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Sep-21-06
 | | chancho: <WannaBe> Yes, I did. |
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Sep-21-06
 | | Sneaky: <refutor: sneaky, are you anywhere near port st. lucie?> I'm about an hour's drive south. |
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Sep-21-06
 | | Sneaky: << mp3 of the day >> I tried to do Stevie Wonder but I couldn't find the track online, sorry. But we do have this... "One Nation Under a Groove".
http://www.math.grin.edu/~lundersk/... |
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Sep-21-06
 | | WannaBe: <Sneaky> Thank you for trying. I appreciated your effort. =) |
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Sep-21-06
 | | chancho: <Sneaky> Thanks man! |
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| Sep-21-06 | | refutor: <sneaky> cool i may be heading that way over the christmas holidays...i'll have to look you up for a game and a pint ;) |
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Sep-22-06
 | | Sneaky: <refutor> that sounds too cool! You have my email address, keep in touch. |
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Sep-22-06
 | | Sneaky: << mp3 of the day >> This is Julie Lodon, "Fly Me to The Moon"
http://www.husweb.net/~chheesup/dat... |
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| Sep-22-06 | | Benzol: <Sneaky> Is that suppose to be Julie London of "Cry Me A River" fame? |
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Sep-22-06
 | | Sneaky: The one and only! |
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| Sep-22-06 | | Benzol: Love her album "Her Name Is Julie". Brilliant singing with sparse instrumental backing. Pity they don't make them like that nowdays. |
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Sep-22-06
 | | Sneaky: I hope I've proven by this point that while I'm not musical expert, I do have a broad appreciation of music. Yes it's possible to like Julie London *and* Cypress Hill! |
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| Sep-22-06 | | JoeWms: A different perspective, <Sneaky>. When I was a teen, Julie London was to look at, to fantasize about. Now she is to listen to. Is she still with us? |
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Sep-22-06
 | | Sneaky: I'm afraid not, Julie left us in 2000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_... |
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| Sep-23-06 | | Benzol: I had it wrong, it's "Julie Is Her Name". I can remember her playing Dixie McCall in TVs Emergency but I didn't realise it ran for that long as a series. |
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| Sep-24-06 | | shr0pshire: <Sneaky> So who do you think is going to win the world championship? Not who do you want to win, but who do you think is going to win? I think Kramnik's going to win, and infact I bet on Kramnik before the whole match. I thought his experience in match play with Kasparov and Leko is invaluable. |
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| Sep-24-06 | | refutor: <experience in match play> it's true shropshire...once again it's been proven that tournaments and match play are two different beasts...kramnik loses two games a year and topalov's gotta beat him twice in the next 10 games. chances are slim to none for him (and a smack in the head in advance to whoever posts 3 2006 losses for krammy) ;) |
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Sep-24-06
 | | Sneaky: Shrop, well of course now Kramnik's up two points so the question hardly matters, but going into the match I'd say that Kramnik was a very very tiny favorite. I still think that assessment is true, but after Topalov having bad luck in round #1 and horrible luck in round #2 the match has almost finished before it began. At this stage I would give Topalov maybe a 5-10% chance of making enough of a comeback to tie the score now. |
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| Sep-25-06 | | shr0pshire: Well today's game was just a comedy of errors in my opinion. Kramnik blundered and then Topalov must've felt obligated to return the favor, but I still maintain my original argument and agree with you both that I think no matter the rating disparity Kramnik was the favorite coming into this event because he is the best match player (IMO) playing the game right now. |
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| Sep-25-06 | | BishopofBlunder: <Benzol: I had it wrong, it's "Julie Is Her Name". I can remember her playing Dixie McCall in TVs Emergency but I didn't realise it ran for that long as a series.> I must be your anti-matter counterpart. I loved Julie London on "Emergency", but, sadly, had no idea she had a singing career. |
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Sep-25-06
 | | Sneaky: The sign of a good match player is that in spite of their opponents preparation, they consistently get good middlegame positions, from both sides of the board. In that respect Kramnik has failed--he keeps getting inferior positions out of the opening. Then again, maybe that's the best way to play against Topalov: take it on the chin and hope he slips up, and very frequently he does. |
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| Sep-25-06 | | shr0pshire: <Sneaky> I don't think that Kramnik has got inferior positions. Now don't get me wrong I am not even that big of a Kramnik fan (I haven't even posted on his page on chessgames), but I think both middlegames were fairly even. In game one most of the analysis I have seen puts the game as equal until into the endgame in around move 50 or so. And in game 2 the analysis I have seen says the game was very complex, but Kramnik blundered and then Topalov. I feel like people are using their chess engines and tablebases and criticzing every move that doesn't coincide with their silicon beasts. That isn't how I play chess. I play the position which I think is much more subtle than engines can grasp. Cest le vie. |
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Sep-25-06
 | | Sneaky: I'm sorry I didn't find the middlegames equal at all--and I'm not saying that because of some dumb computer analysis. In my opinion its the silicon beasts that start rumors about "equal middlegames" ... 100 years ago if Lasker and Marshall got into this position click for larger viewIt would be dead obvious to all informed commentators that White has the upper hand here, in fact his position looks so dominating that you might even think that Black is lost if both sides play perfectly. However, in 2006, you feed this same position to a computer and it comes up with very weasley defenses that never prove that Black is alright but they sure muddy the water. And then people start saying things like "Black is fine!" or even "Black is winning!" because they saw some cryptic variation from Fritz that ended with -0.02 |
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| Sep-26-06 | | azaris: <It would be dead obvious to all informed commentators that White has the upper hand here, in fact his position looks so dominating that you might even think that Black is lost if both sides play perfectly.> Yeah, except that then they would quickly see Qb5 and start to calculate furiously to see how White can continue his attack (a pawn down). <However, in 2006, you feed this same position to a computer and it comes up with very weasley defenses that never prove that Black is alright but they sure muddy the water. And then people start saying things like "Black is fine!" or even "Black is winning!" because they saw some cryptic variation from Fritz that ended with -0.02> Come now, most engines were saying that Black was winning by a lot more than that after Qb5. It wasn't at all obvious that after Qc2 White would have a winning attack. |
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| Sep-26-06 | | acirce: <Come now, most engines were saying that Black was winning by a lot more than that after Qb5.> But that's only because they weren't allowed to run long enough. Fritz understands the position much better after a while. (Or maybe rather quickly on good hardware.) Many, including myself at times, make the mistake of trusting an early eval too much. <It wasn't at all obvious that after Qc2 White would have a winning attack.> He hadn't.
But yes, it's not so strange that for a human observer it wasn't easy to see the two (!) queen sacrifices that White needed to have at his disposal. Kramnik himself thought he was fine, but it's easy enough to be clever with hindsight. |
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