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Aug-02-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <suenteus po 147> I have a collection of Alekhine's games which lists rounds and dates for all his games. Using that information, it's easy to reconstruct a complete schedule of pairings by using the standard Berger pairing table. However, you can't be 100% sure. So far the colors have worked out perfectly, but I hope there are some games in the database from other players with round numbers just so I could verify the reconstruction. Otherwise, I may have to post a disclaimer on the collection. |
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| Aug-02-10 | | crawfb5: I see that Google Books has a full-text version of Hermann Helms' book on the 1918 Manhattan CC Masters Tournament (Capablanca, Kostic, Marshall, Chajes, Janowski, Black, and Morrison): http://books.google.com/books?id=Xb... It has games scores, complete with rounds and dates. I do not see any current game collection on this tournament. I have done a few spot checks and CG does not have all the games, but those could be uploaded from the book. My question is, do you want to do a collection to keep the historical collections somewhat centralized or if you're occupied elsewhere, should I work on one? Granted, it's not the most important event of the century, but it shares the advantage of looking for your lost keys under the streetlight because the light is much better there... |
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| Aug-02-10 | | crawfb5: Ok, I'll start pulling the games we have to see what's missing. One tidbit in the book was that it was a 7-man tournament because Norman Tweed Whitaker was invited, but had to withdraw early in the tournament due to illness. Google Books is indeed amazing. Checking back from time to time is probably worthwhile, as you never know what "new" old treasures may have been added. I suppose at some point somebody could do a meta-collection of historic collections, but this late at night that just makes my head hurt. |
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| Aug-05-10 | | crawfb5: I have done most of what I can do with New York 1918. I have submitted the 9 missing games, but I imagine it will be some time before they are available to link. If you have any suggestions, additions, or corrections, let me know. Game Collection: New York 1918 |
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| Aug-05-10 | | hms123: <Phony Benoni> Have you seen this catch?
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi... |
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| Aug-05-10 | | A.G. Argent: <hms> That pretty much defies any and all laws of earthly physics. But because of the different camera angles there's no doubt it's real. Normal superlatives don't apply. |
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| Aug-05-10 | | hms123: <A.G.Argent> I have never seen anything remotely like it. I thought you guys would enjoy it. |
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| Aug-05-10 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: That catch is nothing to carp about. |
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| Aug-05-10 | | crawfb5: Thanks. Obviously Capablanca or Marshall don't really need a thumbnail summary, but I thought it might be useful for some of the players that aren't as well known today. I actually <do> have a suggestion for the round-by-round dilemma. In Helms' book on New York 1918, he gives a crosstable and then a <round-by-round> table. It would look something like this for the top three at New York: Capablanca 1 = 1 1 x 1 = 1 1 1 1 x 1 =
Kostic = x = 1 = = = 1 x 1 1 1 1 =
Marshall 0 0 x 1 = 1 1 0 1 x = 0 1 1
A quick glance shows how the race for first was decided. Capablanca, as expected, set the pace, giving up a few draws and no losses. Kostic was also undefeated, but was substantially behind by the tournament midpoint due to winning only one game out of his first six. Marshall was completely derailed by his 0-2 start. Something like this in addition to the crosstable might free you up to help the reader see the most important details without getting lost in the full monty. Just a thought.
I am considering doing a collection on Havana 1913. Marshall came in first ahead of Capablanca. It looks like we already have all of the games in the database and the town library has Winter's biography of Capablanca. I think I will take a look at it tomorrow to see what additional information it might provide. |
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| Aug-07-10 | | A.G. Argent: What? They're not really screaming for Leyland's head, are they? With all the guys on the DL like they are? Ordonez, Zumaya, Inge etc. Heart of the team. How can they put that on Leyland? Besides, it's still early August. |
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Aug-07-10
| | Phony Benoni: There is a vocal minority that has been screaming for Leyland's head since spring training. Every time he makes a decision that backfires--as 10% invariably do--the cry goes up that he's old and tired and incompetent and apathetic and never knew how to manage in the first place. I think these are the sort of people who press the elevator button when a dozen people are waiting and the signal light is already on, simply because they can do it so much better than anyone else. |
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| Aug-07-10 | | Jim Bartle: And he smokes, too!! |
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Aug-07-10
| | Phony Benoni: Not at Comerica Park. Smoking has been outlawed in most public places in Michigan, and he is complying (at least in view of the cameras). The main exception to the ban are casinos. Not like money has anything to do with that, of course. |
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| Aug-08-10 | | crawfb5: I am nearing completion on Game Collection: Havana 1913. I need to do some more work on the introductory material. I thought I would mention this now, because you might want to take a quick look at my crosstable. I may have stumbled upon a way to minimize CG's odd formatting for tables. Compare:
0 0 0 0 0 0
1 1 1 1 1 1
= = = = = =
<0> <0> <0> <0> <1> <1> <1> <1> <=> <=> <=> <=> I did have to fuss with the names a bit, but it's much more readable now. I have a tentative cumulative round-by-round arrangement, but I'm not sure if I'll keep it. It may take up too much space, although I do like the separation it provides as the field sorts out. |
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| Aug-08-10 | | A.G. Argent: <...elevator button...> Great analogy. |
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| Aug-08-10 | | just a kid: Do you think the Tigers season is over? |
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Aug-08-10
| | Phony Benoni: No, the Tigers' season is not over. They still have around 50 games to play. Contending is another matter. Right now, the question is whether they can hold on to third place. |
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| Aug-09-10 | | just a kid: Unfortunate really that Inge,Zumaya and Ordonez sustained injuries. |
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Aug-09-10
| | Phony Benoni: Yes, the Tigers have been snakebit this year, but they have real problems. The starting pitching has been inconsistent, and there is not a lot of power in the line-up once you intentionally walk Cabrera. More importantly, they're simply not getting big hits with runners in scoring position or manufacturing runs (which is one of the Twins' perennial strengths). There is some talk that Leyland may be considering retirement. He's 68, and the game is not a lot of fun right now. |
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| Aug-09-10 | | just a kid: <Phony Benoni> Plus,when you lost those people you had to play the Red Sox and the Rays while we had to play the Royals,Orioles,and Indians. And the White Sox just got plain hot. But it can't be worse than to be a D-Backs fan! (Edwin Jackson's 8-walk no-hitter was the highlight of the year,sorta sad) |
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| Aug-10-10 | | Travis Bickle: The White Sux got lucky again! The Sux are the luckiest team in baseball!! Case in point: 1 day I was actually watching the bums. Some Sux was batting I don't recall who but he had 2 strikes on him. The next pitch bounced in the dirt way in front of the plate but this eagle eye swung at it and struck out. BUT the pitch was so bad it hand cuffed the catcher caromed off the backstop and went into the dugout. So on a Strikeout the whitesux batter got the base he was going to plus 2nd. All in all he got a double for striking out! In the words of their obnoxious announcer Hawk Harrelson, it wasn't a ducksnort but it got the job done. P.S. Ducksnort = a ball hit weakly off the end of the bat (like most sux hits), that falls in for a hit and scores at least two runs. |
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| Aug-10-10 | | just a kid: <Travis Bickle> Didn't the White Sux lose? |
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Aug-10-10
| | Phony Benoni: <Travis> Maybe this game will make you feel better. Note that Harrelson was playing RF for the Red Sox. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... The Tigers got five straight singles in the bottom of the ninth to win the game, and every one of them was a ducksnort. Sometimes, a team is just destined to do well. This may the year of the Pale Hose. Sorry, Travis. |
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| Aug-10-10 | | Jim Bartle: And checking the record, that was the second game of a doubleheader, and Detroit had won the first game in 14. What a day for the Sox. I was guessing it was almost a formality in mid-August, with the Tigers having the last playoff-less pennant wrapped up, but they were only five games ahead of Baltimore at that time. So the sweep was pretty important. |
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Aug-10-10
| | Phony Benoni: Yes, that was the Gates Brown Memorial Doubleheader. They didn't call them walk-off hits in those days, but he ended game 1 with a pinch-hit home run and got the final single in game 2 as well. Gates endeared himself forever to Tigers' fans with the Hot Dog Incident. Normally, he was used as a pinch hitter late in the game, One day, around the 5th inning, he was feeling a bit peakish, snuck back into the clubhouse to grab a couple of hot dogs with all the fixings and sat in a far corner of the bench to eat them. Then manager Mayo Smith called on him to pinch hit early for once. Thinking quickly, Gates stuffed the hot dogs inside his jersey, walked to the plate, and hit one in the gap. Thinking not so quickly, he slid head first into second base. I think that may be where Charlie Finley got the idea for multi-colored baseball uniforms. |
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