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Jan-16-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Cardinals are slipping. Took them 19 seconds to score. |
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| Jan-16-10 | | Jim Bartle: I'm looking at the reports at cnnsi.com, and it reports conditions as "fog, 56 degrees." I'd think they could make it more pleasant inside the Superdome. |
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| Jan-16-10 | | Travis Bickle: Kurt Warner almost got killed with that blindside hit! |
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| Jan-16-10 | | Travis Bickle: Marques Colston is a giant wide reciever!! |
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| Jan-16-10 | | Jim Bartle: Has there ever been a player whose career more resembles a soap opera than Kurt Warner? He's been up and down about five times, plus he's got that wife who calls up radio shows to berate those who criticize him. He's had brilliant stretches of passing, incredible stuff, and then times when he fumbles every other play or can't avoid the rush to save his life. |
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Jan-17-10
 | | Phony Benoni: A regular season game with 13 Hall-of-Famers playing: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... |
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| Jan-17-10 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Before I open the Retrosheet game, let me guess: Yanks vs. A's, 1927. Hall of Famers available: NY, Ruth, Gehrig, Combs, Lazzeri, Hoyt, Pennock; Phil, Simmons, Cobb, Cochrane, Wheat, Grove, E. Collins, Foxx... Did I miss any? Now to check out the game and see if I was right. |
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| Jan-17-10 | | playground player: 1928 instead of 1927--off by a year!
Amazing any team, even the Yankees, could handle Lefty Grove that roughly--and with Babe Ruth getting only one hit. |
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Jan-17-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <playground player> Good gues! Looking at the team rosters, I see the A's got all their HOFers into the game, while the Yankees still had Herb Pennock, Stan Coveleskie and Bill Dickey in reserve. |
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Jan-17-10
 | | WannaBe: < Jim Bartle: "Does it really matter that Brett Favre is 0-3 against Dallas in the playoffs?" Of course it does. It means he's "due.">
Good call, hope you won a bunch of money on the game, Minn. -2.5 |
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| Jan-17-10 | | Jim Bartle: And later I learned the last of Favre's three losses to Dallas was in 1995. Not exactly relevant today. |
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Jan-17-10
 | | Phony Benoni: I'm trying to get my baseball fix by fooling around with some of my old Strat-O-Matic baseball cards. I'm playing with 78 "classic" teams from 1905-1976, and strange things happen when players from different eras clash. I thought it was bad enough when Hector Lopez hit three triples in one game. But now it's George Moriarty, the third baseman on the 1909 Detroit Tigers. He hit one home run the entire season, but just got two in consecutive at bats. Off Sandy Koufax. |
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| Jan-17-10 | | Jim Bartle: Sure, why not? I think Bob Uecker hit Koufax well, or at least one of the big guys from the 60s. And maybe it was Koufax circa 1959. Looking at some data, and I see around 1930 there were around 50 Hall of Famers playing. Six or seven at several positions. In the eighties it was more like 20 each year. |
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Jan-17-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Part of that is Veterans Committee selections. By 2050, there will be more Hall-of-Famers from the 1980s. But a larger number is probably due to the offensive explosion during the 20s and 30s, when many numbers were inflated. It was probably like playing all the games at Coors Field. By the way, Bob Uecker hit only .184 against Koufax--which, considering how he hit in general, was quite good. But in looking at Koufax's breakdown against all hitters: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... I think you may have been thinking of Bill Virdon, who was over .400 with 50+ ABs against Koufax. Hank Aaron was also very good (.362), but most of the gaudy numbers were obviously from Koufax's early years. |
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| Jan-17-10 | | Jim Bartle: Agree more from the 80s will make Hall of Fame, but still stay only about half of 1930. In 1930, with only sixteen teams, six had HOF first basemen, five had HOF shortstops, six had HOF center fielders, and seven had HOF right fielders. And those were all regulars, not including players at the tail end of their careers, or just starting. I remember that Uecker hit one of the top pitchers pretty well, but can't remember which one. |
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Jan-18-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Judge for yourself. i don't think 2 for 3 against Drysdale counts. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... By the way, here's his home run against Koufax:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... In the Cardinals fifth, and notice two odd things: (1) the play-by-play points out that it bounced on top of the fence; (2) Koufax intentionally walked Uecker the next time up. |
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Jan-18-10
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <P B & J>
Thank you for such an illuminating and humorous response. Might I just close by mentioning how much I enjoy you for lunch with a cold glass of milk? |
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Jan-18-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <jessicafischerqueen> There are times when a careful silence is best, and this seems like one of them. |
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| Jan-18-10 | | A.G. Argent: What!? Jimmy Baseball (Edmonds) is lobbying LaRussa for a comeback with St. Louis? |
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Jan-18-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Seems as good a place as any, and better than most. Did they part on bad terms? |
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Jan-18-10
 | | jessicafischerqueen: lol it was you who gave me official permission to refer to you as "P B & J" which I took to mean "peanut butter and jelly sandwich." Surely a perennial favorite, no?
At any rate, the very best of 2010 to you and thanks again for your participation in the important "Big Three World Historical Project." I understand the last pow wow at Yalta went well. |
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| Jan-19-10 | | A.G. Argent: At first, I took it to mean <PB> and <J>, as in J. Bartle. You guys are a bit of a tag team. PB & J. Ham and eggs. Gin and tonic. Starsky and Hutch. Bob and Ray. Ferrante and Teicher. Evers and Chance. As for Edmonds and TLR, nope, they got along just fine. It was Rolen and La Russa who were oil and water. It's just that when Hollywood was traded to the Cubs in '07, I hated to see him go, whatever the reason. Now, the thought of him coming back? I don't know. Dude's 39 and fallen off in production. But if he got a legit shot at maybe being the 4th outfielder? They are lacking in depth there. (PS-30 days from now, pitchers and catchers will be in camp.) |
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Jan-19-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <A.G. Argent> Oh, that PB&J bit relates to my other activity around here, which is actually chess-related (odd as that may seem). And if <JB> and I were a team, we'd probably be the Odd Couple. He hangs around in all the evil neighborhoods that are too hot and spicy for my quiet and sensitive nature. I guess when you live amongst all those Peruvian volcanoes, nothing bothers you. (Just joking, Jim! Love having you around here as well.) |
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| Jan-19-10 | | Jim Bartle: Actually I live beneath and around the glacier-covered peaks, with the threat of massive avalanches or alluvions, not near volcanoes. http://miramonteclass68.com/Present... |
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| Jan-19-10 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: Speaking of food: in Peru there is the cute & delightful Guinea Pig Festival with the pigs dressed up in clever outfits - and then they are eaten, a true delicacy. Also, in the Andes there was that plane crash carrying members of a soccer team, some of whom were also eaten. |
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