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<Jer 20:10-13

Jeremiah said:

"I hear the whisperings of many:
'Terror on every side!
Denounce!
Let us denounce him!'
All those who were my friends are on the watch for any misstep of mine.

Perhaps he'll be trapped; then we can prevail, and take our vengeance on him.

But the LORD is with me, like a mighty champion: my persecutors will stumble, they will not triumph.

In their failure, they will be put to utter shame, to lasting, unforgettable confusion.

O LORD of hosts, you who test the just, who probe mind and heart, let me witness the vengeance you take on them, for to you, I have entrusted my cause.

Sing to the LORD,
praise the LORD,
for he has rescued the life of the poor
from the power of the wicked!">

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<1 Corinthians 13

13 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. 13 And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.>

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<The Promise of the Lord's Coming

The Second Letter of Peter

Chapter 3

1 This is now, beloved, the second letter I am writing to you; in them I am trying to arouse your sincere intention by reminding you

2 that you should remember the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets, and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken through your apostles.

3 First of all you must understand this, that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and indulging their own lusts

4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since our ancestors died, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation!?

5 They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago and an earth was formed out of water and by means of water,

6 through which the world of that time was deluged with water and perished.

7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been reserved for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the godless.

8 But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like one day.

9 The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some think of slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and everything that is done on it will be disclosed.

11 Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, what sort of persons ought you to be in leading lives of holiness and godliness,

12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set ablaze and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire?

13 But, in accordance with his promise, we wait for new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness is at home.

Final Exhortation and Doxology

14 Therefore, beloved, while you are waiting for these things, strive to be found by him at peace, without spot or blemish;

15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,

16 speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.

17 You therefore beloved, since you are forewarned, beware that you are not carried away with the error of the lawless and lose your own stability.

18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.

Amen.>

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<Psalm 23

The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.>

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Aug-14-08  just a kid: I say if 1.d4 just reply 1...d5.Some how if 1.e4 I say we go Carlsen and play 1...Nf6!
Aug-15-08
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  Open Defence: < truefriends > nice avtaar
Aug-15-08  truefriends: < kb2ct: <truefriends:>

Don't sell Zsoydd short. He had a 3100 rating on Kingcrusher's web site. His database is immense.

:0)>

The difference between a database and an openingbook is the fact that in the OB moves have fixed evals. The Rybka3 OB (by Jeroen Noomen) is checked by Rybka 3, Freestyle OB's and SuperGM OTB chess. Don't know if <Zsoydd> database has evals and i am sure he has not checked all of them with Rybka3 (he can't do in 2 weeks what JN took 6,5 month ;-)).

Aug-15-08  kb2ct: <truefriends:>

We have both.

:0)

Aug-15-08  zsoydd: ..

Hi <truefriends>,

my 8 Mio games DB (almost no doubles) contains nearly all OTB, corr, engine and freestyle games ever played, and available from any public or commercial source - of course I don't have games from closed chess playing systems. The DB even contains games that GMs have played in their dreams, and games of player 'zsoyd' which are quite rare in other game collections. The highlight is of course that I regularly collect from 8 different corr chess orgs and servers.

With this base I could create opening books of any desired depth, variety, quality and precision.

But all this is worthless in my eyes, as I do not belive in any opening theory that I have not analyzed in depth on my own. Only with very accurate opening preparation I was able to win most of my games without any loss.

For the opening lines I play, I knew most of the advertised novelities in the new Noomen book before they were published. Those I did not knew are in sidelines where one of the sides has in my opinion already made an inferior move - no need to waste any time with these.

Nowadays I'm still deviating very often from the Rybka2 book suggestions (i.e I choose the red marked moves!) and still win most of my games.

Best regards,
zsoyd

Aug-15-08  Boomie: Boomie: Opening books are helpful but not the final word. Openings are always evolving. The Team will consider moves from the books and probably play within some book line for a time. The OBs don't lessen our workload however. Candidate moves still have to be vetted through our filter. As we saw last game with 8. Qb3, the Team sometimes opts for interesting sidelines. OBs are just a rich source of candidate moves. They aren't scripts that must be followed.
Aug-15-08  kb2ct: Rybka 3 has a lot of new features.

It seems the programmers realize its main use is CC.

:0)

Aug-16-08  izimbra: Against 1.e4, I think we should look hard at <1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf3 4. dxc5 Qa5+>

It's sound, scores well in GM play, and probably takes Nickel out of his prep.

Aug-16-08  kwid: Aug-16-08 <izimbra: Against 1.e4,>

If I were to play the world team, my line against the Naydorf would be Bb5 and follow Kasparov's game against the World.
Without the WCB's white can setup a pawn structure on the white squares and thus safely reaches a draw in the endgame phase.

This is my reason why I prefer Nc6 instead of d6. I know white has also a few simple draw lines. But these lines require a good theoretical knowledge and have a long horizon.
Because they are seldom played they remain hidden, but are used by strong players to obtain a draw if needed.

The question remains, will he be satisfied with a draw like I would having the white side?

Aug-16-08  kwid: Aug-16-08 < izimbra > as to your suggestion not play cxd4
we may see transpositional lines like :

1. Nf3 c5 2. e4 Nf6 3. Nc3 d6 4. d4 Qa5


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5. Bb5+ Bd7 6. Bxd7+

(6. Qe2 cxd4 7. Nxd4 Nc6 8. Nb3 Qd8 9. Bg5 h6 10. Be3 a6 11. Bxc6 Bxc6 12. f3 e6 13. O-O-O Be7 14. h4 b5)

6... Nbxd7 7. O-O g6 8. dxc5 Nxc5 9. a3 Na4 10. Nxa4 Qxa4 11. b3 Qa6 12. e5 dxe5 13. Nxe5 Bg7 14. Bb2 (14. Qf3 O-O) 14... O-O 15. Qf3 Rac8 16. c4 b5 17. Rad1 bxc4 18. Nxc4 Qc6 19. Qxc6 Rxc6 20. f3 Rfc8 21. Rfe1 e6 22. Bxf6 Bxf6 23. Rd7

Aug-16-08  izimbra: <kwid: If I were to play the world team, my line against the Naydorf would be Bb5 and follow Kasparov's game against the World. Without the WCB's white can setup a pawn structure on the white squares and thus safely reaches a draw in the endgame phase.

This is my reason why I prefer Nc6 instead of d6. I know white has also a few simple draw lines. But these lines require a good theoretical knowledge and have a long horizon. Because they are seldom played they remain hidden, but are used by strong players to obtain a draw if needed.

The question remains, will he be satisfied with a draw like I would having the white side?>

I think of the game with Nickel as the second game of a (at least) two game match. The World won the first game, so I'm not giving much thought to picking openings that avoid giving forced draw lines to white.

Subjectively, I believe we maximize our scoring chances by not worrying about Nickel trying to force a draw early in the game as white. He will probably have Rybka 3 and not be worried about trying to force a draw. If he didn't want to try for a win, he probably wouldn't have agreed to the second game and more or less lobbied for it.

Aug-16-08  izimbra: <kwid: < izimbra > as to your suggestion not play cxd4 we may see transpositional lines like :

1. Nf3 c5 2. e4 Nf6 3. Nc3 d6 4. d4 Qa5 >

If he starts with Nf3, I'd tend to think he really wants to play a d4 game that avoids the more tactical Slav family games and maybe plans Bg2 soon, so I'd play against that with 1...d5.

Aug-16-08  isemeria: <izimbra: I think of the game with Nickel as the second game of a (at least) two game match. The World won the first game, so I'm not giving much thought to picking openings that avoid giving forced draw lines to white.

Subjectively, I believe we maximize our scoring chances by not worrying about Nickel trying to force a draw early in the game as white...>

I see the situation pretty much the same way. A draw would mean a 1,5-0,5 win for us in the mini-match.

Aug-16-08  isemeria: <izimbra: Against 1.e4, I think we should look hard at <1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf3 4. dxc5 Qa5+> It's sound, scores well in GM play, and probably takes Nickel out of his prep.>

<3...Nf6> doesn't force the devation from the mainline. White is not obliged to play <4. dxc5>. If he chooses <4. Nc3>, then Black's best option is to return to the usual Open Sicilian with <4...cxd4>. See for example: Opening Explorer

When the game starts there will be a lot of posts arguing that "we must deviate from the mainline as soon as possible before GMAN plays a stunning novelty he has prepared". I disagree with this kind of thinking. It's much easier for us to find <good> sidelines or novelties later in the opening, say, after 10 moves depending on the variation. And if there will be a TN by GMAN, then we simply continue to play chess. Either White or Black has to play a new move at some point.

Aug-16-08  izimbra: <isemeria: <izimbra: Against 1.e4, I think we should look hard at <1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf3 4. dxc5 Qa5+> It's sound, scores well in GM play, and probably takes Nickel out of his prep.>

<2...Nf6> doesn't force the devation from the mainline. White is not obliged to play <4. dxc5>. If he chooses <4. Nc3>, then Black's best option is to return to the usual Open Sicilian with <4...cxd4>. See for example: Opening Explorer

When the game starts there will be a lot of posts arguing that "we must deviate from the mainline as soon as possible before GMAN plays a stunning novelty he has prepared". I disagree with this kind of thinking. It's much easier for us to find <good> sidelines or novelties later in the opening, say, after 10 moves depending on the variation. And if there will be a TN by GMAN, then we simply continue to play chess. Either White or Black has to play a new move at some point.>

<isemeria> I agree with everything you write above, but still recommend 3...Nf3 Sicilian for black. It's well tested, not a novelty, and black gets interesting games with good chances in the common lines after 4. Nc3. If this approach has a chance to take Nickel out of his preferred e4 lines then that is a chance to accumulate a small advantage. Accumulation of small advantages leads to wins.

Aug-16-08  isemeria: What do people think about the English Attack of the Najdorf with 6...e5?

<1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 O-O 10. O-O-O>


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Aug-16-08  kwid: Aug-16-08
< chancho: >

If he plays for a win, he will select opening lines which have a proven record ie keep a slight advantage well into the middle game.

It may well be impossible to gain the upper hand for black in such positions. We can not expect to overcome whites edge in development and center control.

Oh yes, I did not suggest that he will play Nf3 in his first move, the position shown was a transposition from Nf6 instead of the normally played cxd4 which is the main reason for choosing sizilien.

I agree to stay with the main lines as long as possible. Let him deviate from them as he quite often does.

I belief that he does not have adequate positional understanding to rewrite theory. He will be guided by Rybka3 and a prepared opening book which can be expected to be about his present ELO rating.

If he wants to perform above his average he is well advised to stay with the current theory.

Aug-16-08  zsoydd: .

ccGM Nickel vs team

1.e4 c5 -> list
1.d4 Nf6 -> list
1.Nf3 d5 -> list
1.c4 e5 -> list
1.g3 d5 -> list
1.b3 d5 -> list
1.b4 c6 -> list

other first moves:
ccGM Nickel -> lost

Aug-16-08  zsoydd: .

if the team believes we're better then ccGM Nickel:

play solid with Black, until the position is nearly equal and from move 12 on try to raise the stake

avoid early queen exchange - all such opening lines lead to a slightly better endgame for White

avoid tunnel lines, where one of the sides needs to play a short sequence of nearly forced moves (according to opening theory / resp. engine books)

go into lines where each side has many nearly equally successful moves according to theory (i.e. maximize the search space - we have the advantage of superior hardware power!)

avoid any sharp tactics in the opening - most such lines hoover away many light pieces and lead to very drawish middle games or endgames

Aug-16-08  Red October: against 1.Nf3 I suggest the double fianchetto, it seems to lead to positions where Black's formation can have a significant bite later on in the game and avoids many exchanges
Aug-16-08  izimbra: <kwid> you lost me somewhere. The line with Qa5+ by black in only played in response to dxc5. As I mentioned above I wouldn't even play a transposition in response to 1.Nf3. So if you were not talking about a transposition starting with 1.Nf3, I can't pin down the relevant part of what you were discussing.

Aug-16-08  Boomie: GMAN may have motives other than winning. In fact, he probably doesn't think he has a chance to win or draw for that matter. He may just want to try out a new idea in an opening to see how it gets destroyed by the Team. The point here is when guessing what opening he might play, consider that he may have motives other than the result.
Aug-17-08  kb2ct:

The opening is the most difficult phase for team play.

Many OTB openings aren't adequate for CC. Everyone has prejudices and they get expressed most commonly in the first 8 moves. For example, the Sicilian Dragon doesn't work fo CC.

When playing black, it is very difficult to both equalize and keep winning chances alive.

:0)

Aug-17-08  Red October: <chancho> some opening ideas are updated in the User: Open Defence

and

User: Red October

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Aug-17-08  isemeria: Registration for GMAN2 is open. I think the discussion should take place there from now on.

<chancho>, perhaps you could update your forum header with a link to the game page: Chessgames Challenge: A Nickel vs The World, 2008

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