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| Feb-04-07 | | Zebra: <<Zebra> favors 6...g6> Actually I have been in favour of virtually every move mentioned except the standard ...e5, though I will even go with that if the Najdorf specialists around here are adamant that it is the best. Ng4 certainly looks interesting. I haven't been able to follow the kibbitzing too much today, so probably better I don't vote. |
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Feb-04-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Plus-- if they try to steal a tempo we just exchange our Knight and we have <doubled bishops>-- I think we get compensation, and good compensation, for any answer to Ng4... |
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Feb-04-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: OK <Anand-Kasparov 1996> follows the same line I posted above from <Svidler-Topalov>: Notice how quickly Kasparov is able to mobilize a kingside attack. And when Anand locks down the kingside pawn structure, Kaspy switches to Queenside and infiltrates the overextended white Kingside, with devastating effect... |
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Feb-04-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: More on the Ng4 line...
After 9. ...Bg7
10. Be2 h5
11. Bxg4 Bxg4
OR 11. ...hxg4 |
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Feb-04-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Shirov Kasparov 1997> follows the main line posted above, and like Anand Shirov locks down the kingside pawn structure. But in this game, once the kingside is locked, Kaspy castles Kingside behind very advanced pawns!! And then whups him good... So many options available to us with Ng4... |
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| Feb-04-07 | | Marco65: <jessicafischerqueen> I couldn't imagine you might become such an advocate of 6...Ng4! I'm still in favour of that move, but... I like to be realistic. I don't think the position after the customary 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Bg3 Bg7 is in Black's favour, maybe it's = maybe with a slight White advantage as with all good openings. Were it we would see more often at top level, and White would stop playing 6.Be3. It seems that the most popular way to play it today is not as at Kasparov's time but with 10.h3 Ne5 11.Nf5 Bxf5 12.exf5 Nbc6 13.Nd5 e6 14.fxe6 fxe6 15.Ne3 O-O reaching this position:
 click for larger viewWhite has the bishop pair, and a clear dominance of light squares. On the other hand, his activity on the king side has been slowed down, especially because also White will prefer to castle kingside (Bg7 is too powerful). And Black has a central pawn majority. I'm willing to play such unbalanced position, just make sure you are as well before committing to 6...Ng4. Last note: I wouldn't rely on winning as in Svidler vs Topalov, 2005, I found in the kibitzing area a reported comment by Svidler that proves that Topalov's 15...Nf3 is unsound: <Q. His moves – 14...Qa5, 15...Nf3 – it was a novelty on the high level, but I suppose all of that was analyzed?Svidler: Let me begin with the fact I had not expected 6...Ng4. I was not ready at all. Of course, after 14...Qa5 one could play 15.Qd2. But I decided that if I do not play 15.c3, then I am a chicken roughly speaking. Of course when he played 14...Qa5, I understood what was going on, because the move is senseless without playing 15...Nf3 subsequently. I calculated till the endgame and thought I was not afraid of this kind of endgame at all. While he was thinking about 15...Nf3, I checked my calculations once more and found no mistakes. I thought that this ending was better for White although it was dangerous. No annotator argued about it. Neither did Topalov. But although White is better, it is difficult to play. This is not that kind of advantage that allows you to play almost thoughtlessly. You have to think, to do your best. And it seems I have made a wrong decision from the very beginning> I will be sleeping while the move is posted. I still vote for 6...Ng4, but with no illusion of a quick win or an easy game. It will just be very interesting! |
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Feb-04-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <MarcoI like the look of the position you posted there... Unbalanced and tough. I like it.
I'm under no illusion of an easy win= i want us to have to work very hard for a win, that's all. I'm ready to put the time in here. Ng4!! |
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Feb-04-07
 | | TheAlchemist: I posted 6...Ng4 |
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Feb-04-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Good work Captain!!
Now the battle begins... |
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| Feb-05-07 | | hitman84: We should consider 7.Bc1 as well :) |
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| Feb-05-07 | | Zebra: Good stuff, <Marco> and <Jess>. I look forward to some complicated play. |
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| Feb-05-07 | | Open Defence: Go TEAM!!! gimme an M! gimme an A! gimme a T! gimme an E! .. just make sure its them and not we!!!!!!! WHEEEEE!!!!! |
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| Feb-05-07 | | Zebra: <TheAlchemist> A small favour - could you possibly put the date when the next move is due in a different format, e.g. Tue 6th Feb (or Feb 6) 07? |
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| Feb-05-07 | | Marco65: <Zebra> Oh do you mean we don't have to wait until June 2nd? :-) |
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| Feb-05-07 | | Zebra: :) I'm not very good at keeping track of months or years. Just including the day of the week would go a long way, as I know which pubs have happy hours on Tuesdays... |
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Feb-05-07
 | | TheAlchemist: Damn crybabies :-). All right... |
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Feb-05-07
 | | TheAlchemist: How's this? |
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Feb-05-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Hitman> there's a very useful game here at CG.com where Anand plays Bc1 in our present position in a rapid time control against Grishuk. I'll find it again and maybe post a FEN showing what happens a few moves later... |
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Feb-05-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Team: all who have time, please begin investigating lines, especially from recent GM games (as <Marco> suggested) that might accrue from our present position? Let's look for games that lead to the FEN Marco most recently posted, and other recent games. I think older games are still worth having a look at, especially if in doing so refutations are found (as Marco found in one of the games I was investigating) The more we work on this the more likely we are to come out of the opening in good shape... |
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Feb-05-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Remember how long our opponents took to enter their response to our c5? To the extent that <branko> complained about it? And then <Akavall> said they had been debating up to the last minute? That means there is a bunch of MFOs who didn't want any part of an open Sicilian, which is what we managed to get. This is good news for us-- should be a morale builder, given that we all seemed enthusiastic about playing some open Sicilian line with black- Now all we have to do is deliver the tactical goods.
Lots of hard work ahead but I have a feeling we will win outright. |
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| Feb-05-07 | | brankat: As for the Posting "Format", the sample of it is still in my Profile :-) |
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| Feb-06-07 | | Marco65: <jessicafischerqueen> I like the way you push all of us while it's our opponents' turn, you will become a perfect manager :-) "Hey guys what are you doing now? going back to your personal lives? No way (whip!)" Jokes apart, for sure you'll become a very good chess player, you have a lot of enthusiasm |
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| Feb-06-07 | | Zebra: <The Alchemist> Thanks ;) <Queen Jess> Yes ma'am! I am a bit tied up this afternoon, but will look at some lines this evening. |
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| Feb-06-07 | | Zebra: According to Opening Explorer, the variation we have just played is called the Anti-English. I can think of a lot of people who would be pleased by that. |
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Feb-06-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Zebra> Ok a lot of people might be pleased by an <anti-English>... especially the Irish... But let's just rename the opening: <The Wrecking Crew>. "Don't do it Rock!! He's a wrecking Crew!!" <From Rocky II> |
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