Jim Bartle: I agree. That was a very exciting game. Though the Jets lost, that Sanchez looks like a great quarterback. |
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| Oct-13-09 | | technical draw: <I wonder if this portends anything for the league championships or World Series...> Yes it portends that the Yankees will win it all. |
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| Oct-13-09 | | hangingenprise: phony: dang those blackhawks. they are going to be tough! the red wings will hold there own. |
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| Oct-13-09 | | hangingenprise: <dzechiel>like i have been saying; look on your shoulder and you'll see an angel team coming on strong! |
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Oct-13-09
 | | Phony Benoni: I had occasion to find this earlier today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNMy...
"There's nothing real in the world any more!"
I had the displeasure of watching this game live, as I had money riding on the Chargers. Haven't bet on a game since. |
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| Oct-13-09 | | Jim Bartle: That was the immortal Bill King's call on the radio. King was the Warriors' announcer from their first year in SF, as good a play-by-play man as I've ever heard ("Holy Toledo!"). Later he started doing the Raiders and then the A's as well. He was excellent in all the sports, but really shone in basketball. |
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| Oct-13-09 | | Jim Bartle: Really interesting article in this week's New Yorker by Malcolm Gladwell on the long-term effects of blows to the head in football: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/... Pretty scary. He also mixes dogfighting into the story, which I didn't really like. |
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Oct-15-09
 | | Phony Benoni: It ain't over when it's over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8-... |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: Really dumb on the part of the defense. But I'd really like some clarification on that rule. Say the defense had fought for the ball and the offense had recovered. Would they then have a new set of downs? |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: OK, I checked. If the ball falls behind the line of scrimmage after a block, it's a free ball and can be advanced by the offense. However if they recover it's just like a fumble, so it counts as a down. So assuming the kick was on 4th down, the ball would be turned over on downs. Duh.
As I remember, Leon Lett of the Cowboys once gave the other team a TD by trying to recover a blocked kick downfield. The offense then picked it up and ran it in for a touchdown. |
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Oct-15-09
 | | WannaBe: If the defense fought for the ball, and get possession, it's their ball. The ball is still 'live', if the kicking team recovers it, the ball would be spotted where the ball was recovered. If the kicking team had advanced the ball enough for a first-down, the offense will re-take the field, maintain possession. If not, the other team comes on the field. That's why soccer is so much more popular than football... =) |
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Oct-15-09
 | | Phony Benoni: The line of scrimmage is the key. Once a kick goes past that point (and is not a successsful field goal) it is treated as a punt, and the kicking team can recover possession only if the other team touches it first. That was the Leon Lett play; he didn't realize that, essentially, he was trying to return a punt. As long as the kick remains behind the line of scrimmage, either team may recover and advance it. The offensive teams very rarely does so since they usually have fewer players in position to do so. That play was on the local news around here, and included a segment when the announcer said, "Well, there's one kid who won't have to take exams for a week!" |
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Oct-15-09
 | | keypusher: <Jim Bartle> The Dolphins were the beneficiaries of Leon Lett's brainfreeze. They didn't score, but were able to kick a field goal from point blank range to win. It was quite a game even apart from the finale. It was played after a freak winter storm. Miami was quarterbacked by 39-year-old Steve DeBerg, their third-stringer. Neither team could run except for a freak 77 TD by Keith Byars, who was mostly a pass receiver by then, and a 64-yard punt return by the Cowboys. On both plays the defenders simply fell down. DeBerg played a tremendous game but the Phins would have lost 14-13 if not for Leon. Strangest of all, after this win the Dolphins lost their last five straight to finish 9-7 and miss the playoffs. The Cowboys won their last five straight and went right on winning until they had beaten the Bills 30-13 in the Super Bowl. As in chess, I know some football history, so I am thrilled that the Dolphins now are running a cross between the old single wing and the 1961 shotgun of the 49ers. |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: The Red Hickey shotgun? The one that led the 49ers to trade YA Tittle and try to depend on Billy Kilmer? |
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| Oct-15-09 | | technical draw: Ok, Yankee bashers, have fun with this one:
http://www.theonion.com/content/new... |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: At those injured Yanks have what feels like several months to recover before the ALCS. |
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Oct-15-09
 | | keypusher: <Jim Bartle> Kilmer, John Brodie and Bob Waters. Kilmer ran, Brodie threw, and Waters did both. They alternated on every play. Here's the Shotgun's apotheosis: http://www.pro-football-reference.c... 20 carries for 115 yards and 4 TDs for Kilmer, 209 yards passing for Brodie. Unfortunately the next week the Bears blew up the Shotgun. http://www.pro-football-reference.c... |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: I remember that game. The Bears changed to a five-man defensive line, moving middle linebacker Bill George into a down position over the center. And the 49ers couldn't move the ball. Funny to think of Kilmer as a quick back, remembering him from his lumbering days and the wobbly passes with Washington. I saw him play for UCLA against Stanford in 1960, running the single wing brilliantly. |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Travis Bickle: It seems like the football season will end before The World Series is over! ; P |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: Announcers: "The Dodgers won 51 games this year when Manny either didn't play or didn't get a hit." Is that exceptional? Doesn't seem so to me. |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: A couple tidbits in the box for the first game KP links to: Hugh McElhenny playing for the Vikings is obviously a misprint. He will forever be a 49er. The 49ers didn't complete any passes to their wide receivers--all to a running back and the tight end. Except two to Abe Woodson, who was a starting defensive back. |
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Oct-15-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <JB> Just probably trying to make the point that the Dodgers are not one-dimensional, but can win without Manny contributing. |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Jim Bartle: Yes, but I suspect you could say the same with most stars on good teams, if the player was injured (or suspended) for a month or two. I just don't think it's so out of the ordinary. I'm listening to Chip Caray for the first time after reading how terrible he's been. And I see why. Loney's homer was a "low line drive." (Are there any other kind?) And when the Dodger swung and missed on the wild pitch for strike three, he obviously didn't realize he was out by rule. Sounded like his partners didn't want to embarrass him by correcting the call. |
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| Oct-15-09 | | Travis Bickle: JB The only reason why Chip is a major league baseball announcer is because of his grandfather Harry Carey period. |
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| Oct-15-09 | | technical draw: Well, Manny comes through. That's what he gets the big bucks for. |
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