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Jan-11-14
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Game Collection: WCC: FIDE WCC Tournament 1948 I had changed this to "championship due to" but I just now noticed an unfortunate repetition here: "Although Miguel Najdorf won at Prague, he wasn't invited to join the championship due to the new agreement.<8,9> Shortly before the tournament, Fine dropped out due to scholastic commitments.<10,11>" Should I change it back to "championship <because of>"? I'm thinking "yes" unless you have a top secret "other solution." |
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Jan-11-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <"Breezy Free" brand Timpon> It's truly a feather in your cap, considering that the rest of us currently work for <$0.0 USD> per hour. Takes awhile to add up. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | OhioChessFan: <FCC Enforcement Project: I hadn't considered LONNIE might really be <Olympic Games Urcan> until I saw Annie's post. > Are you kidding? His first post struck me as the first blow in a self advertising campaign, and subsequent events reinforced that suspicion. I don't care enough to prove it, don't know for sure, but I'd bet even money on it. <Whoever he is, I have serious reservations about this young man's attitude.> Well, the first post I didn't mind too much. This last? Childish. And the alleged motivation, that cg.c really needed to see that and might want to seriously reconsider the error of their ways now that <TWO> viable voices have mentioned them.....pure balderdash. Man, I hate even talking about it. Back to our regularly scheduled editing. |
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Jan-11-14
| | OhioChessFan: I'd let Fine drop out because of scholastic commitments. |
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Jan-11-14
| | OhioChessFan: On second thought, I think they are academic commitments. |
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Jan-11-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <OhioNoLurkoFan>
Well I agree, and very good to be back editing.
We will, of course, entertain anyone including <Mr. Lurko> if he wishes to come here and discuss the articles. I was somewhat surprised he didn't respond to the last post I made at <Karpova's> house, which was a response to several of the points he's been raising recently. I suspect he's less interested in discussing these topics with us or anyone else than he is in grandstanding his views all over the admin forum, with the primary goal to castigate Daniel. Or so it seems. A point that shouldn't be lost is that, as a good friend mentioned to me recently, chess history is at best a "tertiary" function of this website. Nothing wrong with that. But even if chess history were a "thousandthary" function, I would do exactly the same as we are currently doing: try to improve the accuracy of the data as much as we can. |
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Jan-11-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <OhioBecauseOfFan>
Game Collection: WCC: FIDE WCC Tournament 1948 Ok it's like this now:
"Although Miguel Najdorf won at Prague, he wasn't invited to join the championship due to the new agreement.<8,9> Shortly before the tournament, Fine dropped out because of academic commitments.<10,11>" |
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Jan-11-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <OhioDeepIssues>
You know, having read reams of Mighty Mike's published material, I have this nagging urge to include "according to Botvinnik" in front of anything sourced to him. You have to take all such reminiscences with a grain of salt, and try to verify what they say as much as possible. Mighty Mike was recently cited on another page as an authority on the "fact" that <Capablanca> and <Johnny Alekhine> were "close friends" in the period they first met. I haven't seen the relationship characterized that strongly in any of the Alkhine material I have. How would <Botvinnik> know? He doesn't say. It can't be a personal reminiscence because it was before his time. It could be something <Capablanca> or <Johnny> told him, or it could be something from a published Russian source. The point is it could be from anywhere and we likely will never know where. |
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Jan-11-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <Colleagues>
Well I've just "received an email" (no, really) from a friend who urged me to post this material regarding the recently vaunted <NiC Database>: <Go to the NiC database and search for games by "Adams" played in 1945. You will find that *David* Adams played against Fine, Seidman, and Steiner at the Hollywood tournament years before he was born, with an even score no less!... Seems to me an incorrect player identification is a lot more serious than getting the date of naturalized citizenship wrong, but I'm funny that way.> |
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Jan-11-14
| | OhioChessFan: < The Soviets were now members,<7> and under official FIDE aegis all parties agreed to most of the conditions proposed at Winterthur 1946, except now the tournament would be split between The Hague and Moscow and begin in spring 1948.> That "except" is a bit jarring to my ears. Need to think on it to find something a little softer. <The time control was 40 moves in 2 1/2 hours and 16 moves per hour after that.<12,13> Players were permitted 2 assistants to help analyze adjourned games.<14> First place would receive $5,000; second $3,000; third $2,000; fourth $1,500; and fifth $1,000.<13> Milan Vidmar was arbiter, assisted by Alexander Kotov.<12,15> The first 10 rounds were held in the Hague, followed by 15 rounds in Moscow.> was......were......would receive......was......were. I don't like that inconsistent verb tense construction. Maybe the simple "First place was $5000......" or something else, maybe "received", I don't know, but something in the past tense. |
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Jan-11-14
| | OhioChessFan: A quibble with my previous not quite a suggestion:
If the phrase "_________ was $5000" is ultimately used, then I think "First prize" would be a bit better fit than "First place" for the ___________, as "prize" has a more readily understood connotation of financial remuneration than "place". |
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Jan-11-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <Popular Cellist Oh-Oh Ma> Game Collection: WCC: FIDE WCC Tournament 1948 Now like this:
"First prize was $5,000; second $3,000; third $2,000; fourth $1,500; and fifth $1,000.<13>" |
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| Jan-11-14 | | Benzol: I'm wondering why Tim Harding seems to have his nose out of joint in that article of his? And what is <Lonnie Lurko>'s beef about? Instead of throwing brickbats wouldn't it be better if they came and helped to fix the mistakes? |
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Jan-11-14
| | OhioChessFan: <Benzene: And what is <Lonnie Lurko>'s beef about?> His original screed mentioned <AJ> by name. That alone says far more than could 1000 of my best words about the matter. |
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Jan-11-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Good Heavens... |
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Jan-11-14
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Benzol>
Yes, and I think a timely "Which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard" might come in handy now. |
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| Jan-11-14 | | Benzol: <His original screed mentioned <AJ> by name. That alone says far more than could 1000 of my best words about the matter.> That does go some way to explaining things but what's with Tim Harding? |
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| Jan-12-14 | | Benzol: <...a timely "Which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard" might come in handy now.> I'm having visions of the burn the Beatles records after John Lennon's "We're more popular than Jesus" statement. Don't worry Tim I'm not going to burn your books. I paid too much for them in the first place. :) |
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Jan-12-14
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Benzol> Tim Harding and Olimpiu Urcan are great chess historians. Their work has been invaluable to my private chess history studies. So has the work of Nick Pope, who I also think is a great chess historian. But on personality, people are different eh? In every crowd you get some who like to scoff from afar and others who will pitch in and help solve problems. <Nick Pope> is here on a regular basis trying to help us improve our database. User: jnpope The other two fellows aren't. |
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| Jan-12-14 | | twinlark: Therein lies the difference. Also the other two dump on Pope as well. |
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Jan-12-14
| | jessicafischerqueen: Good grief who would dump on the Pope?
Sounds well out of order.
Seriously though, one might argue that his website https://www.google.com/#q=chess+arc... is currently the hardest working man in show business. |
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| Jan-12-14 | | Boomie: <jessicafischerqueen: Good grief who would dump on the Pope?> Sounds like they're trying to play the old Rope a Pope trick. |
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Jan-12-14
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Cloudy Days and Persimmon brand Timpon> I don't want to offend any of our Catholic bretheren or sisteren, but you've reminded me of the infamous "Pope on a Rope" novelty shower soap. Hey I didn't invent it. I didn't even buy it, choosing instead to go for the "Bear in the Woods" toilet aid. My dear <Tim> your every appearance lets air into the room. I hope the Grand Piano appreciates how crap this place would be without you. |
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| Jan-12-14 | | Boomie: <Jessie>
Well, sweetie, I get a perverse pleasure in knowing that folks all over the world are smiling at our little jokes. Seems like a valuable service to me. Of course, we get paid in chuckles as well. It's win-win, baby! |
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Jan-12-14
| | OhioChessFan: <LL: Now it's entirely your privilege if you want to ignore, avoid or delete them.> Thanks for conceding to them a privilege they already had without your papal edict. |
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