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| Jul-18-06 | | BishopofBlunder: <WannaBe: <BishopofBlunder> use the link I posted in the Cafe.> The only link I can find for you in the Cafe is the one for page twenty. I want to know how to get to page 19. Not that I'm not grateful to you for getting me past it, of course. But it's a little like playing solitaire with a deck of 51 cards. |
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| Jul-18-06 | | LIFE Master AJ: I know I am late ...
# 1.) Did you ever play another Shredder vs. Rybka game? # 2.) How did you do at the National Open?
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Jul-18-06
 | | WannaBe: <BishopofBlunder> You can't 'really' get to page 19, embedded in the HTML code on page 19 is a loop back to page 18.
If you are using Internet Explorer, go to Tools->Internet Option, under the General tab, middle section, the Temporary Internet Files, click on settings, then click on View Files, search for the NINEteen.html. Copy that file, then paste it on your desktop (You can't view the source/edit that file while it's in the temporary folder). After you've pasted it on the desktop, you can open it using Notepad and view the source. The clue in the source is __nineteen__.html If you are using other browser than IE, let me know, and I'll try to find out how to view the temporarily stored internet files. |
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Jul-18-06
| | WannaBe: <LIFE Master AJ> Yes, After the first draw (with <Dionyseus>) with an earlier version 1.x of Rybka, we played another one, which Shredder lost. I also played 2 games versus <RandomVisitor>, the first game was also a draw and lost the second. Again, the first time was against version 1.x of Rybka, second time was using 2.0 (I believe) Here are the PGNs for the other 3 games:
[Event "Computer Chess"]
[Site "Chessgames.com"]
[Date "2006.06.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Shredder (WannaBe)"]
[Black "Rybka (RandomVisitor)"]
[ECO "C56"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "35"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. 0-0 Nxe4 6.Re1 d5 7. Bxd5 Qxd5
8. Nc3 Qh5 9. Nxe4 Be6 10. Bg5 Bd6 11. Nxd6+ cxd6 12. Bf4 Qd5 13. c3 Rc8
14. b3 0-0 15. Nxd4 Nxd4 Qxd4 Qxd4 17. cxd4 d5 18. Rac1 1/2-1/2 [Event "Computer Chess"]
[Site "Chessgames.com"]
[Date "2006.06.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Shredder (WannaBe)"]
[Black "Rybka (Dionyseus)"]
[ECO "B56"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "168"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bb5 Bd7 7. 0-0 g6
8. Nd5 Bg7 9. Nxf6+ Bxf6 10. Be3 0-0 11. c3 Nxd4 12. Bxd7 Qxd7 13. Bxd4 Bxd4
14. Qxd4 Qb5 15. a4 Qb3 16. Rfe1 Rfc8 17. Qd2 Rc5 18. Re3 Rd8 19. Rh3 h5
20.Re3 Rdc8 21. f4 Rc4 22.f5 Rxa4 23.Rf1 Kg7 24. e5 Qb6 25. f6+ exf6
26. exf6+ Kh7 27. Kh1 d5 28. Re7 Rf8 29. Re5 Qa6 30. Qd1 Kg8 31. Qc1 Rd8
32. Kg1 Qc6 33. Qh6 Qc5+ 34. Kh1 Qf8 35. Qe3 a6 36. Qd2 Rd6 37. b4 d4
38. cxd4 Qd8 39. Rfe1 Kh7 40. Qc2 Rxb4 41. Rxh5+ Kg8 42. Rh6 Rxf6 43. Qc3 Kg7
44. Qh3 Qg8 45.Rh4 Rb5 46. Qe3 Re6 47. Qh6+ Kf6 48. Rf4+ Ke7 49. Rfe4 Rxe4
50. Rxe4+ Kd7 51. Re1 f5 52. Rc1 Rd5 53. Qe3 Rd6 54. Qe5 Qf7 55. Re1 Qd5
56. Qg7+ Kc6 57. Rb1 b6 58. Rc1+ Kb5 59. Rb1+ Ka4 60. Qa7 b5 61. Rd1 Re6
62.Ra1+ Kb3 63. Qc7 Re2 64. Qg3+ Kc2 65.Rg1 Kb2 66.Qd3 Rc2 67. Qd1 f4
68. Qb1+ Kc3 69. Qa1+ Kc4 70. Qf1+ Kb4 71. Qxf4 g5 72. Rb1+ Ka4 73. Qf1 Ka5
74. Ra1+ Ra2 75. Rd1 g4 76. Qe1+ b4 77. Qg3 b3 78. Qxg4 Rc2 79. Qg6 Kb4
80. Qb6+ Qb5 81. Qd6+ Ka4 82. Qg6 Qc6 83. Qxc6+ Rxc6 84. d5 Rc2 0-1 [Event "Computer Chess"]
[Site "Chessgames.com"]
[Date "2006.06.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Black "Shredder (WannaBe)"]
[White "Rybka (RandomVisitor)"]
[ECO "C39"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "119"]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. h4 g4 5. Ne5 d6 6. Nxg4 Be7 7. d4 Bxh4+
8. Nf2 Nc6 9. Bxf4 Bxf2+ 10. Kxf2 Qf6 11. g3 Nxd4 12. Nc3 Be6 13. Nd5 Bxd5
14. exd5 0-0-0 15. Bd3 h5 16. c3 Ne7 17. Rxh5 Kb8 18. Bh7 Ndf5 19. Qg4 Nxg3
20. Qxg3 Nxd5 21. Rf5 Qe7 22. Rxd5 Rxh7 23. Re1 Qd7 24. Qd3 Rg7 25. Rg5 Rxg5
26. Bxg5 Rh8 27. Bf4 a6 28. Re4 Rg8 29. b3 f5 30. Re3 Qc6 31. Rf3 Qd7
32. Be3 Qg7 33. Ke2 Re8 34.Kd2 Qg2+ 35.Rf2 Qh1 36.Qxf5 Qa1 37.Qc2 Rg8
38. Kd3 Qh1 39. Qc1 Qh4 40.Kd2 Re8 41. Qf1 Qe4 42. Re2 Qd5 43. Kc2 b6
44. Bd2 Rxe2 45. Qxe2 Kb7 46. Qd3 Qh1 47.a4 Qc6 48. Qf5 b5 49.axb5 axb5
50. Kd3 Kb8 51. Be3 Qe8 52.Bg5 Qc6 53. Bd2 Kb7 54. Qe4 d5 55. Qe5 Qd7
56. Kd4 Kb6 57. Qxd5 c5+ 58. Ke4 Qh7+ 59. Qf5 Qh4+ 60. Ke5 1-0 2) I resigned after move 28 versus Susan Polgar in the Simul. I won-lost-lost-won-lost-won (opponent no show) during the actual tournament, and was one of the 5 upset prize winner. |
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| Jul-18-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <WannaBe> You can violate rule #2 in your own forum if you like. :) |
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Jul-18-06
| | WannaBe: <EmperorAtahualpa> LOL!!! |
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| Jul-18-06 | | JoeWms: <WannaBe> I posted from here to LoFarkas and Crotone, not Premiums. <Just curious:
If I post a message from my chessforum to a user who is not yet a Premium member, how does it get delivered? (If it gets delivered.) Can't resist this line: If you don't get this message, please let me know.> Should I expect nil?
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| Jul-19-06 | | brankat: <WannaBe> I've just completed posting comments/impressions in my forum regarding games vs Shredder. Another thing. I heard a few days ago that, apparently, there was an "invasion" of Blue Whales in Southern Cal., Long Beach area some 2-3 weeks ago. That they assembled there in unusually large numbers and were in some kind of feeding frenzy. Would You happen to know anything about this, is it true? Blue Whales are the largest animals that ever lived on Earth, could reach over a 100 feet in length and weigh up to 160 tons. Only a few years ago they were feared to be at the brink of extinction(just like about everybody else). Now the number is estimated to be at about 1,500. |
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| Jul-19-06 | | chessmoron: <Shredder vs. Rybka> Although Shredder lost 1-3 against Rybka (Dionyesus/RV combined), how can we see a lost from Shredder at a real tournaments. |
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| Jul-19-06 | | notsodeepthought: <Isolani: Oh there were so many good one hit wonders in the early to mid 80's. Are you going to cover Der Kommissar or Rock Me Amadeus next?> Those were the days... http://www.onehitwondercentral.com/.... |
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| Jul-19-06 | | YouRang: <WannaBe>, a while back, you posted (in my forum) <WannaBe: <YouRang> Are you pretty good with templates within c++?> I wasn't much help, but recently <jahhaj> posted this: <jahhaj: <templates in C++> I know more about those than I do about chess.> ...which makes me suspect that <jahhaj> is great with templates. Perhaps he would be willing to assist you with templates (if indeed you seek assistance). :-) |
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| Jul-20-06 | | jahhaj: <C++ templates> Sure, fire away. |
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Jul-20-06
| | WannaBe: <jahhaj>
Here is a portion of c++ code:
template <int piw1, int piw2, int pib1> class T32
{
public: static FuncA
some code here....
public: static FuncB
some code here...
}
// end of template
When I see it being called, I see T32<var1, var2, var3>::FuncA I believe, this means, calling FuncA inside of template T32 only with the parameters of var1, var2, and var3. This call does not involve FuncB at all, even though they are both inside the same template. Is my understanding correct? Why would/what are the advantages/disadvantages of programming with template? Is it really better than writing 2 separate functions? or adding an extra variable to decide which section you want the code to execute? Thank you very much. |
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| Jul-20-06 | | jahhaj: <WannaBe> First to correct one possible wrong impression. Although you say var1, var2, var3, these cannot be variables in this code, they must be compile time constants. Because the template is instantiated by the compiler it must be able to work out the values of var1 etc. at compile time. You are correct in you first question. FuncB is not involved at all, in fact its not even compiled. For instance this is a legal program template <int X> struct T {
static void funcA()
int a[X+1];
static void funcB()
int b[X];
}
; int main()
T<0>::funcA();
(some of this code is screwed up, cg.com does funny things to curly backets, hopefully it is still comprehensible) If writing T<0>::funcA(); meant that T<0>::funcB() was compiled you would get an error (because of the zero length array b), but template members are only compiled if they are used, not when they are declared (this is a simplification, but good enough). I can't say what the advantage might be in this case without seeing more code, but I would guess that it is related to what I said above. The author of that code only wants one of the two functions to be compiled, they are making a choice at compile time which function to use. If you wrote two seperate functions or if you had a variable to decide you would inevitably being making that choice at run time. Hope this helps.
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| Jul-20-06 | | jahhaj: <two seperate functions> I meant two non-template functions. |
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Jul-20-06
| | WannaBe: <jahhaj> Thank you very much. I just wanted to confirm what I have thought I understood before I proceed with a massive portion of converting C++ code to another language. =) |
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| Jul-21-06 | | brankat: <WannaBe> I'm curious. What is rule #2? If You can't post it here, You have my e-mail address. I think I have an idea of what it may be, but I'm not sure. And I WAAAAAAANNA be sure! |
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| Jul-21-06 | | jahhaj: <another language> Let me guess.... Java! Good luck, no other language that I'm aware of has templates like C++. |
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Jul-21-06
| | WannaBe: <jahhaj> no, Perl. |
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| Jul-23-06 | | LIFE Master AJ: CG-dot-com POSTING GUIDELINES:
# 1.) No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language. # 2.) No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts. # 3.) No personal attacks against other users.
# 4.) Nothing in violation of United States law.
PS Someone posted, "You can violate rule #2 in your own forum ..."
obviously, this was a joke. I doubt if CG cares if you "spam" your own forum. <Wannabe> Thanks for the reply. Other than an upset prize, did you win money? Did you gain rating points? (Just curious.) Have a good weekend. |
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Jul-23-06
 | | cu8sfan: <I doubt if CG cares if you "spam" your own forum.> Maybe spamming is not allowed but I think there's nothing against duplicating posts in your own forum. |
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Jul-23-06
| | WannaBe: The whole rule number 2 started out as a joke, <EmperorAtahulapa> was leaving to go to Hungary, and told us to treat his forum as our own. So I promptly posted rule #2 in his forum 3 times. He deletd them, and posted his comment here. So this may have caused some confusion. =) <LIFE Master AJ> No, I did not win any prize money. =( I did gain 200+ points. =) |
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| Jul-23-06 | | brankat: <WannaBe> It has been a little over a month now since the Vegas tourney. Do You have any plans for another tournament in the near future? |
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Jul-23-06
| | WannaBe: <brankat> STOP PRESSURING ME!!!!! just kidding. I curently have no plan to compete in ANY tournament in california. Besides being United States Chess Federation member, I must be in Southern California Chess Federation member. The money (14 bucks extra a year, but you get 4 issues of 'Rank and File'. Wooooo woooo!!!) is really not that a big deal to me, the idea, however, is ridiculous. <DrDum> and I have had discussion upon this, I like to travel, and we both think to travel to a different state for tournament is a great idea. I currently, or for any near future, do not foresee any tournament in California. Out of state, now, anything goes/open game. =) My current debate is to whether to renewal my membership for just one year, or do a sustaining for 10 years; then it becomes life membership, or just pay the whole sum and get the life membership. |
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| Jul-23-06 | | brankat: <WannaBe> You certainly enjoyed the whole Vegas experience and would equally enjoy travelling to other states. If You expect to keep on playing Chess, and if You can afford it, then it is usually best to get a long term membership (in this case, lifetime). It is cheaper, plus You don't have to deal with it every year. I believe, the system is quite similar in Canada, I'll have to check it out. |
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