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| Feb-01-07 | | Marco65: I could open the link from Yahoo to get to http://chesscoach1977.blogspot.com/... on the Scheveningen, but none of the 5 links to Najdorf works! It must be a server problem. Wikipedia has very little about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicili... |
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| Feb-01-07 | | Marco65: <TheAlchemist> Those articles might be interesting, if you happen to open them can you post something here? Or download the files somewhere else? Thanks |
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| Feb-01-07 | | Marco65: Another solution: use "Najdorf site:chesscoach1977.blogspot.com" with Google, and then click "cached copy" besides each link. |
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Feb-01-07
 | | TheAlchemist: Or better yet, I will download all pages and add them to a zip file, which I'll then upload on sendspace.com. I'll post the link in my profile. I hope it'll work. |
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| Feb-01-07 | | dakgootje: Same problem as Marco, can get to site the yahoo-link linked to, but not able to get to the Najdorf. <Rocafella> I'm still around, if you post here at some random place a post with the word dak or dakgootje in it, I will certainly find it at some time, as around every other day I check for those words with search kibitzing ;-) ps: Glad some agreed with my post =) |
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Feb-01-07
| | TheAlchemist: <Everybody> Ok, I've finished downloading some of the pages, they're huge because of all the diagrams so I omitted them, it shouldn't matter. Please check the bottom of my profile. I hope we can find them useful. Otherwise, that site is great, contains every imaginable opening, I didn't check them all, because it takes a lot of time to load and a hell of a lot of clicking on the refresh button to actually start to get them to load, so you get the picture... :-) |
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| Feb-01-07 | | Marco65: My OCR has trouble with figurine (of course) so I have to edit every move. For the time being, just the introduction that Sam Collins gives. ---
NAJDORF SET-UP
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Black has a backward d-pawn and a weak square on d5, though it is difficult for White to exploit either - the d-pawn is well guarded, while occupation of d5 often simply results in exchanges. All of White's necessary pawn play entails problems as well as prospects: a4 weakens the b4-square, while f4 leaves the e-pawn vulnerable. Black will normally play ...b5 and Bb7 to increase the pressure on e4, which can be further augmented with ...Nbd7-c5 (an exchange sacrifice on c3, as indicated in a later diagram, is also common). A very tense game is in prospect. NAJDORF
1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 a6
This is the Armani of chess openings - played religiously by Garry Kasparov and at least sometimes by everyone else, the opening has taken its thematic birth from Miguel Najdorf and development by Fischer to become one of the most respected variations around. While ...a6 is always a useful move in Sicilian positions, here it has the specific point of preparing ...e5, which can't be played immediately since 5...e5?! 6 Bb5+, soon to be followed by Nf5, will leave White in full control of the central light squares. ---
I'll add more interesting stuff when 6th move is known. But I start to be a little scared. I have a full recent book on Sveshnikov and you convinced me to play the Najdorf. Are you telling me we are going to play it without a monographic work at hand??? |
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Feb-01-07
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Fantastic source material you gathered there on <Najdorf>. I was able to download all of it and have been going through the various possibilites. I've already done a fair bit of research this past week on white playing Bg5-- I think it's good for us if White puts his bishop there. I think it's a bigger headache for us if White sticks that bishop on e3. Today I've been looking at <poison pawn> variations. I still don't think it's worth it for us to take the b2 pawn if they end up offering it to us. I know that taking the pawn is considered sound theoretically, but I just think it is unnecessarily awkward to have our Queen forced to A3. Then we have work to do in order to safely and profitably place her somewhere useful. I think that black invariably loses tempi by taking the poison pawn--
And white gets quick development.
Look what <Anand> did with the opportunity for quick white development when he gave up the poison pawn playing against black Najdorf at <Corus>. Ok, going back to the <Najdorf> material you provided now. Last note for <Dragon> lovers-- depending on what white does, we can still fianchetto our bishop on g7 at some point. |
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| Feb-02-07 | | hitman84: <TheAlchemist>The link works fine for me. He has some very useful lines in there.
The line he concentrates on is a very critical line in the Najdorf. 14.ed5 is the main line.
E Berg vs P Negi, 2007
I feel Negi was under severe time pressure because of the no. of checks between move no. 30 - 40 The game should have ended in a draw thanks to some careless play by black in the ending, white won. Here is a mind blowing game in the same line! A game not for humans :)
The King vs Rybka, 2006
Black scores impressively in this line as white fails to sustain his attack for a longer period, the reason I feel the author concentrates on the 14.e5 line. Opening Explorer lets consider all three lines here..
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B Grabarczyk vs R Kuczynski, 2001
Black is a pawn up but has many islands and a bad ♗. White could have played the ending better. <2>
G Sanakoev vs K H Maeder, 1978
The author annotates 18...0-0 ? The reason...
Estrin vs K H Maeder, 1978
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This is the author's main line.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| Feb-02-07 | | Marco65: <TheAlchemist> I started looking at first chapter. The material is good, but I don't like the fact that we don't know anything about the author. I don't sense the depth of positional understanding that typically comes from an IM, for instance I found Sam Collins more convincing in explaining the reason behind 5...a6.
But if Hitman finds it accurate I think we can trust the material... |
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| Feb-02-07 | | Marco65: I hope I won't give the impression to criticize anything that comes out of others, but I think it's my duty to express my latest opinion on the material on chesscoach1977. First of all I found who's the author: http://www2.blogger.com/profile/130... As I suspected he is not even a master (nothing wrong, he might be stronger than me, but in fact I don't dare writing articles on opening theory). Then I looked at a Sicilian I know well, Sveshnikov. It's a 5 parts articles. He dedicates 3 articles out of 5 to explore the minor retreats of the knight at 6th move, that only deserves a chapter all together in latest Rogozenko's book. Then 2 parts are about the 9.Bxf6 variation. The other very popular move, 9.Nd5, that occupy a third of my Sveshnikov's book, doesn't deserve even a comment! He gives the impression to go really in depth, but actually the analysis lacks of any "width" to be really usable to play Sveshnikov with Black. Now, back to Najdorf: chapter 4 deals with 6.Be3 e6. Shouldn't the author mention we are transposing a Scheveningen? Or at least, we have a Scheveningen-like pawn structure? Not at all, he goes on like a rocket. Then, chapter 5 deals with 6.Be3 e5. And here, surprise! The author comments that 6...e6 would instead transpose to a Scheveningen, and references another article he wrote on Scheveningen. Did he forget he dealt with that variation one chapter earlier?? My conclusion: that's just a badly assembled "repertoire" material, maybe main lines are there but it lacks the width of a serious work and we run the risk to forget about interesting side variation if we just rely on that. |
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Feb-02-07
| | TheAlchemist: I never said we should rely solely on that, I said it could serve as an intro, maybe point out some pitfalls along the way. I have dug out a few annotated games in the Najdorf (by a GM this time :-)), and even found a short article on the Poisoned Pawn (by an IM), should we choose that. I also have a book from 1996 about the Sicilian in general, but where only variations are listed, with no comments. A suggestion I have, does someone have Kasparov's series OMGP, there should be plenty of Sicilians there (like in the book about Fischer and the ones following that), with Gary's own annotations (what can be better than that? :-)) Btw (whispering) I am also currently downloading a few pdfs, which I might upload, but since it might not be exactly legal, I never said that. |
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Feb-02-07
| | TheAlchemist: I have found something dealing with the early developments of the English Attack, starting with 6.Be3, I posted the link at the bottom of my profile. I went through it quickly, it mostly focuses on White's plans, but I think it may be useful for us too. The problem is that the theory has much evolved in these lines since (it's from 1986), but maybe we can still find some use in it. Better than nothing, I suppose. <I have a full recent book on Sveshnikov> That would have been useful on move 2 :-), not anymore. I was advocating for the Sveshnikov, but found little support. What can I do now? Still, I don't think we should panic, three little birds told me everything's going to be alright :-). Have faith in yourself and our team. We're here to have fun and possibly learn something in the process, aren't we? :-) |
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Feb-02-07
| | TheAlchemist: Ok, I've put 2 new links in my profile, I hope we can all find them useful. |
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| Feb-02-07 | | Marco65: <TheAlchemist> Yes very useful! It's interesting how theory changed during years. What about <brankat>? He's shutting down his forum, anybody is going to replace him as our TD? |
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| Feb-02-07 | | hitman84: Najdorf poisoned pawn variation.
I find this line interesting...
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6 8. Qd2 Nc6
click for larger viewhttp://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Kramnik vs Svidler, 2004
Svidler prematurely resigned.
J Dworakowska vs D Khismatullin, 2005
Black's double ♗ doing the trick.
Nakamura vs Karjakin, 2003
Nice game by Nakamura.
H Navin vs G N Gopal, 2006
A nice tactical game.
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| Feb-02-07 | | Rocafella: They will play f4 or Be3 I think |
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| Feb-02-07 | | chessmoron: 6...e6 7.f3, and
6...e5 7.Nb3 Be6 8.f3
Black also has
6...Ng4 7.Bg5 (or 7.Bc1) 7...h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Bg3 Bg7.
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| Feb-03-07 | | brankat: <CG.com TEAM> <ALL MY FRIENDS> I suppose I was not quite explicit about shutting down my Forum. So, just to clarify it. Not that it is by my own choice/design (although that can be argued, too), but my Prem. Membership expires by Midnight EST/Saturday, Feb/04. and, as it stands now, I'm not in any kind of a position to do anything about it. (Broke, is the word, I guess:-)) Once again. I wish to thank You all for Your help and consideration. The important thing is: THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!! |
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| Feb-03-07 | | Marco65: <<Attention team>> 6.Be3 was posted. If I'm correct that was done beyond time limit? Of course I don't want to win by that, but if that is true we should at least point it out otherwise it will happen again and again. |
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| Feb-03-07 | | Marco65: It seems main alternatives here are 6...e5, 6...e6 and 6...Ng4. While I don't like 6...e6, I think 6...Ng4 must be seriously considered. It allows ourselves to part from too much beaten paths without risking too much, since it gets played at top level. The position arising after 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Bg3 Bg7 is very interesting and unbalanced. Opening Explorer gives 6...Ng4 a rather drawish value, but that's only because of the line 7.Bc1 Nf6 8.Be3. I don't think our opponents will play that, but in case we can revert to 8...e5 avoiding the repetition |
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| Feb-03-07 | | Zebra: I also like the look of ...Bg4, at least that's my initial reaction. |
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Feb-03-07
| | TheAlchemist: Personally, I'm in favour of e5. I won't be able to post much for a few days now. I'll update my profile and hopefully be back at full speed soon. |
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Feb-03-07
| | TheAlchemist: Also, could someone perhaps review the two files I posted at the bottom of my profile in better detail? It would be helpful. Thanks! |
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| Feb-03-07 | | Zebra: I notice there seems to be a certain amount of reluctance to consider ...e6. Is this simply because it looks Scheveningenish, or are there more concrete problems with it. I don't know any theory for the English attack (assuming that's what white intends), so ultimately I am going to go with the flow and trust the people who voted for the Najdorf to select a good line. But ...e6 seems worth considering to me. |
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