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May-25-18  Sokrates: A question for CG:

Is it possible by means of this site to send a private message to a forum member?

I visit another site/forum, where this feature is enabled and very often used btw.

Thanks in advance.

May-25-18  morfishine: Dear <Tabanus> You are such a treasure here at <CG>, yet your avatar is a dirty old, hungry & aggressive-looking fly

Of course, you may do as you please, but have you at least considered some other avatar?

May-25-18  WinKing: <morfishine: Dear <Tabanus> You are such a treasure here at <CG>, yet your avatar is a dirty old, hungry & aggressive-looking fly>

He explained that once awhile back <morf>. I think <Tabs> is an Entomologist & that's why he chose it. Better let him tell you for sure though. I kind of like the Fly.

May-26-18
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  Penguincw: < morfishine: Dear <Tabanus> You are such a treasure here at <CG>, yet your avatar is a dirty old, hungry & aggressive-looking fly

Of course, you may do as you please, but have you at least considered some other avatar? >

Have you ever looked up "Tabanus"? It's perfect (well close enough). I always love members whose avatars match their usernames. ;)

May-26-18
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  Tabanus: Thanks guys. I'm working with zoological museum collections (clegs/ horseflies at the time I registered here). Right now it's snails and mussels. It's a routine job for me now, and part of it is to identify old zoologists and collectors. My effort here in CG is a kind of prolongation of this routine, so my style can be rather hard or mechanical/robotic. It will probably be like this until I retire from work in 3-4 years.

<Penguincw> Thanks for your posts at the beginning of events! I have used them many times as a starter.

May-26-18
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  Tabanus: If only I could write in Norwegian. Even if my English has improved a little over the years. Btw, I'll also say this now:

CG's technical miracle works fine in every way, except one: the archiving of events. The events are left behind in a sad state, because CG has only 3,5 (?) employees to take care of game submissions, correction slips, etc. etc. Someone in CG should be able to do this with joy - please hire a dedicated archivist! If you can afford. It may even pay off.

May-26-18  morfishine: Hello <Winking> I was trying to be funny for the most part regarding <Tabanus> and his avatar. I was aware he is a noted Biologist (per his bio)
May-26-18
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  Tabanus: Biologist yes, but noted? Mostly here I'm afraid :)

<CG> Does the voting work? There's a collection with 6 YES (and two with 5) but it's still not in TI.

May-26-18
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  Chessical: <Chessgames.com> The collection submission process is broken.
May-26-18
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  chessgames.com: < There's a collection with 6 YES (and two with 5) but it's still not in TI.> This is very confusing; I'll look into it and try to figure out what the issue is.
May-26-18
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  chessgames.com: OK, that was some anomaly that had to do with the fact that there was already kibitzing on the page of one the tournaments that was being voted-in.

Once I deleted the kibitzes it pushed them all through:

<Congratulations, a new tournament has been created! Review here: Dortmund Sparkassen (2000)

Congratulations, a new tournament has been created! Review here: Linares (2001)

Congratulations, a new tournament has been created! Review here: Linares (2002)>

Sorry about that, I'll just have to remember this in case the situation crops up again.

May-27-18
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  Tabanus: <CG> Thanks for the fix.

I forgot about the old kibitzing. I can't remember what it was, but suppose some of it should have been copied over to the new tournaments.

May-27-18
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  chessgames.com: It was nothing of great importance; mostly people saying that the tournament was a cluster of multiple events.
May-27-18
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  chessgames.com: <RookHook: Is there a way for me to update missing data in the database? Like missing Elo for the players?>

There is, what we call "Chessgames Editors".

You see, some members of the site, like Tabanus above, are members of a core group of volunteers who go around making tiny fixes (sometimes major fixes) to erroneous data. They also compose biographies / tournament write-ups for players and tournament pages.

The requirements to become an editor is (1) you have to ask us politely via email, and (2) you have to read Chessgames Editor Guide.

You don't have to work tirelessly like it's a second job (although some people do) — you can do as much or as little as you're comfortable with. Some people specialize in various aspects. We have grammarians, historians, fact-checkers, experts on old periodicals, and more.

Having said all that, one detail that CG Editors have no way to edit is our rating data. To do that, you submit a correction slip, and somebody here will make the correction. In principle this should not be needed for current players as we import the data from FIDE.

May-27-18
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  chessgames.com: <Sokrates: A question for CG: Is it possible by means of this site to send a private message to a forum member? I visit another site/forum, where this feature is enabled and very often used btw.>

This topic has been brought up several times. I personally am in favor of it, because it's simply a core feature of most communities. Nevertheless, the few times it was brought up on this forum, the majority of users spoke out against it.

Not to put words in anybody's mouth, the main objection were: 1. discussion that should take place in the open will be hidden in the personal-message system, 2. trolls/dissidents will abuse the feature by harassing and taunting other members, opening up an entirely new type of infraction, 3. sooner or later spammers will figure out how to use it.

In spite of those potential problems, I think it's not particularly a controversial feature, and as you said, it works well on other sites. I have no problems with it, but it's slightly sophisticated of a feature, so I don't want to do the work it if it is destined to be shunned.

May-27-18  Big Pawn: <In spite of those potential problems, I think it's not particularly a controversial feature, and as you said, it works well on other sites. I have no problems with it, but it's slightly sophisticated of a feature, so I don't want to do the work it if it is destined to be shunned.>

Ignored users wouldn't be able to send a PM to whoever is ignoring them. That could solve one problem. As for the other objections, it's weird. This is a regular part of the entire internet. I can't think of another site like this that doesn't have the PM feature.

I think the two or three people that found a way to have a problem with this can get over it.

May-27-18
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  Penguincw: < Sokrates: A question for CG: Is it possible by means of this site to send a private message to a forum member? I visit another site/forum, where this feature is enabled and very often used btw. >

I know it wasn't directed to me, but if you do wish to contact someone privately (and for good intents), this is what one member did to me once:

They, using their email decided to email <cg> and ask that their message be forwarded toward my email (they also included their email in the message). They did that, I responded to their email, and then it took off from there.

An alternate way is to simply post your email (or Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and ask that the person you want to PM to send you messages toward that account.

The obvious flaw is that anyone can secretly do it, and you won't be able to tell who's who.

The <cg> method works, but I'd hate to force the admins to do this extra, unnecessary work, which would probably lead to more consequences. :)

May-27-18  zanzibar: <Penguincw>, <Sokrates> - ChessTempo has implemented a private messaging system for individual users, I believe.
May-28-18
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  MissScarlett: PM to <Sargon> - where the feck are you?
May-29-18
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  Phony Benoni: Is today's pun, for the game Hromadka vs A Vaits, 1912, supposed to be <Hurry Up and Vai>" instead of <Hurry Up and Wait>?
May-29-18
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  chessgames.com: No, we just ran the pun as it was submitted. We considered briefly changing it to "Hurry up and Vaits" so it can be claimed to actually be a pun, but decided to just let it be.

I only know realized that the player Vait can be merged with Vaits. I'm not sure which spelling is preferred.

May-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  moronovich: We will vait and see.
May-29-18  Dr Winston OBoogie: All the margins are off in the cafe, I can only imagine who's responsible.
May-29-18  Sokrates: My sincere thanks to Chessgames, Penguincw, and zanzibar for your constructive responses.

The pm system at timezone.com works perfectly and without the risks sketched by the CG responder. Have never heard of any violation of that system. I fully understand the reservations, but I think it can be done, albeit not easily.

I hope you CG gentlemen will find a way to do it - I reckon you agree with me that it would be a great thing for CG if it could be implemented safely.

Thanks again for the good responses. Much appreciated.

May-29-18
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  chessgames.com: Like I said, I've always been in favor of personal messaging systems. They are a staple of online communities.

And yes, I've played go-between on a few occasions, but I don't always like it. It puts me in an uncomfortable position when, for example, somebody has a business proposition for a famous GM. I pass the emails on as a professional courtesy, but I can't help thinking that many of these people are cranks.

I actually have a half-developed system for PMs within Chessgames written years ago. I should review the code and see how much work it would take it getting working. But has the sentiment truly changed?

Let me ask this: Is anybody still opposed to PMs? If so, why?

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